[Nfbc-info] Nfbc-info Digest, Vol 126, Issue 23
Dennis Russak
russakdennis at gmail.com
Mon Nov 23 20:02:27 UTC 2015
Good morning Everyone,
I have been studying the last several NFBC-Digests, with a great deal of surprise dealing with supposed emails from Rob Kaiser depicting some offensive matters, which unfortunately had to result in his name being removed from the list, at least until all the facts can be uncovered. While the messages themselves were not meant for our list-serve, I had to take note from the email from Illinois who said she has known him for a long time and didn't consider it like him to send that kind of thing out, that the possibility was that his email service has been hacked, or there could be other types of problems. But the fact remains, that President Willows had to take him off our list until we really find out what the truth really is.
I also read about the problem up in Canada where a blind girl got her cane rights taken away by the school because of unnecessary problems that for the most part do not exist. I hope our fellow federationists in the NATIONAL Federation of the blind of Canada will be able to get involved. Anyway, those are my thoughts.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
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> 1. Re: Can you believe this? (Charles Krugman)
> 2. Re: Can you believe this? (Michael Hingson)
> 3. Re: thoughts (Michael Hingson)
> 4. My Very Own Thanksgiving Poem (Nancy Lynn)
> 5. Re: thoughts (Lauren Merryfield)
> 6. petition for blind girl needing to keep her cane/Canada
> (Lauren Merryfield)
> 7. Re: petition for blind girl needing to keep her cane/Canada
> (Nancy Lynn)
> 8. Re: Nfbc-info Digest, Vol 126, Issue 22 (Jordan Mirander)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:52:03 com0800
> From: "Charles Krugman" <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Can you believe this?
> Message-ID: <FBCD4658659049BAA3B7D96EA08FEB15 at Spike>
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>
> Sadly this is a reminder that Canada and many other foreign countries do
> not offer the degree of protection for disabled people in educational and
> other settings as we do in the U.S. In Canada for example protection is left
> up to each province and to my knowledge there is no centralized legislation
> such as the ADA or Section 504 as we have here in the U.S.
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Hingson via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: 'Ationfb of California List'
> Cc: Michael Hingson
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Can you believe this?
>
> Blind girl banned from using cane at school for health and safety reasons
>
> Yahoo Canada News — Wed, 18 Nov, 2015
>
> A mother of a blind seven-year-old girl has said she is absolutely livid
> after her daughter was banned from using her walking cane at school — in
> case she TRIPS up teachers and pupils.
> Lily-Grace Hooper suffered a stroke when she was just four days old, leaving
> her virtually blind and only able to see light in one eye.
> However, she received an essentially lifeline earlier this year when a
> charity donated her a fibre-glass walking cane — after she started using
> cardboard tubes to guide herself at home.
> But she has been banned from using the device at her primary school — after
> a risk assessment was carried out — and said it posed a high risk to others
> around her.
> Instead, Lily-Grace has been told she should instead have full adult support
> at all times — and has to walk carefully.
> The decision by Hambrook Primary School and the Sensory Support Service -
> which does assessments for schools — has infuriated mum Kristy.
> Kristy, 38, said: When the school told me she can no longer bring her cane
> into school, I just thought this must be health and safety gone mad.
> She hasnt had any problems with any of the other students, and none of the
> parents have complained about it — in fact, they have all been very
> supportive.
> I dont understand where the school is coming from.
>
> Lily-Grace has taken to the cane very quickly, and she needs it as she
> travels to school, walks to the playground, or just being in school.
>
> I am absolutely livid. What about the health and safety of my girl? I like
> school, they are a good school, but this really is very poor advice.
>
> Its just ridiculous. If you took a walking cane away from a blind adult, you
> would say that was discrimination. Its the same here.
>
> Kristy is worried that her daughter will become dependent on having someone
> show her around, while a helper would also set her daughter apart from the
> rest of her class.
>
> She added: It is a disability, but I want to celebrate it and make sure she
> can become independent.
>
> Sarah Murray, founder of Common Sense Canes, who donated a stick to
> Lily-Grace, described her treatment as absolute nonsense.
