[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
Peter Donahue
pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
Fri Jul 15 20:03:47 UTC 2011
Hello Mike and everyone,
Try getting around that place with 50 pounds of professional recording
equipment in toe for three days. You're bound to work up a sweat. I know
because it happened. I sure drank lots of water while I was there but feel
glad I was able to preserve some of the knowledge shared at this year's
national convention for others to learn from.
Peter Donahue
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
I thought the Shingle Creek had a great layout. Besides, we're all supposed
to get more exercise, aren't we?
Mike
On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:19, Jessica <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Definitely a better choice going with the Rosen center. Sure the hotel
> isn't massively big, but it definitely has a much better layout.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:56 AM, "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> The next convention in Orlando will be at the Rosen Center Hotel and it
>> will be closer to I-Drive and there is lots of businesses around it there
>> which is with in walking distance.
>> We, here in the Florida Affiliate, are listening and we will try to be
>> your eyes and ears leading up to the next convention.
>> As for WIFI and Internet connections, we will let the Rosen Hotel know
>> and as we have 2 years to work on it, who knows what will happen?
>> Remember, this is a service that most other people must pay for. Why
>> should we get it free if they don't?
>> It would be nice, but don't count on it.
>> I had no trouble with cell phone connections anywhere in the hotel and I
>> use Verizon.
>> Consider this. Most buildings in Florida are of CBS and reinforced steel
>> construction, they are dense and this can block cell phone signals to a
>> degree depending upon where you are at. I have that problem even in my
>> own house and can just move 5 feet, either way and I get a signal again.
>> WIFI must stand for, "When I Feel Inclined."
>>
>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica"
>> <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: <bundy at pobox.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>>
>>> I agree that wifi was pretty sparse in that area. An interesting point
>>> though is this. Every convention I have been to the hotels weren't close
>>> to much. When I stayed at the Rosen center I was closer to a lot more
>>> stuff, so it strikes me odd why they couldn't have it thre instead.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, bundy at pobox.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> M5
>>>>
>>>> -original message-
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 07/13/2011 1:47 pm
>>>>
>>>> It was Starbucks coffee, not Starbucks storefront. And yes, I
>>>> stumbled the whole grounds looking for something. Nothing to be had
>>>> without cracking one patron’s MyFi that was using WEP encryption.
>>>>
>>>> When I have some employment, I’ve got to give one of those things
>>>> serious consideration.
>>>>
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 01:21:27PM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you actually check out that the Starbucks in the hotel did not
>>>>> have the AT&T WIFI? It's certainly possible that their contract with
>>>>> AT&T is void in a hotel like the one in Orlando. Still I'd of checked
>>>>> there before paying the $9.95 hotel rate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:22 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, from the hotel, the nearest thing to the main hotel was a
>>>>> Publix grocery store, and it was about 3/4 of a mile away. Closer to
>>>>> the Rosen Centre was a Walgreens (no WiFi) and a Denny’s (no WiFi),
>>>>> and across another street was a Red Lobster (would have had no WiFi),
>>>>> and a McDonald’s (probably had WiFi, didn’t go there).
>>>>>
>>>>> The Starbucks coffee was had in the hotel, and as I’ve said, no WiFi,
>>>>> unless you paid $10 a day, and then it only worked in the hotel lobby
>>>>> whose distance from the meeting rooms was again half a mile.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to understand, the hotel was MASSIVE. It made Dallas look
>>>>> small by comparison.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 06:57:56AM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>>> I do not have much sympathy over the 9.95 per day hotel internet.
>>>>>> These places use the extras to generate a huge part of their revenue.
>>>>>> Many have stated there were many businesses near the main hotel. Why
>>>>>> not locate a Starbucks or McDonalds or one of the growing number of
>>>>>> businesses that provide free or low-cost WIFI for its customers? I
>>>>>> would not expect people to go off during sessions. However sessions
>>>>>> generally start at 9:00 A.M. always end around 5:00 P.M. Which
>>>>>> leaves sometime to care for checking the bank balance or reading
>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a different issue for people who are working. I've been pulled
>>>>>> out of a session once or twice and asked to accomplish a task during
>>>>>> a presentation I wanted to hear. An internet connection would have
>>>>>> been nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:22 AM
>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $10 per day, with a half-mile hike from the meeting rooms to the
>>>>>> nearest place it could be used. Wifi in hotel lobby, ethernet in
>>>>>> your room. If you just needed to arrange a meeting, you had to walk
>>>>>> all that way and hope that the person at the other end had a way of
>>>>>> receiving the message. Not everyone did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You couldn’t call if one or both parties were on certain cellphone
>>>>>> carriers, because one or both of you were unlikely to have service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And more than one person at convention was discussing the need to
>>>>>> connect to the Internet to monitor their bank account or similar (I
>>>>>> can’t recommend being dependent on that, however.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I personally had a package delivered while I was away that I wasn’t
>>>>>> sure actually got delivered until I got home. I’m glad my neighbor
>>>>>> was able to sign for it, because my apartment manager was out last
>>>>>> week while I was in Orlando.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There would have been a lot more coverage of convention on sites like
>>>>>> Twitter and Facebook, including drawing attention to the sub-minimum
>>>>>> wage stuff if people could have accessed those services. In 2009
>>>>>> there was an attempt to organize a Tweet-up which half the twitter
>>>>>> users at convention didn’t know about because they didn’t have
>>>>>> access to Twitter. If there was one in 2011, I never heard about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those of us working during session outside of the session hall would
>>>>>> have loved to have access to the stream. We tried, of course, but it
>>>>>> didn’t work either because of poor cellular reception, the issues
>>>>>> with the stream, or both.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The big sponsor for the convention this year was eBay. It would’ve
>>>>>> been a lot easier in the eBay sessions (aside from the first one) if
>>>>>> people could’ve actually gotten on eBay to see and try the things
>>>>>> suggested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Internet is part of how people do business in the modern world.
