[nfb-talk] FW: Interesting article on a new trialforsignsin Australia

Anna Givens annajee82 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 29 02:10:59 UTC 2013


Braille maps sounds nice and all but I dont think its a good idea.  Most blind people are not going to be able to make use of it.  Yes cell phone based, or electronic navigation is much more practical in a mall situation. 

Anna E Givens

On Jul 28, 2013, at 5:55 PM, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:

> While this all sounds nice, it is unlikely to happen because of our small numbers, and the expense and effort needed.  We are much more likely to have cell phone-based indoor navigation systems first, as there are a number of efforts going on in this area.
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 02:03 PM 7/28/2013, you wrote:
>> I think malls could provide proper Braille information through maps or
>> handout booklets with maps and descriptions of store locations.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike Hingson
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
>> Bramlett
>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 08:40 AM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: Interesting article on a new trialforsignsin
>> Australia
>> 
>> I like the idea of a large print and tactile map with  braille in the mall.
>> However, remember braille takes up more room so it would be impossible to
>> fit all braille labels on a map that was in print.
>> But, they could certainly include the major stores; also backs of map
>> brochures have lots of writing; I believe a list of stores by category and
>> such information would be nice to have in braille so we could read it just
>> as sighted people do. Such a map or braille list could be picked up at guest
>> services if you wanted it.
>> I think more tactile maps of hotels and malls would be more useful than
>> braille street signs.
>> 
>> Ashley
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Misty Dawn Bradley
>> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 12:46 AM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: Interesting article on a new trialforsignsin
>> Australia
>> 
>> It would be nice for the maps found at malls to have Braille, and that way
>> one could feel the map and then find the store using the map like sighted
>> people can do. Sometimes, in malls, it may be difficult to find a Braille
>> sign on the side of a store due to displays sticking out, etc. but if the
>> maps were in Braille, that may be useful.
>> Misty
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ashley Bramlett
>> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:50 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: Interesting article on a new trial forsignsin
>> Australia
>> 
>> I agree. having them inside a mall or large place like this would be more
>> helpful.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Powers, Terry (NIH/NCI) [E]
>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 9:19 AM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: Interesting article on a new trial for signsin
>> Australia
>> 
>> I would rather see them try something, like this, on signage for the stores
>> in a mall or shopping senter.  This way, I can go to a mall and identify any
>> store, on my own.  They can do it with rest rooms, why not each store!
>> Verbal street signs, sure would be nicer, but most likely are out of our
>> budget.  Braille signs are going to be hard to find and which sign is for
>> which street?  Kids can and wind can, cause signs to turn direction.  I am
>> not sure if I could depend on braille signs, unless there was a way for them
>> to stay stable.
>> Hight is also another problem.  I would like to see more effort made on
>> labeling the address of buildings and room numbers and store names.
>> 
>> Terry Powers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: d m gina [mailto:dmgina at samobile.net]
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 4:05 PM
>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] FW: Interesting article on a new trial for signs in
>> Australia
>> 
>> yes I am getting shorter and shorter, I'm sure they are way above my head.
>> Now that cracks me up.
>> 
>> Original message:
>> > I have.  As a rule, street signs tend to be mounted on poles and are
>> > quite high up:  more so than merely reaching a hand up would permit
>> > feeling.  That's another reason why Braille street signs ain't gonna work.
>> 
>> 
>> > Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
>> > blind built-in!
>> > Sincerely,
>> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> > On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:38 PM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >> I have never seen a street sign, are they on the same pole as a light
>> >> pole?
>> >> That would be most entertaining.
>> 
>> >> Original message:
>> >>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> >>> The following article was sent to me by a friend. Maybe the local
>> >>> county government is considering placing Braille signage for street
>> signs.
>> 
>> >>> I would like to know the federation thoughts on this topic.
>> 
>> >>> Yasmin Reyazuddin
>> >>> Aging & Disability Services
>> >>> Montgomery County Government
