[nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB, please read.

Joshua Lester jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Tue Jul 17 02:28:10 UTC 2012 

I've heard clips from his speeches, on Youtube.
They were great!
I'd like to hear the entire speeches!
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/16/12, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>
> There are some.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:16 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the NFB,
> please read.
>
> I've noticed something!
> They have Dr Jernigan's and Dr Maurer's speeches, but why aren't there any
> old recordings of Dr Tenbroek, on the site to listen to?
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 7/15/12, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>> Go to the NFB web site, then to "Members" and you'll find links to
>> affiliates and divisions.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of qubit
>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:53 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> NFB, please read.
>>
>> I disagree -- acbradio is a good resource -- I mean, how many thousand
>> people listen to Main "Menu" to get the low down on the latest
>> adaptive technology?  (Actually I haven't listened to Main Menu in
>> quite some time
>> --
>> is it still on the air?) I haven't listened to any of their other
>> programming, but I always thought acbradio was a good resource.
>> Now on another note, where do I go to find my local chapter website? I
>> haven't paid my dues...
>> --le
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> NFB,please read.
>>
>>
>> Ray has a good point. Further more, why would we want to have a radio
>> station, so we can be like the other guys? The NFB does not need a
>> radio station, as we are into getting things done. A radio station for
>> those who do not choose to work, which I know is no one here, to sit
>> around and listen to. I think the NFB would rather try to help put
>> those people to work, making money and income.
>>
>> 2cents worth,
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:44 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining the
>> NFB,please read.
>>
>> And, with what money would you fund this radio station and take away
>> help from those blind people who need our help?  With what money would
>> you hire the staff, blind or sighted?
>>
>> Point is this.  Just think how much money is being exausted by the
>> other folks with their fancy station.  To what better use might that
>> money be put?
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>
>>> Why can't the NFB take "Through Our Eyes," and turn it into KNFB Radio?
>>> The NFB needs its own radio station!
>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/15/12, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> Not to mention which, the ACB complained when we set up our NFB
>>>> Newsline service.  Jallous maybe because we were the ones who did it.
>>>>
>>>> I might point out that we stream our national conventions now; and,
>>>> the stream actually works.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>> Skype name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Roger devin Prater wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I've also thought about joining the NFB, because they
>>>>> actually provide services like the NFB newsline and things like
>>>>> that, and I don't really know of any that the ACB provides besides
>>>>> their ACB radio
>> thing.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Lester"
>>>>> <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] My reasons for reconsideration of joining
>>>>> the
>> NFB,
>>>>> please read.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Glad to hear this!
>>>>> Welcome to the NFB!
>>>>> Another convert here!
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/15/12, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>> This is going to be a long post, and a lot of heads will turn, I'm
>> sure.
>>>>>> For many years, a lot of people will know, that I was heavilly
>>>>>> involved in the American Council of the Blind, (ACB). Well, this
>>>>>> years
>> convention
>>>>>> definitely decided for me, read on, and you will find out why.
>>>>>> Now, before I continue, I want everyone to remember, that I'm not
>>>>>> trying to bash ACB, just speaking my opinion. First of all, the
>>>>>> biggest complaint I had, was I felt the conference/convention was
>>>>>> very disorganized. The roll call of states, seemed very
>>>>>> disorganized, and
>> honestly, the "fat"
>>>>>> jokes were getting very old. Then, on monday, the door prize
>>>>>> people
>> were
>>>>>> not even ready, to hand out door prizes. I just felt it was not
>>>>>> good as in previous years. Now, on to the biggest complaint. as
>>>>>> some of you know, we are in the process of passing a bill, for the
>>>>>> subminimum
>> wages.
>>>>>> Basically, making it illegal to pay blind persons less money then
>>>>>> their sighted colleagues. The following information, below, is
>>>>>> taken from the publication. The NFB, (national Federation of the
>>>>>> Blind) definitely supports this, and so do I, again, see below.
>>>>>> Voice of the Nation's Blind
>>>>>> National Federation of the Blind Logo Marc Maurer, President
>>>>>> 200 East Wells Street
>>>>>> at Jernigan Place
>>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21230
>>>>>> Phone 410 659 9314 Fax 410 685 5653 www.nfb.org The Fair Wages for
>>>>>> Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011 H.R. 3086 Disabled workers
>>>>>> have been unfairly excluded from the federal minimum wage for 74
>>>>>> years, and today over 300,000 disabled workers are working for
>>>>>> subminimum wages.
