[nfb-talk] language discussion

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Tue Jul 23 01:52:28 UTC 2013 

How do you know where the signs are and what's to prevent them from becoming
obstacles for foreheads?

Mike


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Why?

Anna E Givens

On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:20 PM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:

> They're impractical.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anna 
> Givens
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 5:14 PM
> To: mike at michaelhingson.com; NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] language discussion
> 
> I don't know much about it, but it is an interesting idea.  It might 
> be nice to have signs that blind people can read.  Sighted people get 
> them, why don't we?
> 
> Anna E Givens
> 
> On Jul 22, 2013, at 6:25 PM, "Michael Hingson" 
> <Mike at michaelhingson.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Ah, but you'd be surprised how different wording is in different
> countries.
>> I have never heard Australians say "orientated", but I guess it is
> possible.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:49 PM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: Interesting article on a new trial for 
>> signs
> in
>> Australia
>> 
>> Pet Peeve, ... orientate is not a word.  One would be oriented, or 
>> would
> get
>> oriented, orient him/herself to the surroundings, , but never orientated.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m 
>> gina
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 12:38 PM
>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: Interesting article on a new trial for 
>> signs
> in
>> Australia
>> 
>> I have never seen a street sign, are they on the same pole as a light
> pole?
>> That would be most entertaining.
>> 
>> Original message:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>>> The following article was sent to me by a friend. Maybe the local 
>>> county government is considering placing Braille signage for street
> signs.
>> 
>>> I would like to know the federation thoughts on this topic.
>> 
>>> Yasmin Reyazuddin
>>> Aging & Disability Services
>>> Montgomery County Government
>>> Department of Health & Human Services
>>> 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
>>> Rockville MD 20850
>>> 240-777-0311 (MC311)
>>> 240-777-1556 (personal)
>>> 240-777-1495 (fax)
>>> office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
>>> Languages English, Hindi, Urdu, Braille
>> 
>>> This message may contain protected health information or other 
>>> information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the 
>>> intended recipient, please contact the sender by return mail and 
>>> destroy any copies of this material.
>> 
>>> Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> http://www.guidedogs.com.au/news-and-events/news/20-06-2013/sydneysi
>>> de rs -with-impaired-vision-to-trial-new-braille-street-signs
>> 
>>> Top of Form
>> 
>>> Sydneysiders with impaired vision to trial new Braille street signs
>> 
>>> 20 June, 2013
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Walking around Sydney can be easy if you can see to read the street 
>>> signs, but imagine how you'd go if you were blind or vision impaired?
>> 
>>> With the incidence of vision loss increasing, Guide Dogs NSW/ACT has 
>>> welcomed a City of Sydney initiative to trial Braille and tactile 
>>> street signs that provide people who are blind or vision impaired 
>>> with information on where they are.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Today, Guide Dogs NSW/ACT clients who use guide dogs or long canes 
>>> to help them get around will participate in the trial at Circular Quay.
>>> It will involve them testing and providing feedback on the 
>>> legibility of prototype street signs that provide location 
>>> information in Braille and tactile raised lettering.
>> 
>>> Guide Dogs NSW/ACT clients and Community Education staff have played 
>>> a key role in the City of Sydney's consultation process on the 
>>> development of the new Braille and tactile street signs, which will 
>>> replace existing signage that has worn-out from use since they were 
>>> installed in the 1990s.
>> 
>>> "The trial will ensure that the best possible Braille and tactile 
>>> street sign products and designs are used so that people who are 
>>> blind or vision impaired can easily and independently access the 
>>> City of
>> Sydney,"
>>> says Jennifer Moon, Community Education Coordinator for Guide Dogs 
>>> NSW/ACT.
>> 
>>> "The Braille and tactile street signs are an important enhancement 
>>> to the specialized work our Orientation and Mobility Instructors do. 
>>> They provide training to people with impaired vision that enables 
>>> them to move around their environments safely and on their own."
>> 
>>> After the trial, it is proposed that a new network of Braille and 
>>> tactile street signs will be placed next to pedestrian crossing 
>>> buttons on traffic light poles through the CBD. They aim to give 
>>> pedestrians with vision loss the confidence that they will be able 
>>> to
>> 'orientate'
>>> themselves throughout their journey and at their destination.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Guide dog handler Nicole Holmes (pictured above), who has been part 
>>> of the consultation process, knows only too well how important it is 
>>> to have the right Braille and tactile street signs in place.
>> 
>>> "The ability to identify my location or where I am in such a busy 
>>> city like Sydney most importantly eases my stress while I'm trying 
>>> to negotiate the environment," says Nicole, whose vision is impaired 
>>> due to Retinopathy of Prematurity.
>> 
>>> "Braille and tactile signage is also useful in reassuring me that I 
>>> am heading in the right direction to my destination so it 
>>> complements the assistance that I get from my long cane or guide 
>>> dog. I'm really pleased that the City of Sydney is trialing the 
>>> Braille street signs because as vision impairment can differ between 
>>> people, we need to make sure the end product will be useful for as 
>>> many people with vision impairment as possible."
>> 
>>> Research predicts that the number of people in NSW and the ACT aged 
>>> over
>>> 40 with impaired vision is set to rise to 100,000 by 2020 .
>> 
>>> Each year, Guide Dogs NSW/ACT provides free services to almost 4,000 
>>> people of all ages and with any degree of vision loss that might 
>>> impact their ability to get around independently.
>> 
>>> For more information about Guide Dogs NSW/Act's free services visit 
>>> www.guidedogs.com.au or call 1800 804 805.
>>> ENDS
>> 
>>> MEDIA: Please contact: Sally Edgar, 0413 753 241 or 
>>> media at guidedogs.com.au
>> 
>>> ABOUT GUIDE DOGS NSW/ACT
>>> Guide Dogs NSW/ACT is the leading provider of guide dogs and 
>>> orientation and mobility services to enable people with impaired 
>>> vision to get around their communities independently. Services 
>>> include providing training and aids including long canes, guide dogs 
>>> and electronic travel devices such as talking GPS technology. . 
>>> Visit www.guidedogs.com.au, call 1800 804 805, or follow us on 
>>> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/guidedogsnswact?ref=hl>  or 
>>> Twitter <https://twitter.com/GuideDogsNSWACT> .
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