[nfb-talk] Tipping

T. Joseph Carter carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
Fri Jul 15 23:06:11 UTC 2011


That is good practice, and it does get results.

Joseph


On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 03:44:45PM -0400, Sherri wrote:
>I always tip even with bad service. With bad service, I tip less than 
>the customary amount. Now if the person apologizes for the bad 
>service, that makes a big difference. If you don't tip with bad 
>service, they just think you're cheap. If you tip a smaller amount, 
>they know why.
>
>Sherri
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica" 
><jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Tipping
>
>
>>I didn't go to headwaters but at cattails they added 18% so I 
>>didn't tip. If they don't add gratuity, then unless the service was 
>>horrible, I make sure to tip.
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>On Jul 15, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The gratuity at the Osceollo Cafe was 18 percent. The Headwaters 
>>>Lounge didn't add gratuity automatically so I tried to tip rather 
>>>well there. Long live hamburgers and nachos!
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>On Jul 15, 2011, at 1:02, "T. Joseph Carter" 
>>><carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Likewise, unless the service was exceptional.  It’s funny, I 
>>>>tend to tip more when they don’t, because I tend to write the 
>>>>total for a relatively round number resulting in 15-20% tip, 
>>>>and more if the service was good. For a short time, I worked 
>>>>food service, so I tend   to be very generous in that 
>>>>department when it’s totally up to me.
>>>>
>>>>Gratuity is usually calculated at 15%, and so that’s what they 
>>>>get from me unless I had reason to do the extra work.
>>>>
>>>>Joseph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 07:52:06PM -0700, Jessica wrote:
>>>>>If restaurants already add gratuity then I do not tip.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>On Jul 14, 2011, at 3:57 PM, <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes some restaurants do and some don't. I am sure to ask if 
>>>>>>they added it to the bill since of course I can't see the 
>>>>>>charge. If not, I add some to it for a tip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message----- From: Marsha Drenth
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:02 PM
>>>>>>To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Tipping
>>>>>>
>>>>>>All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not all the restaurants added gratuity. The Italian place 
>>>>>>and the Club house
>>>>>>restaurant both did not add tip, but we did add it for our servers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>---Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:40 AM
>>>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>Subject: [nfb-talk] Tipping
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello Marsha and everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tips were automatically added to your bill in the restaurants at the
>>>>>>Shingle Creek. None the less we made sure our servers and 
>>>>>>other hotel staff
>>>>>>got their share.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Peter Donahue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Drenth" 
>>>>>><marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>>>>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 8:30 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tipping is a whole different subject. I am not cheap in 
>>>>>>that regard. Like at
>>>>>>the Rosen Hotel, someone helped us up to our room with our 
>>>>>>groceries, I
>>>>>>tipped that person. The person who set up our roll away 
>>>>>>bed, I tipped him.
>>>>>>We left tips for all our waiters at all the restaurants. 
>>>>>>Tipping is for good
>>>>>>service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:10 PM
>>>>>>To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't like tipping, either. But I do it because it's the 
>>>>>>way the world
>>>>>>works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>Behalf Of Marsha Drenth
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:13 PM
>>>>>>To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Entitlement? Not me atleast, can't speak for anyone else. I 
>>>>>>am not a big fan
>>>>>>of hotels and business nicle and dimeing you for every 
>>>>>>single little thing.
>>>>>>I know its how they make their money. But extra pillows, so 
>>>>>>an extra $5.00,
>>>>>>Or you need to use the bathroom on a plane now, so you will 
>>>>>>have to fork
>>>>>>over $5.00, to relieve yourself. I mean come on people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just my two cents, but I promise ya it won't cost ya two cents!
>>>>>>Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:03 PM
>>>>>>To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The charges are about the same. In my experience, hotels 
>>>>>>with free wifi are
>>>>>>usually much smaller as in, for example, the Holiday Inn 
>>>>>>Capitol where we
>>>>>>hold the Washington Seminar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I surely hope we aren't working ourselves into an 
>>>>>>entitlement mentality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>Behalf Of bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:42 PM
>>>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, how much do other large hotels charge? Some small hotels have no