>>>>>> Section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) discriminates
>>>>>> against people with disabilities. This section allows the
>>>>>> Secretary of Labor to grant special wage certificates to
>>>>>> employers, permitting them to pay their workers with disabilities
>>>>>> less than the minimum wage,
>> often
>>>>>> in sheltered work environments. In some instances disabled workers
>>>>>> are being paid pennies per hour.
>>>>>> This discrimination is rooted in low expectations based on
>>>>>> misconceptions about the capabilities of disabled people. The law
>>>>>> falsely implies that people with disabilities cannot be productive
>>>>>> employees, and subminimum wage employers prey on society's
>> misconception
>>>>>> that disabled people are incapable of being competitively employed.
>>>>>> In reality, when provided the proper rehabilitation training and
>>>>>> tools, workers with disabilities can be productive and financially
>> independent.
>>>>>> Subminimum wage supports an outdated business model that fosters
>>>>>> the underemployment of workers with disabilities. Section 14(c)
>>>>>> was only to be used "to the extent necessary to prevent
>>>>>> curtailment of opportunities" for employment of people with
>>>>>> disabilities. Instead, subminimum-wage sheltered workshops have
>>>>>> eroded into day custody centers, limiting opportunities for
>>>>>> workers with disabilities ever to transition into integrated,
>>>>>> competitive work. These institutions
>> instill
>>>>>> a philosophy of incapacity, which becomes a self-fulfilling
>>>>>> prophecy resulting in long-term underemployment.
>>>>>> The sheltered work system is a cash cow for the subminimum wage
>>>>>> employer. Many employers insist that paying the minimum wage to
>> disabled
>>>>>> employees would result in lack of profitability and a reduction in
>> their
>>>>>> workforce, but most benefit from philanthropic donations,
>>>>>> preferred status when bidding on federal contracts, and federal
> funding.
>> Moreover,
>>>>>> while their disabled workers receive subminimum wages that are
>>>>>> subsidized by Social Security and public assistance, some workshop
>>>>>> executives are earning salaries far above industry norms. The
>>>>>> economics overwhelmingly favor subminimum wage employers,
>>>>>> encouraging the perpetuation of subminimum wage employment and
>>>>>> leaving workers with disabilities little to no choice for real
>> employment.
>>>>>> The Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act of 2011:
>>>>>> Discontinues the practice of issuing special wage certificates.
>>>>>> The secretary of labor will no longer issue special wage
>>>>>> certificates to
>> new
>>>>>> applicants.
>>>>>> Phases out all remaining special wage certificates over a 3-year
>> period.
>>>>>> Entities currently holding special wage certificates will begin
>>>>>> compensating their workers with disabilities at no less than the
>> federal
>>>>>> minimum wage, using the following schedule:
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> private for-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 1
>>>>>> year; .
>>>>>> public or governmental entities' certificates will be revoked
>>>>>> after
>>>>>> 2 years; and .
>>>>>> non-profit entities' certificates will be revoked after 3 years.
>>>>>> Repeals Section14(c) of the FLSA. Three years after the law is
>>>>>> enacted, the practice of paying disabled workers subminimum wage
>>>>>> will be officially abolished, and workers with disabilities will
>>>>>> no longer be excluded from the workforce protection of a federal
>>>>>> minimum
>> wage.
>>>>>> STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
>>>>>> PROMOTE EQUAL WORK FOR EQUAL PAY
>>>>>> Cosponsor the Fair Wages for Workers with Disabilities Act H.R.
>>>>>> 3086 For more information contact:
>>>>>> Anil Lewis, Director of Strategic Communications National
>>>>>> Federation of the Blind
>>>>>> Phone: (410) 659-9314, Extension 2374 E-mail: alewis at nfb.org To
>>>>>> cosponsor the bill, contact:
>>>>>> James Thomas in Congressman Cliff Stearns's office
>>>>>> Phone: (202) 225-5744 E-mail: james.thomas at mail.house.gov
>>>>>> -OR-
>>>>>> Tim Powers in Congressman Tim Bishop's office
>>>>>> Phone: (202) 225-3826 E-mail: tim.powers at mail.house.gov Voice of
>>>>>> the Nation's Blind Now, when this was taken up at the ACB's
>>>>>> convention, there was a "do
>> not
>>>>>> pass" recommendation. It went through. This made me very upset,
>>>>>> and proves, that in my opinion, ACB does not care about the future
>>>>>> of the BLIND. Therefore, I've decided to give the NFB another try,
>>>>>> once I can afford to, I will pay my dues, to join NFB.
>>>>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>>>> Mike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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