[nfb-talk] Here he comes...

Larry Wayland lhwayland at sbcglobal.net
Mon Jan 23 22:28:35 UTC 2017


The frustrating thing here is it really doesn't make any difference and
Trump is making a big deal about nothing.  He is so narcissistic  he wants
to be the biggest, and  the best at everything.  He also always wants to win
and he will go to any length to make sure he does win.  That is one of the
things that makes him so dangerous.


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Trump was complaining about an estimate that put the attendance for his 
inauguration at only 250,000.  The NYT and CNN web sites have 
photographs that show the crowd last Friday was much smaller than that 
for President Obama in 2009 or even for the protest march the day after 
the inauguration.

It doesn't have to be like this. Other politicians have made mistakes. 
There was the time Hillary Clinton claimed she had had to dodge sniper 
fire at an airport overseass while serving as First Lady. Video of her 
getting off the plane showed her walking calmly up to a little girl and 
accepting a bouquet. What had happened was that she had conflated news 
reports of snipers somewhere nearby with what happened to her. I have 
little doubt that's what happened with President Trump when he said 
Moslems in New Jersey celebrated in the streets on 911. He got mixed up 
with reports of people in egypt and Iran celebrating on 911.  When 
Hillary Clinton was shown evidence that she hadn't been under sniper 
fire, she said she must have misremembered and apologized. Donald Trump 
claimed the media was out to get him.

It is important for those of us who love the United States to not give 
in to this garbage about the free press not being trustworthy.  They 
make mistakes. Sometimes they are slanted. But we've survived these 
inperfections, and that is all they are, for over 200 years. It's every 
American's patriotic duty to not give into this stuff.

On 01/23/2017 12:30 PM, Jen via nfb-talk wrote:
> How big was the inauguration crowd? From the TV coverage / cheering afte
the
> swearing-in, it sounded pretty big...
>
> To add to your "free press" comment, did you hear Ms. Conway's
"alternative
> facts" statement last night? I didn't know whether to laugh or cry...
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Cc: John Heim <john at johnheim.com>
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> The myth the free press cannot be trusted comes primarily from
> conservatives, but I will acknowledge some liberals are just as bad.
>
> No matter where it comes from, The point is it's just an excuse people
give
> for believing what they want to believe; this is Un-American. Right now,
for
> purely political purposes, President Trump is trying to undermine
confidence
> in the  free press. He doesn't want to believe his inauguration didn't set
> an attendance record, so purely for his own political gain, he is
> undermining confidence in the free press; I say that is an act of
disloyalty
> to the United States Of America.
>
>
> On 01/23/2017 10:51 AM, Marianne Haas via nfb-talk wrote:
>> Hi John,
>> I respectfully disagree with you regarding the press.  I listen to both
>> conservatives and liberals and then make up my mind.  I also listen to
>> programs on the internet from other countries.  Sometimes, I get more
>> balanced information about the US from listening to stations from other
>> countries.I feel that both sides, conservatives and liberals, accuse the
>> other side of faux news.  I feel that we have to listen to different
>> stations and points of view to get a balanced picture of what is going
on.
>>
>> Let me share about what one of my good friends said:
>> This man was in the classified world in the military.  He saw a lot of
>> things that were contrary of what we hear.  Some of it he still cannot
> talk
>> about as it is still classified.  He often says that he does not believe
>> what the Government says until it is officially denied.  By the way, he
> did
>> not vote for Trump either.
>>
>> I do not want to say this to be divisive.  I believe in civilized
>> conversations, both in person and in emails.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Marianne
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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Heim
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>> The idea that the free press can't be trusted is bullstuffpromoted by
> people
>> who don't like the truth. And it's Un-American bullstuff at that.
>> Democracy cannot work without a free press. When you tell people they
> can't
>> trust the free press, you're telling them that they can't possibly have
> any
>> way to know which way to vote. That's Un-American.
>>
>> This is just a myth fostered by conservatives  who think anybody who
> doesn't
>> automatically agree with them is a liberal. If you insist on actually
> having
>> facts before making up your mind, that makes you a liberal.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/22/2017 09:30 PM, Gail the U. S. Male via nfb-talk wrote:
>>> See, my point exactly!  You shouldn't believe everything you read on
>>> facebook. Or, anywhere on the net without substantiating it first,
>>> using reputable sources, which the press isn't! They're mostly rabid
>>> liberals!  I went through that same indoctrination in College
>>> journalism classes, but was smart enough to see through all the manure.
>>>
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>>> Heim via nfb-talk
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>>>
>>> Snopes says this rumor, that Trump's "Make America Great Again" hats
>>> were made overseas, is false:
>>> http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-hat-china/
>>>
>>> Snopes is a great source for more info on this kind of thing. That
>>> explanation has the ring of truth. Somebody in China is making hats
>>> that say, "Make America Great Again", but not Trump.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/22/2017 02:47 PM, ed meskys via nfb-talk wrote:
>>>> My wife read on Facebook that the Trump "make america great again"
>>>> hats were made in Viet Nam. Why is he sending work overseas? How is
>>>> that making America great?
>>>> Ed Meskys
>>>>
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