[nfb-talk] Trumpcare

Jack Heim john at johnheim.com
Fri Jul 14 17:06:19 UTC 2017


Well, it is fair to say that there will be tens of thousands of 
premature deaths if the Republicans get their bill passed. The death 
rate dropped a huge amount after Massachusets passed it's health care 
bill. Estimates based on that predict about 28,000 additional deaths per 
year based on the House version of the Republican health care bill. As a 
mathematician and a quasi-scientist, I know those numbers are very 
rough. But to say that tens of thousands of people will die every year 
is not unrealistic.

I'd like everyone on this list to think about that... Our 
representatives in Washington are considering makeing changes to our 
system that would cause tens of thousands of premature deaths every 
year. How in the world did we get into a position where legislation like 
that is even contemplated?


On 07/14/2017 11:03 AM, Karen Rose wrote:
 > I am in similar position to yours – I get healthcare through the work 
I do and have done. I too would benefit from the Republican murder of 20 
Dash 24,000,000 people. However I do not want to be a part of The murder 
of others simply so that I pay less. Also people do not really 
understand that no one benefits from the illness of others. The fact 
that I have insurance and can see a doctor if needed does not prevent me 
from contracting a contagious disease from someone who cannot. Karen
 >
 > Sent from my iPhone
 >
 >> On Jul 14, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Jack Heim via nfb-talk 
<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
 >>
 >> From Paul Krugman's column in the New York Times today:
 >> "Conservative ideology always denied the proposition that people are 
entitled to health care; the Republican elite considered and still 
considers people on Medicaid, in particular, “takers” who are 
effectively stealing from the deserving rich."
 >> 
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/13/opinion/trumpcare-mitch-mcconnell-taxes.html?rref=collection%2Fcolumn%2Fpaul-krugman&action=click&contentCollection=opinion&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=collection#continues-post-newsletter
 >>
 >> The current version of the Republican health care bill has the 
change my Senator, Ron Johnson, and Senator Ted Cruz demanded -- it 
allows companies to charge extra or deny coverage to people with 
pre-existing conditions.  What kind of people could look at a bill that 
takes health care away from 20+ million people and decide that their 
main problem with it is that it requires insurance companies to accept 
people with pre-existing conditions?
 >>
 >> Krugman is absolutely right. This has next to nothing to do with the 
alledged flaws in Obamacare. Various versions of the Republican health 
care bills have taken coverage away from 20 million to 24 million 
people. With their darwinistic view of the world, they think that's a 
good thing. The issue here really is whether we as a country are better 
off making sure people get health care or not. But you can't make this a 
stronger nation by taking health care away from 20+ million people.
 >>
 >> Note: I get health care through my work. I am not personally a 
Medicaid recipient. I would actually benefit financially from the 
Republican health care bill.
 >> --
 >> John Heim
 >> john at johnheim.com
 >> * The Electoral College is like giving one team 6 points for a 
touchdown and the other team 4. *
 >>
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