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Randy George
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> 1. Re: Advice Not Resentment (Devin Prater)
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> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 06:09:04 -0500
> From: Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] Advice Not Resentment
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> There was one time, when I went to Walmart with a group of other people,
> when wehad an hour to shop. I sat there at customer support, in my mask,
> for that whole hour, with them assuring me that they?d get someone to help
> me, but no one did. In the end, I left that store with nothing that I came
> to get. Ah well, less money for them that day. But, other times have been
> better. They just need more customer support staff, trained to work with
> people with disabilities. Then again, all their staff should be trained to
> work with people with disabilities.
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>> On March 26, 2021 2:33:32 AM Judy Jones via nFB-Talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
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>> I'm thinking our issue was with this particular store, as we have shopped
>> Walmart in other locations with no problems. But since others had had
>> in-store issues, I was wondering how common they were.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Gail Crowe via
>> nFB-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 5:16 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Gail Crowe <gailcrowe1959 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] Advice Not Resentment
>>
>> We just did a wal-mart run today. We were there with a personal shopper
>> for a couple of hours, and had no problems. We were wearing masks, and
>> Covid is not a huge problem in rural Western Nebraska
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 5:55 PM, Peter Donahue via nFB-Talk
>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Hello Stacy and everyone,
>>>
>>> "Toolbox" is the operative word here.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Stacie
>>> Gallegos via nFB-Talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 5:30 PM
>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Stacie Gallegos <shardy at nfbtx.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] Advice Not Resentment
>>>
>>> Hello Pam and all,
>>>
>>> Pam, please feel free to continue posting your questions regarding the ways
>>> blind people get day to day tasks done. Peter, I don?t know about anybody
>>> else on this list, but I personally feel you are being extremely rude.
>>> While individuals who are blind have blindness in common, I would be
>>> totally shocked if all blind people had identical tool boxes. What works
>>> for one individual might not work for another. I would like to ask that if
>>> you don?t have anything nice to say that you consider not saying anything
>>> at all. I thought lists like this were here for people to ask questions
>>> without being judged. Kind regards.
>>>
>>> ?
>>> Stacie Gallegos
>>> President: National Federation of the Blind Houston Chapter
>>> Secretary: Texas Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Secretary: Texas Parents of Blind Children
>>>
>>> E: shardy at nfbtx.org H: stacieandcash at gmail.com
>>> M: 346.704.0190 O: 832.639.4477
>>>
>>> "Live the life you want: Blindness is not what holds you back?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Pamela Dominguez via nFB-Talk
>>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I sure don?t know what you are talking about. Pam.
>>>>
>>>> From: Peter Donahue via nFB-Talk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 5:02 PM
>>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>>> Cc: pmdonahue2 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: [NFB-Talk] Advice Not Resentment
>>>>
>>>> Hello Pam,
>>>>
>>>> Here again is another example of a blind person creating their own
>>>> problems. Decide not to feel resentful and follow our suggestions so you
>>>> can solve your shopping and other life issues challenging you. Many sighted
>>>> people also chose to feel resentful and are now paying the price of
>>>> harboring such feelings towards those trying to help them. Don?t follow in
>>>> their whose.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Pamela
>>>> Dominguez via nFB-Talk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 2:36 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About
>>>> Walmart Shopping Experience
>>>>
>>>> I resent you telling me what I have to do! Pam.
>>>>
>>>> From: Peter Donahue via nFB-Talk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 3:11 PM
>>>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>>>> Cc: pmdonahue2 at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About
>>>> Walmart Shopping Experience
>>>>
>>>> Hello Pam and everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Get one and learn to use it! Refusing to do so is another example of a
>>>> blind person creating their own problems.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Pamela
>>>> Dominguez via nFB-Talk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 8:54 AM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Pamela Dominguez <pammygirl99 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About
>>>> Walmart Shopping Experience
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but what if you don?t have a smart phone? How about a computer? Pam.
>>>>
>>>> From: Karen Rose via nFB-Talk
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 11:28 PM
>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>> Cc: Karen Rose
>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About
>>>> Walmart Shopping Experience
>>>>
>>>> Walmart is definitely on the Instacart list of stores available. You may
>>>> want to consider shopping through Instacart on Walmart. Several years ago,
>>>> I spent considerable time helping Instacart become fully accessible through
>>>> its app. End it has remained completely accessible, at least using voiceover.