>> >>> Department of Health & Human Services
>> >>> 401 Hungerford Drive (3rd floor)
>> >>> Rockville MD 20850
>> >>> 240-777-0311 (MC311)
>> >>> 240-777-1556 (personal)
>> >>> 240-777-1495 (fax)
>> >>> office hours 8:30 am 5:00 pm
>> >>> Languages English, Hindi, Urdu, Braille
>> 
>> >>> This message may contain protected health information or other
>> >>> information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the
>> >>> intended recipient, please contact the sender by return mail and
>> >>> destroy any copies of this material.
>> 
>> >>> Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >>> http://www.guidedogs.com.au/news-and-events/news/20-06-2013/sydneysi
>> >>> ders -with-impaired-vision-to-trial-new-braille-street-signs
>> 
>> >>> Top of Form
>> 
>> >>> Sydneysiders with impaired vision to trial new Braille street signs
>> 
>> >>> 20 June, 2013
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >>> Walking around Sydney can be easy if you can see to read the street
>> >>> signs, but imagine how you'd go if you were blind or vision impaired?
>> 
>> >>> With the incidence of vision loss increasing, Guide Dogs NSW/ACT has
>> >>> welcomed a City of Sydney initiative to trial Braille and tactile
>> >>> street signs that provide people who are blind or vision impaired
>> >>> with information on where they are.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >>> Today, Guide Dogs NSW/ACT clients who use guide dogs or long canes
>> >>> to help them get around will participate in the trial at Circular
>> >>> Quay. It will involve them testing and providing feedback on the
>> >>> legibility of prototype street signs that provide location
>> >>> information in Braille and tactile raised lettering.
>> 
>> >>> Guide Dogs NSW/ACT clients and Community Education staff have played
>> >>> a key role in the City of Sydney's consultation process on the
>> >>> development of the new Braille and tactile street signs, which will
>> >>> replace existing signage that has worn-out from use since they were
>> >>> installed in the 1990s.
>> 
>> >>> "The trial will ensure that the best possible Braille and tactile
>> >>> street sign products and designs are used so that people who are
>> >>> blind or vision impaired can easily and independently access the City of
>> Sydney,"
>> >>> says Jennifer Moon, Community Education Coordinator for Guide Dogs
>> >>> NSW/ACT.
>> 
>> >>> "The Braille and tactile street signs are an important enhancement
>> >>> to the specialized work our Orientation and Mobility Instructors do.
>> >>> They provide training to people with impaired vision that enables
>> >>> them to move around their environments safely and on their own."
>> 
>> >>> After the trial, it is proposed that a new network of Braille and
>> >>> tactile street signs will be placed next to pedestrian crossing
>> >>> buttons on traffic light poles through the CBD. They aim to give
>> >>> pedestrians with vision loss the confidence that they will be able to
>> 'orientate'
>> >>> themselves throughout their journey and at their destination.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >>> Guide dog handler Nicole Holmes (pictured above), who has been part
>> >>> of the consultation process, knows only too well how important it is
>> >>> to have the right Braille and tactile street signs in place.
>> 
>> >>> "The ability to identify my location or where I am in such a busy
>> >>> city like Sydney most importantly eases my stress while I'm trying
>> >>> to negotiate the environment," says Nicole, whose vision is impaired
>> >>> due to Retinopathy of Prematurity.
>> 
>> >>> "Braille and tactile signage is also useful in reassuring me that I
>> >>> am heading in the right direction to my destination so it
>> >>> complements the assistance that I get from my long cane or guide
>> >>> dog. I'm really pleased that the City of Sydney is trialing the
>> >>> Braille street signs because as vision impairment can differ between
>> >>> people, we need to make sure the end product will be useful for as
>> >>> many people with vision impairment as possible."
>> 
>> >>> Research predicts that the number of people in NSW and the ACT aged
>> >>> over
>> >>> 40 with impaired vision is set to rise to 100,000 by 2020 .
>> 
>> >>> Each year, Guide Dogs NSW/ACT provides free services to almost 4,000
>> >>> people of all ages and with any degree of vision loss that might
>> >>> impact their ability to get around independently.
>> 
>> >>> For more information about Guide Dogs NSW/Act's free services visit
>> >>> www.guidedogs.com.au or call 1800 804 805.
>> >>> ENDS
>> 
>> >>> MEDIA: Please contact: Sally Edgar, 0413 753 241 or
>> >>> media at guidedogs.com.au
>> 
>> >>> ABOUT GUIDE DOGS NSW/ACT
>> >>> Guide Dogs NSW/ACT is the leading provider of guide dogs and
>> >>> orientation and mobility services to enable people with impaired
>> >>> vision to get around their communities independently. Services
>> >>> include providing training and aids including long canes, guide dogs
>> >>> and electronic travel devices such as talking GPS technology. .
>> >>> Visit www.guidedogs.com.au, call 1800 804 805, or follow us on
>> >>> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/guidedogsnswact?ref=hl>  or
>> >>> Twitter <https://twitter.com/GuideDogsNSWACT> .
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