[nfb-talk] FW: NFB stand on Blind Child Area signs?

[Mike Freeman]

But wait a minute. Don't the messages below carry their own subliminal
messages -- that the blind really *are* more vulnerable than are the
sighted? I don't buy it, at least not in general.

Mike
 

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Behalf Of Mike Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:35 PM
To: ckrugman at sbcglobal.net; NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: NFB stand on Blind Child Area signs?

Yeah,  you may as well put up a neon sign: Blind person living here, please,
rob me.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: NFB stand on Blind Child Area signs?


>I know that this has been discussed before on the NFB Blind law list 
>and I  think that the concensus was that this was a bad idea. In the 
>case that I  recall the issue was that signage was put up in a locality 
>indicating  where  a blind person lived. Not only would it be 
>considered discriminatory it  would also create a potential risk in 
>that the person living there could  become a potential victim. Drivers 
>in all neighborhoods need to be  cautious  where all children are 
>concerned blind or sighted.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)" <Bennett.Prows at HHS.GOV>
> To: "NFB of Washington Talk Mailing List" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:37 PM
> Subject: [nfb-talk] FW: NFB stand on Blind Child Area signs?
>
>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> I can't remember whether we have had any policy statements on the 
>> issue raised by Steve Ice's query of me in the E-mail string below, 
>> but thought I'd post it for any comments.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> /s/
>>
>> Bennett
>>
>> From: Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:17 PM
>> To: Ice, Steve (ACF)
>> Subject: RE: NFB stand on Blind Child Area signs?
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I don't know that we've adopted a formal resolution on a state or 
>> national level, but the issue has come up many times on lists, etc. 
>> There is unanimous opposition, and concern about these types of 
>> signs.  There have been many instances when individuals, and I think 
>> even chapters have fought and had them taken down. They really are 
>> disturbing. May I post this to our NFB list?
>>
>> Thanks.'
>>
>> /s/
>>
>> Bennett Prows
>>
>> From: Ice, Steve (ACF)
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 1:01 PM
>> To: Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)
>> Subject: NFB stand on Blind Child Area signs?
>>
>>
>> Ben,
>>
>> In my neighborhood there are two very large, very prominent, yellow 
>> and black cautionary road signs that say "Blind Child Area".
>> The signs have been there for 10 to 20 years. I am sure the child is 
>> off to college if not on social security by now.
>>
>> I feel these signs are demeaning and have the untended consequence of 
>> spreading the belief that caution is warranted around blind people 
>> who cannot otherwise develop orientation and mobility skills to be 
>> safe and self sufficient.
>>
>> Researching the web, I discovered quite a few sign vendors pushing 
>> these, a few state application forms in the Southeastern US and at 
>> least 2 'you tube' videos made by adolescents who show blind people 
>> walking head first into the 'blind child area' signs.
>>
>> What's next? "My husband has Alzheimer's" signs? "Warning: crack 
>> house on this block" signs?
>>
>> I do not view these as an accommodation such as improved crosswalk 
>> stripping or warning bumps on curb cuts because they are not in any 
>> way instrumental or accommodating to the blind person's independence.
>>
>> In any case, I would like to know, before writing the county or 
>> state, if NFB has a policy on these types of signs. I feel that a 
>> policy statement from those who are blind would go a lot further than my
personal opinion.
>>
>> Steve
>>
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