[nfb-talk] So very proud

Star Gazer pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
Wed Sep 28 11:33:27 UTC 2016

				Peter, you may want to say what you've said
here to whoever is in charge of the church, and if you care enough to do so
keep current of what they're doing in case they run afoul of local laws that
may pertain. Churches aren't excempt from following the laws of society, the
pastor can't just decide that anybody who doesn't pass the swimming test at
the pool has to go dig ditches for the rest of their lives. 
Finally, anybody can plan to do anything. It doesn't mean they will be

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Donahue via nfb-talk
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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] So very proud

Good afternoon John and everyone,

     Then left the event and probably told a blind person needing occasional
hands on deck for reading mail and other tasks that they had no business
living alone, that their neighborhood was unsafe, and they should live in
assistive living facility. That happened to Mary and I last week. The
individual that told us this is a member of one of the largest churches in
San Antonio, 20,000 members including us to be exact. I thought that these
days the goal is to help those able to live independently stay in their
home. This church has more than enough able-bodied members that could assist
us with grocery shopping, reading mail, etc. We offered to give some of them
gas money for rides too and from church so we could attend services
regularly. All they said was "Don't worry about it." Due to problems with
public transportation we ceased attending church regularly.

     This particular church plans to establish what it calls its Sanctuary
of Hope. One of it's missions is to be an alternative to Planned Parenthood
which will assist unwed mothers with learning to care for their babies when
they're borne, finishing their education, finding employment, and helping
them get on their feet. Given their attitude towards helping the blind
members of their congragation God help any unwed blind mothers who may seek
help from the Sanctuary of Hope when it begins operation unless this outfit
has a serious change of attitude! 
Here is a classic case of why the antics of outfits like the Foundation for
Fighting Blindness need to be stopped and organizations like the NFB avoid
engaging in similar activities. Several Dining-in-the-Dark events were
hosted by the Texas Affiliate until a resolution was passed in 2011
condemning these events and forbidding NFB affiliates from engaging in them.
Mary and I were there when the resolution was adopted.

Peter Donahue

John Heim via nfb-talk wrote:
> I'm not surprised that the NFB has come out against this.
> It's kind of an odd choice by the FFB. I was once a waiter at an FFB 
> Dining In the Dark event. That was a blast, by the way. I had a great 
> time. I was going around making fun of the people at my table for not 
> even being able to stuff food in their mouths.  They took it really 
> well and pretty soon they were all actually trying instead of being 
> deliberately helpless. I went up to the guy who was most into it and 
> pretended to pour him a glass of champaign, making a popping sound 
> effect with my mouth. He played right along and the woman on the other
> side of him actually asked for a glass too.   It was hilarious and the 
> whole night was just a blast.
> Even so, I'm not sure I'd do it again. A couple of things bothered me. 
> First, in the after party, a lot of people seemed to think I really 
> was a waitor.  I'm like, "No, I manage the research computers for the 
> math department at the University of Wisconsin. I'm just doing this to 
> raise money for the FFB."  Admittedly, it's a little egotistical for 
> that to bother me. I was a little insulted to think that people didn't 
> assume I had a real job. The second thing was that a hefty percentage 
> of the people, even those at my table, remained unconvinced. I pointed 
> out that with a little effort, they had figured out how to feed 
> themselves and I had had no problems serving as their waitor. You get 
> used to it, right? But they weren't really buying it. Maybe a little.
> I'm not sure I did any good. Hard to say.
> Actually, this is a thing that has puzzled me for years. I have 
> friends who still think being blind is absolutely horrible -- except 
> for for me. When I point out that I am doing fine, better than they 
> are in some cases, they don't think that is proof that being blind 
> isn't so bad. They think I'm some kind of special case or something.
> On 09/26/2016 11:53 AM, Devin Prater via nfb-talk wrote:
>> Oh yes, I was nicely surprised when the NFB stood against that.
>> Devin Pratersent from Gmail.
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:49 AM, beth.wright--- via nfb-talk < 
>> nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi, fellow listers.
>>> Just wanted to say how very proud I am of the NFB for taking a 
>>> courageous stand against this misguided blindfold challenge campaign 
>>> by the Foundation Fighting Blindness. I've been a Federationist for 
>>> over forty years, been on the PAC plan for a long time, and thus 
>>> made a donation online. I encourage others to do the same. Now is 
>>> the time to stand up and be counted.
>>> Beth Wright
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