[nfb-talk] need help with jaws

Thu Jun 9 18:25:55 UTC 2011

Joshua:

I suspect you'll have problems with Facebook whatever screen-reader you use. The developers keep changing things because apparently the sighted suffer terminal brain damage if they must look at the same thing for more than fifty nanoseconds! Why not get out there and meet *real* people, not cyberentities? (grin) 

Mike Freeman
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On Jun 9, 2011, at 11:00, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:

> Well, that's why everyone needs to join me.
> I'm about to get rid of Jaws, anyway, because of a different problem.
> I'm wanting to experiment with HumanWare's products.
> Facebook won't cooperate with Jaws.
> Every time I try to create a page, the Jaws makes my computer shut down.
> I don't understand why.
> I have Jaws 11.0.
> Blessings, Joshua
> 
> On 6/9/11, John Heim <john at johnheim.net> wrote:
>> Right now I am at 12.0.1161 which was just released  the day before
>> yesterday. That was another thing they had me do, update to the very latest
>> version. But I can reproduce this problem on a machine running version 9. I
>> can reproduce it on Windows XP, jaws version 9, and Windows XP jaws version
>> 12, and Windows 7 jaws version 12.  I can reproduce the problem on every
>> machine I've tried it on and have been able to do so for many years.
>> 
>> To be quite honest, I think Freedom Scientific is jerking me around. But I
>> thought I'd better make sure before i started thinking badly of them.
>> 
>> First they asked for a more detailed explanation of the problem which I
>> think is fairly clear to anyone who knows anything about computers. Second,
>> they made me update my version even though my version was only a couple of
>> weeks old and the problem has been around for years anyway. Now they say
>> they can't reproduce it. Hmmm... I suppose its possible I've done something
>> wrong when installing jaws all these years but I just set up a Windows 7
>> machine a few weeks ago and haven't done anything to it yet but installed
>> jaws. And it does the same thing. I mean, its practically a fresh install of
>> Win7.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] need help with jaws
>> 
>> 
>>> John, what version do you use?
>>> If I were you, I'd talk to the freedom scientific guys, in person.
>>> They should be at convention, this year.
>>> Are you going?
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> 
>>> On 6/9/11, Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> hi,
>>>> 
>>>> you are correct, even after switching to say all, nothing is spoken with
>>>> the
>>>> screen maximized.
>>>> 
>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 11:35 AM
>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] need help with jaws
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm having a problem with my jaws screen reader. I submitted a bug
>>>>> report
>>>>> but Freedom Scientific tells me they can't reproduce the bug. My
>>>>> experience has been that all version of jaws have had this problem and
>>>>> it
>>>>> happens on every computer I've ever tried it on.  So I was hoping other
>>>>> users of jaws could tell me if they can reproduce the problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem is that jaws can't read text in a full screen command
>>>>> window.
>>>>> A command window is the way Microsoft Windows lets you ttype in commands
>>>>> sort of like the old days of DOS. If you use jaws I think you may be
>>>>> able
>>>>> to reproduce my problem by doing the following:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Press Windows+r to open a run dialog box. Jaws should say "Type the
>>>>> name of a program etcetera" Type the word command and press enter. That
>>>>> should open a command window.
>>>>> 2. Press Alt+Enter to make the window full screen. At this point, if you
>>>>> type a command like dir or help, text will be displayed on the screen
>>>>> but
>>>>> not spoken by jaws. Or at least that is what it does for me.
>>>>> 3. Put the window back to normal size by pressing Alt+Enter again. Now
>>>>> when you type a command, jaws will work correctly and read the text that
>>>>> is displayed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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