[nfb-talk] APPLICATION FOR LOAN

Wed Mar 6 02:49:38 UTC 2013

hi,

agreed, a common example is jaws that has been the same price for ages and 
is basically the same product every time a new version is released still 
with zero focus on visual studio.
Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] APPLICATION FOR LOAN

> Bryan,
>
> If you are as familiar with all this as you indicate, you already know 
> that the goal of our car and the Google car are different.  The Google 
> care drives itself.
> The goal of our project was to develop interfaces that allow a blind 
> person to actually drive a car.  In addition, the interfaces developed 
> have some
> possibility of impacting other areas of our lives in terms of potential 
> travel aids and other areas where tactile feedback might be useful. 
> Frankly, I've always
> been a little uneasy with us having a loan program.  Why can't some of the 
> companies who are profiting from their products do more to help persons 
> buy
> their technology.  If we do it, there is no reason for them to do it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:47:56 -0600, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>
>>hi,
>
>>you are correct sir and i'm not saying it was a mistake, just an insane
>>expense and ego probably was a factor in not wanting to share technology 
>>and
>>press with google.
>>i think the google car has a couple hundred thousand test miles from 
>>running
>>in nevada or california.
>>Bryan Schulz
>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 5:31 PM
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] APPLICATION FOR LOAN
>
>
>>> Think he refers to the blind-drivable car.
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>> sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 14:48, Paul Wick <wickps at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brian,
>>>>
>>>> What is the $2 million you are referring to?
>>>>
>>>> To add to what Mr. Freeman said: As you probably know several NFB
>>>> employees, many of whom have devoted a good part of their lives to the
>>>> Federation lost their jobs last year due to budget reductions. Running
>>>> any kind of organization requires setting priorities, and at least to
>>>> this rank-and-file member I think our priorities should be basically
>>>> as they areG?"that is on activities that keep the NFB message in the
>>>> public eye.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/5/13, Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> it was a choice, we know where 2 mil went.
>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:02 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] APPLICATION FOR LOAN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is pretty simple, really. The NFB Board of Directors decided that,
>>>>>> given the current financial crunch, we could not afford to continue 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> loan program. If we all raise more funds for the organization, 
>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>
>>>>>> could bring the program back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>>> sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:39, "Powers, Terry (NIH/NCI) [E]"
>>>>>> <Terry.Powers at nih.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What was the reason for stopping the loan.  I do not remember 
>>>>>>> hearing
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> word of this.  Guess I can not depend on the NFB for any assistance.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> was going to, in the near future, maybe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Terry Powers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Mike Freeman [mailto:k7uij at panix.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 7:39 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] APPLICATION FOR LOAN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>> Andrews
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 3:27 PM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] APPLICATION FOR LOAN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I remember correctly, the technology loan program was 
>>>>>>> discontinued.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 09:50 AM 2/27/2013, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> Good morning all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me who i can contact in order to get an application
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> a loan through the NFB?  I am going to need to make sure I have an
>>>>>>>> alternate route for acquiring what I will need in order to get
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>> the braille transcription course without a lot of static.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I want to purchase a 40-cell braille display because it is hard to
>>>>>>>> proofread with an 18-cell display.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anita
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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