>>>>>> It’s an even bigger part of how the average younger blind person does
>>>>>> business. Not having it available for eight days hobbled those of us
>>>>>> who could have done a lot more if we’d had it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:44:04PM -0400, d m gina wrote:
>>>>>>> yes it is nice to check email though when you would wish.
>>>>>>> What was the cost to use their system?
>>>>>>> Five dollars?
>>>>>>> Would that be a day?
>>>>>>> Jim likes to check things out like that.
>>>>>>> Me, I would rather use my new system with Verizon.
>>>>>>> I have worked hard to do email by the phone, and even if I say so
>>>>>>> myself, I plum don't do that bad.
>>>>>>> My lists laugh at me if they get a blank message.
>>>>>>> I even hit the wrong keys on this computer trying to do something
>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>> Keeps me thinking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> Of course, the question is *why?* After all, one presumably goes to
>>>>>>>> conventions to attend meetings, not dabble on the Internet.
>>>>>>>> <<putting on
>>>>>>>> fire-resistant suit>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:35 PM
>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More frustrating was that there was no wifi at any price anywhere
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the area of the meeting rooms. Were I to make one request of the
>>>>>>>> national office when we return, it would be to obtain internet
>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>> for the meeting rooms and set up a few wifi routers at selected
>>>>>>>> locations for basic access.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 04:01:59PM -0400, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Just my two cents on this convention. The hotel was nice, very
>>>>>>>>> clean, nice
>>>>>>>>> rooms, and the staff was great. It was huge, people thought we
>>>>>>>>> walked a lot
>>>>>>>>> in Dallas, folks that is NOTHING! The food in the hotel was very
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> expensive, way way more than any of the restaurants in Dallas. It
>>>>>>>>> did help
>>>>>>>>> greatly to have the Publics across the street. If and when I go
>>>>>>>>> back, I
>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>> remember to take good walking shoes. In regards to the WiFi, yes
>>>>>>>>> it totally
>>>>>>>>> sucked there was no free access any where in the hotel. And yet
>>>>>>>>> again I am
>>>>>>>>> too cheap to buy it. As far as the cell coverage, I have Verizon
>>>>>>>>> and had
>>>>>>>>> converage every where in the hotel and rooms. So I think that
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> depends
>>>>>>>>> on your carrier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:43 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> really impressed with the facility. Hopefully the two of them can
>>>>>>>>> work something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects somewhat.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> certainly have no objection to the hotel making money-but the
>>>>>>>>> incidental fees are both too high and too frequent to be
>>>>>>>>> comfortable.
>>>>>>>>> There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the hotel is
>>>>>>>>> full of cellular dead zones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Brian M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013
>>>>>>>>>> through 2017
>>>>>>>>>> will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the length of the
>>>>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>>>>> back to how it was and NFB would organize tours for Wednesday
>>>>>>>>>> afternoon.
>>>>>>>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time to
>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep
>>>>>>>>>> people here
>>>>>>>>>> for five years in a row, we need to give them ample opportunity
>>>>>>>>>> to take
>>>>>>>>>> advantage of all there is to do in Orlando. Besides, I like the
>>>>>>>>>> banquet
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> night before the last day of convention.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sherri Brun
>>>>>>>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other
>>>>>>>>>> plans." John
>>>>>>>>>> Lennon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Check out http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> NFBF NewslineR chair
>>>>>>>>>> www.nfbnewsline.org
>>>>>>>>>> Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter http://nfbfgoc.org
>>>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>>> FDCP
>>>>>>>>>> INC www.fdcp.org Chair Orange County Disability Advisory
>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>
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