>>>>>>charge, but they do have several public computers to use; 
>>>>>>they know business
>>>>>>
>>>>>>people need to conduct business.
>>>>>>I wonder what is reasonable? Compare that to other hotels to find out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Loren Wakefield
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:08 PM
>>>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That amount is something like the mob would charge.  There 
>>>>>>is absolutely no
>>>>>>reason to charge that much except that they think they can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>>>To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:09 AM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>9.95 a day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:44 PM
>>>>>>>To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>yes it is nice to check email though when you would wish.
>>>>>>>What was the cost to use their system?
>>>>>>>Five dollars?
>>>>>>>Would that be a day?
>>>>>>>Jim likes to check things out like that.
>>>>>>>Me, I would rather use my new system with Verizon.
>>>>>>>I have worked hard to do email by the phone, and even if 
>>>>>>>I say so myself,
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>plum don't do that bad.
>>>>>>>My lists laugh at me if they get a blank message.
>>>>>>>I even hit the wrong keys on this computer trying to do 
>>>>>>>something else.
>>>>>>>Keeps me thinking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Original message:
>>>>>>>>Of course, the question is *why?* After all, one presumably goes to
>>>>>>>>conventions to attend meetings, not dabble on the 
>>>>>>>>Internet. <<putting
>>>>>>>>on fire-resistant suit>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>>>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:35 PM
>>>>>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>More frustrating was that there was no wifi at any price anywhere in
>>>>>>>>the area of the meeting rooms.  Were I to make one request of the
>>>>>>>>national office when we return, it would be to obtain 
>>>>>>>>internet access
>>>>>>>>for the meeting rooms and set up a few wifi routers at selected
>>>>>>>>locations for basic access.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Joseph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 04:01:59PM -0400, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Just my two cents on this convention. The hotel was 
>>>>>>>>>nice, very clean,
>>>>>>>>>nice rooms, and the staff was great. It was huge, people thought we
>>>>>>>>>walked a lot in Dallas, folks that is NOTHING! The 
>>>>>>>>>food in the hotel
>>>>>>>>>was very very expensive, way way more than any of the 
>>>>>>>>>restaurants in
>>>>>>>>>Dallas. It did help greatly to have the Publics 
>>>>>>>>>across the street. If
>>>>>>>>>and when I go back, I
>>>>>>>>must
>>>>>>>>>remember to take good walking shoes. In regards to the WiFi, yes it
>>>>>>>>>totally sucked there was no free access any where in the hotel. And
>>>>>>>>>yet again I am too cheap to buy it. As far as the cell coverage, I
>>>>>>>>>have Verizon and had converage every where in the 
>>>>>>>>>hotel and rooms. So
>>>>>>>>>I think that really
>>>>>>>>depends
>>>>>>>>>on your carrier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Marsha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:43 AM
>>>>>>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and 
>>>>>>>>>Dr. Maurer was
>>>>>>>>>really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them can
>>>>>>>>>work something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime 
>>>>>>>>>effects somewhat. I
>>>>>>>>>certainly have no objection to the hotel making money-but the
>>>>>>>>>incidental fees are both too high and too frequent to 
>>>>>>>>>be comfortable.
>>>>>>>>>There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the hotel is
>>>>>>>>>full of cellular dead zones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Joseph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Brian M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>[mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013
>>>>>>>>>>through 2017 will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the
>>>>>>>>>>length of the
>>>>>>>>>convention
>>>>>>>>>>back to how it was and NFB would organize tours for Wednesday
>>>>>>>>>>afternoon.
>>>>>>>>>>That way, people could get excited about Orlando 
>>>>>>>>>>and have time to go
>>>>>>>>>places.
>>>>>>>>>>I liked the old schedule much better. If we are 
>>>>>>>>>>going to keep people
>>>>>>>>>>here for five years in a row, we need to give them 
>>>>>>>>>>ample opportunity
>>>>>>>>>>to take advantage of all there is to do in Orlando. 
>>>>>>>>>>Besides, I like
>>>>>>>>>>the banquet
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>night before the last day of convention.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sherri Brun
>>>>>>>>>>"Life is what happens to you while you're busy 
>>>>>>>>>>making other plans."
>>>>>>>>>>John Lennon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Check out http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>NFBF NewslineR chair
>>>>>>>>>>www.nfbnewsline.org
>>>>>>>>>>Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter http://nfbfgoc.org
>>>>>>>>>>Secretary
>>>>>>>>>FDCP
>>>>>>>>>>INC www.fdcp.org Chair Orange County Disability Advisory Committee
>>>>>>>
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