[NFB-Talk] Advice Not Resentment

d m gina dmgina at samobile.net
Fri Mar 26 02:45:15 UTC 2021


When you shopp that long, then you have to put it all away.
Oh me.
Dar
Original message:
> We just did a wal-mart run today.  We were there with a personal 
> shopper for a couple of hours, and had no problems. We were wearing 
> masks, and Covid is not a huge problem in rural Western Nebraska

> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 5:55 PM, Peter Donahue via nFB-Talk 
>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>> Hello Stacy and everyone,

>> "Toolbox" is the operative word here.

>> Peter Donahue


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Stacie 
>> Gallegos via nFB-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 5:30 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Stacie Gallegos <shardy at nfbtx.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] Advice Not Resentment

>> Hello Pam and all,

>> Pam, please feel free to continue posting your questions regarding the 
>> ways blind people get day to day tasks done. Peter, I don’t know about 
>> anybody else on this list, but I personally feel you are being 
>> extremely rude. While individuals who are blind have blindness in 
>> common, I would be totally shocked if all blind people had identical 
>> tool boxes. What works for one individual might not work for another. I 
>> would like to ask that if you don’t have anything nice to say  that you 
>> consider not saying anything at all. I thought lists like this were 
>> here for people to ask questions without being judged. Kind regards.

>>>> Stacie Gallegos
>> President: National Federation of the Blind Houston Chapter
>> Secretary: Texas Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Secretary: Texas Parents of Blind Children

>> E: shardy at nfbtx.org           H: stacieandcash at gmail.com
>> M: 346.704.0190               O: 832.639.4477

>> "Live the life you want: Blindness is not what holds you back”




>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Pamela Dominguez via nFB-Talk 
>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>> I sure don’t know what you are talking about.  Pam.

>>> From: Peter Donahue via nFB-Talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 5:02 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Cc: pmdonahue2 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: [NFB-Talk] Advice Not Resentment

>>> Hello Pam,

>>>                Here again is another example of a blind person creating 
>>> their own problems. Decide not to feel resentful and follow our 
>>> suggestions so you can solve your shopping and other life issues 
>>> challenging you. Many sighted people also chose to feel resentful and 
>>> are now paying the price of harboring such feelings towards those 
>>> trying to help them. Don’t follow in their whose.

>>> Peter Donahue


>>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Pamela
>>> Dominguez via nFB-Talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 2:36 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About Walmart
>>> Shopping Experience

>>> I resent you telling me what I have to do!  Pam.

>>> From: Peter Donahue via nFB-Talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 3:11 PM
>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>> Cc: pmdonahue2 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About Walmart
>>> Shopping Experience

>>> Hello Pam and everyone,

>>>                Get one and learn to use it! Refusing to do so is 
>>> another example of a blind person creating their own problems.

>>> Peter Donahue



>>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Pamela
>>> Dominguez via nFB-Talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 8:54 AM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About Walmart
>>> Shopping Experience

>>> Yes, but what if you don’t have a smart phone?  How about a computer?  Pam.

>>> From: Karen Rose via nFB-Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 11:28 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>> Cc: Karen Rose
>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About Walmart
>>> Shopping Experience

>>> Walmart is definitely on the Instacart list of stores available. You 
>>> may want to consider shopping through Instacart on Walmart. Several 
>>> years ago, I spent considerable time helping Instacart become fully 
>>> accessible through its app. End it has remained completely accessible, 
>>> at least using voiceover.

>>> Karen Rose MFT/LPCC www.career-therapy.net


>>>>> On Mar 23, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Mike Capelle via nFB-Talk 
>>>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>> 
>>>> It is because of covid, I am not going to make a fuss over it, I will 
>>>> just use AIRA, or bring a sighted person with me.
>>>> No big  deal.

>>>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Zachary N.
>>>> Griego-Dreicer via nFB-Talk
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:36 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer <zdreicer at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About
>>>> Walmart Shopping Experience

>>>> Hi, I a sorry to hear of your experience. I have actually not going 
>>>> into grocery stores since the start of the pandemic. But my parents 
>>>> have occasionally. Curb-side at Walmart has been a big hit for my 
>>>> area…the amount of times we’ve gotten “Out of stock” or “we can 
>>>> substitute with”… is far outweighed by the amount of times we will have 
>>>> the order right on the 1st try without ever actually going in. I would 
>>>> definitely understand if you would rather remain in person when doing 
>>>> your shopping though. And as for that, I would think that’s just an 
>>>> associate having an issue. Regardless of this we still need to buy 
>>>> groceries so you did the right thing by contacting a supervisor. I 
>>>> would encourage you to continue doing so.



>>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro 13



>>>>> On Mar 23, 2021, at 17:14, Judy Jones via nFB-Talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>>>>> Hi, All,

>>>>> Today, my husband was denied customer service shopping assistance at 
>>>>> the Walmart, located in Mt. Vernon, Washington.

>>>>> The only other time in our lives I can remember being turned away from 
>>>>> shopping at a store, was in a neighborhood where we’d just bought our 
>>>>> first house in 1980.  It was a Winn Dixie, and I stopped there in the 
>>>>> evening for groceries.

>>>>> However, when I explained that I worked during the day and this was the 
>>>>> only time I could come, right away, they found someone to shop with me, 
>>>>> and we never had any issues with that store or any other ever since.

>>>>> So, today’s experience was very surprising.

>>>>> I would like to know of anyone’s personal shopping experience at the 
>>>>> physical store, and how much of this shopping assistance denial is tied 
>>>>> to a possible Covid policy of Walmart, or if our particular store is 
>>>>> simply not providing reasonable accommodations.

>>>>> We have no problems with any other store in the area:  Costco, Safeway, 
>>>>> Hagen, Pioneer Market, to name just a few.  Thanks for perspective and 
>>>>> comments.

>>>>> See my husband’s e-mail below.

>>>>> Judy

>>>>> From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>> Jones via NFBWATlk
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 3:55 PM
>>>>> To: nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: Chris Jones <clj53787 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About Walmart Shopping
>>>>> Experience

>>>>> Dear Listers,
>>>>> This is Chris Jones from Sedro-Woolley.
>>>>> Earlier this afternoon I went to Walmart to pick up a very few items 
>>>>> and to get some Subway sandwiches.
>>>>> I met a greeter who found me a young lady who gave me some very strange 
>>>>> information.
>>>>> She indicated that Walmart no longer provides customer assistance in 
>>>>> shopping and that everything needs to be handled on-line.
>>>>> I was told that this has been their policy for somewhat over a year.
>>>>> I was shocked, but went ahead and asked this lady to show me the Subway 
>>>>> area, which she did.
>>>>> I completed that portion of shopping and, when I got home, called a 
>>>>> manager of Walmart at the Mount Vernon store.
>>>>> He explained that, due to Covid restrictions, an associate could not be 
>>>>> involved with such a shopping trip for any more than 15 minutes.
>>>>> I asked if I had a short list, if someone could obtain products for me.
>>>>> He said that if I needed a very few items he could probably grant me an 
>>>>> exception to policy.
>>>>> I do not regularly shop Walmart and I have never found such a reception 
>>>>> at Costco, Fred Meyer, Safeway or any other store which I frequent.
>>>>> Is there anyone who can explain this type of treatment to me? Is this a 
>>>>> Walmart thing, or does this occur at many other stores where folks shop?
>>>>> Feel free to respond here, or if you'd like to e-mail me privately, my 
>>>>> e-mail is clj53787 at gmail.com.
>>>>> Thank you, one and all.
>>>>> Chris Jones
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