>>>>
>>>> Karen Rose MFT/LPCC www.career-therapy.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2021, at 7:38 PM, Mike Capelle via nFB-Talk
>>>>>> <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>> It is because of covid, I am not going to make a fuss over it, I will just
>>>>> use AIRA, or bring a sighted person with me.
>>>>> No big deal.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: nFB-Talk <nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Zachary N.
>>>>> Griego-Dreicer via nFB-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:36 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer <zdreicer at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Talk] [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About
>>>>> Walmart Shopping Experience
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, I a sorry to hear of your experience. I have actually not going into
>>>>> grocery stores since the start of the pandemic. But my parents have
>>>>> occasionally. Curb-side at Walmart has been a big hit for my area?the
>>>>> amount of times we?ve gotten ?Out of stock? or ?we can substitute with?? is
>>>>> far outweighed by the amount of times we will have the order right on the
>>>>> 1st try without ever actually going in. I would definitely understand if
>>>>> you would rather remain in person when doing your shopping though. And as
>>>>> for that, I would think that?s just an associate having an issue.
>>>>> Regardless of this we still need to buy groceries so you did the right
>>>>> thing by contacting a supervisor. I would encourage you to continue doing so.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Macbook Pro 13
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2021, at 17:14, Judy Jones via nFB-Talk <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today, my husband was denied customer service shopping assistance at the
>>>>>> Walmart, located in Mt. Vernon, Washington.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only other time in our lives I can remember being turned away from
>>>>>> shopping at a store, was in a neighborhood where we?d just bought our first
>>>>>> house in 1980. It was a Winn Dixie, and I stopped there in the evening for
>>>>>> groceries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, when I explained that I worked during the day and this was the
>>>>>> only time I could come, right away, they found someone to shop with me, and
>>>>>> we never had any issues with that store or any other ever since.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, today?s experience was very surprising.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to know of anyone?s personal shopping experience at the
>>>>>> physical store, and how much of this shopping assistance denial is tied to
>>>>>> a possible Covid policy of Walmart, or if our particular store is simply
>>>>>> not providing reasonable accommodations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have no problems with any other store in the area: Costco, Safeway,
>>>>>> Hagen, Pioneer Market, to name just a few. Thanks for perspective and
>>>>>> comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See my husband?s e-mail below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Judy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: NFBWATlk <nfbwatlk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Chris
>>>>>> Jones via NFBWATlk
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 3:55 PM
>>>>>> To: nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Cc: Chris Jones <clj53787 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [NFBWATlk] Note From Chris Jones About Walmart Shopping
>>>>>> Experience
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Dear Listers,
>>>>>> This is Chris Jones from Sedro-Woolley.
>>>>>> Earlier this afternoon I went to Walmart to pick up a very few items and to
>>>>>> get some Subway sandwiches.
>>>>>> I met a greeter who found me a young lady who gave me some very strange
>>>>>> information.
>>>>>> She indicated that Walmart no longer provides customer assistance in
>>>>>> shopping and that everything needs to be handled on-line.
>>>>>> I was told that this has been their policy for somewhat over a year.
>>>>>> I was shocked, but went ahead and asked this lady to show me the Subway
>>>>>> area, which she did.
>>>>>> I completed that portion of shopping and, when I got home, called a manager
>>>>>> of Walmart at the Mount Vernon store.
>>>>>> He explained that, due to Covid restrictions, an associate could not be
>>>>>> involved with such a shopping trip for any more than 15 minutes.
>>>>>> I asked if I had a short list, if someone could obtain products for me.
>>>>>> He said that if I needed a very few items he could probably grant me an
>>>>>> exception to policy.
>>>>>> I do not regularly shop Walmart and I have never found such a reception at
>>>>>> Costco, Fred Meyer, Safeway or any other store which I frequent.
>>>>>> Is there anyone who can explain this type of treatment to me? Is this a
>>>>>> Walmart thing, or does this occur at many other stores where folks shop?
>>>>>> Feel free to respond here, or if you'd like to e-mail me privately, my
>>>>>> e-mail is clj53787 at gmail.com.
>>>>>> Thank you, one and all.
>>>>>> Chris Jones
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