[nfb-talk] mistake made in jury duty pool; would like advice

Wed Mar 28 02:14:50 UTC 2012

Ray,

Like the other Mike I served on a jury which did have to deal with
photographic and other sight oriented data.  I served as foreman and at the
end of the day our defendent was found not guilty.  The entire jury worked
together to make sure we all understood ALL the evidence.

I think you already made a good impression on the judge.  I agree you should
leave it alone.

Lesson learned, don't make the same mistake again.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] mistake made in jury duty pool; would like advice

Ray:

At this time, I'd leave it alone. Writing to the judge might or might not
have the desired impact. Were I you, I'd just trust that he won't take you
out of the jury pool.

I say to Joshua that photographic evidence is not nearly so crucial in
trials as lawyers and jurists say it is. If a verdict is appealed, the
appeal has nothing to do with photographic evidence but, rather, whether
there were points of law or instructions to jurors that judge and/or
prosecutor and defense attorneys erred upon. Also, since jurors discuss
among themselves how to weigh the evidence, you can ask them questions about
photographic evidence.

I served on a jury (it eventually hung because some witnesses skeedaddled)
in a reckless endangerment with firearms case. Kind of got the judges when I
said I'd fired various pistols. (grin)

Also, prosecution and defense are allowed a certain number of preemtory
challenges of jurors for which they do not have to give a reason.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] mistake made in jury duty pool; would like advice

No, he did not specify print; but, that, I think, was what he meant.

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

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On Mar 27, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Loren wrote:

> He did not ask if you could read and write it in print, did he?  And 
> it's nice to hear of a blind person not trying to get out of jury duty 
> because
he
> is blind. 
> 
> Loren
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:03 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: [nfb-talk] mistake made in jury duty pool; would like advice
> 
> Frankly, I feel like shit.  I really screwed up.  I won't bore y'all 
> with every detail of what happened; but, it boils down to this.
> 
> 
> 	The judge started asking question, and everything was going well.
> Then, he asked if we could all read and write the English language.
Here's
> where I fucked up.  YOu see, if your answer was yes, you kept your 
> hand down;  if no, you raised it.  forgetting that for the moment, I 
> raised my hand.  The judge then confirmed that I was blind and had counsel
approach.
> I was then dismissed.  didn't even get a chance to explain how I could 
> handle stuff.  So, I tried to save the situation by having it 
> officially entered in to the court records that I wished for my name 
> to remain in the potential jury pool for next summons.  My only 
> recourse, now, as I see it, is to write the judge a letter explaining 
> how I would deal with things
like
> that as a blind person.  When I said to the judge, "I want to make it
clear
> that I do NOT want to have my name removed from the potential jury 
> pool!", the judge said,
> 	"I will certainly not have your name removed.  I wish more people
had 
> your attitude.".
> 	that's why a well written print or typed letter might, I feel, make 
> an impression on the mind of the judge.  e-mail will just simply not 
> do; and, a phone call would be even worse.  What I would like to know is
this.
> Given the circumstances, such things as the KNFB reader are just not 
> feasible because I don't have nor can afford one.  Human readers seem 
> doubtful because one would have to be sworn to the trial before 
> dealing
with
> documentation and other visual evidence.  Would it be possible for 
> other blind people who have successfully served on juries before give 
> me advice
on
> what I can do to convince the judge of our competence?  I suspect that
with
> the right approach, the judge might be willing to consider what I have 
> to say.  It seems that it always hangs on the visual question.
> 
> So, there's my sucky day.
> 
> Oh if only I had kept my damn hand down!!
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
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