[nfb-talk] A little concerned about this new drug aimedat totally blind population

Sat Feb 1 23:18:51 UTC 2014

I agree with you, Steve.  Fortunately when I went for a sleep study at a 
sleep clinic in Cleveland, it was recognized that I had sleep apnea, hence 
my wanting to fall asleep all the time both on and off the job during the 
day.  I also agree that if one is not doing anything productive during the 
day and not exercising enough, it can contribute to sleep problems.  Since 
we have a very high unemployment rate, I would imagine a lot of this sleep 
issue might be caused by stress regarding being unemployed and/or just not 
doing anything during the day.  I had to laugh when they said one possible 
impact was headaches.  Why not just take Advil or Tylenol PM and sleep and 
get rid of any headaches?  LOL.

Mark Tardif
Nuclear arms will not hold you.
-----Original Message----- 
From: Steve Jacobson
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 5:23 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] A little concerned about this new drug aimedat 
totally blind population

Hi,

I have also been uneasy about all of this, but I recognize I don't know all 
there is to know about all this.  Because One is blind and doesn't seem to 
have a sleep problem like this doesn't mean nobody does.
Because ablind person has a sleep disorder doesn't mean it is related to 
blindness, either.  I have seen firsthand where sleep clinics dealing with a 
blind person assume the problems are related to blindness
without running normal tests.  I've seen doctors actually get excited like 
little kids when they think they have a blind person with a sleep problem. 
It also appears that the drug Vanda has has now been
approved and was put on a sort of fast track because it deals with a rare 
and severe condition.  Blind people will have a disservice done if this drug 
is prescribed before a thorough evaluation is performed to
analyze serious sleep disorders.  I also think that painting blind people in 
their mass-marketing efforts as struggling to stay awake all day is not 
helpful in our efforts to get jobs.  There have been other marketing
efforts, though, where people have not been paid, so I don't know if that is 
Vanda or not.

I will forward the note I received regarding the approval of this drug.  I'm 
afraid I had to laugh a little when I saw that one side-effect is 
drousiness.  I want to be clear, though, that I do not claim that there are
not people with serious disorders who may be helped.  I also can't say that 
I know for certain that this particular disorder doesn't exist.  I just 
think we need to be sure that we are not stereotyped into this
disorder in a way that leaves other disorders undiagnosed.  We also need to 
recognize that for such research to be real accurate, a control group who is 
not blind but shares other similarities, such as the same
unemployment rate, would need to have been used, and I have not been 
convinced that was done in the reading I've done, but I don't claim I've 
read every word of every study.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 13:48:39 -0800, Mike Freeman wrote:

>Beth:

>I absolutely agree with you! Although a few blind folks may have a sleep
>disorder (I know of one such person), so do many sighted people and it is 
>my
>experience that when most blind persons with sleeping problems are put on a
>regular schedule (i.e., no odd hours, working a nine-to-five day, etc.) and
>get enough vigorous exercise, either on the job or as a program, their 
>sleep
>problems disappear. For example, I know a lady who used to have sleep
>problems when she wasn't working. But when she started working a regular 
>day
>at a Head Start program, up and down all day with the kids, miracle of
>miracles, her sleep problem disappeared!

>So I'm very much a doubter. Trouble is that when I voice such skepticism
>with much vigor, I get a lot of push-back from other blind people (both in
>ACB and NFB),maintaining I don't know what I'm talking about.

>Also, I know a couple of people who are participating in their so-called
>studies and haven't received payment yet.

>Can you say "snake-oil"?

>Mike Freeman
>

>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfb-talk [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>beth.wright at mindspring.com
>Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 1:33 PM
>To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>Subject: [nfb-talk] A little concerned about this new drug aimed at totally
>blind population

>Hi, folks. Just wanted to see if I could get the scoop on this new drug
>that's supposed to correct the sleep/wake cycles in people who are totally
>blind. I'm totally blind myself, but haven't had any problems with my sleep
>patterns, so, even though I've seen lots of ads for it on blindness-related
>web sites and know that they've been a major sponsor at our conventions, I
>wasn't all that concerned about it one way or the other. As far as I can
>tell, their ads have been pretty tastelike and their recruitment 
>techniques,
>fairly low key. Lately, though, they seem to be ramping up the message. 
>From
>what I can tell, they now seem to be claiming that this sleep/wake thing is
>a serious problem, affcting around eighty thousand people in the US, the
>majority ofthe totally-blind population. I think that's deceptive. I know
>that they need to reach the largest number of people possible in order to
>make a sufficient profit, but I don't think they should exaggerate the
>seriousness of this s
> o-called disorder.

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