>
> Ive heard about this health and safety reasons, and I just cannot fathom
> what the school is thinking. Why are they taking a cane away from a little
> girl?
>
> School head Jo Dent has since said they would discuss the situation with
> Kristy.
>
> She said: The schools mobility officer raised health and safety issues
> around the new cane following a recent risk assessment.
>
> We have to consider all of our pupils, so it is important that we have an
> opportunity to discuss the situation before we make any decisions.
>
> We are very keen to resolve this issue as soon as possible and have been
> actively seeking to engage with the parent to bring this to an agreeable
> conclusion.
>
> The pupil has not been banned from bringing in their cane, we have simply
> asked them to not use it around school as a temporary measure until we have
> the chance to meet with the parent and discuss the situation.
>
> It was initially hoped that we would have this resolved within a day or two.
>
> https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blind-girl-banned-using-cane-161536749.html
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:36:22 com0800
> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
> To: "'Ationfb of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Can you believe this?
> Message-ID: <007e01d124ad$0c89bab0$259d3010$@michaelhingson.com>
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> Agreed. I have sent the article to some Canadians friends who I hope can
> help.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Charles
> Krugman via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:52 AM
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Charles Krugman <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Can you believe this?
>
> Sadly this is a reminder that Canada and many other foreign countries do
> not offer the degree of protection for disabled people in educational and
> other settings as we do in the U.S. In Canada for example protection is left
> up to each province and to my knowledge there is no centralized legislation
> such as the ADA or Section 504 as we have here in the U.S.
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Hingson via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: 'Ationfb of California List'
> Cc: Michael Hingson
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] Can you believe this?
>
> Blind girl banned from using cane at school for health and safety reasons
>
> Yahoo Canada News — Wed, 18 Nov, 2015
>
> A mother of a blind seven-year-old girl has said she is absolutely livid
> after her daughter was banned from using her walking cane at school — in
> case she TRIPS up teachers and pupils.
> Lily-Grace Hooper suffered a stroke when she was just four days old, leaving
> her virtually blind and only able to see light in one eye.
> However, she received an essentially lifeline earlier this year when a
> charity donated her a fibre-glass walking cane — after she started using
> cardboard tubes to guide herself at home.
> But she has been banned from using the device at her primary school — after
> a risk assessment was carried out — and said it posed a high risk to others
> around her.
> Instead, Lily-Grace has been told she should instead have full adult support
> at all times — and has to walk carefully.
> The decision by Hambrook Primary School and the Sensory Support Service -
> which does assessments for schools — has infuriated mum Kristy.
> Kristy, 38, said: When the school told me she can no longer bring her cane
> into school, I just thought this must be health and safety gone mad.
> She hasnt had any problems with any of the other students, and none of the
> parents have complained about it — in fact, they have all been very
> supportive.
> I dont understand where the school is coming from.
>
> Lily-Grace has taken to the cane very quickly, and she needs it as she
> travels to school, walks to the playground, or just being in school.
>
> I am absolutely livid. What about the health and safety of my girl? I like
> school, they are a good school, but this really is very poor advice.
>
> Its just ridiculous. If you took a walking cane away from a blind adult, you
> would say that was discrimination. Its the same here.
>
> Kristy is worried that her daughter will become dependent on having someone
> show her around, while a helper would also set her daughter apart from the
> rest of her class.
>
> She added: It is a disability, but I want to celebrate it and make sure she
> can become independent.
>
> Sarah Murray, founder of Common Sense Canes, who donated a stick to
> Lily-Grace, described her treatment as absolute nonsense.
>
> Ive heard about this health and safety reasons, and I just cannot fathom
> what the school is thinking. Why are they taking a cane away from a little
> girl?
>
> School head Jo Dent has since said they would discuss the situation with
> Kristy.
>
> She said: The schools mobility officer raised health and safety issues
> around the new cane following a recent risk assessment.
>
> We have to consider all of our pupils, so it is important that we have an
> opportunity to discuss the situation before we make any decisions.
>
> We are very keen to resolve this issue as soon as possible and have been
> actively seeking to engage with the parent to bring this to an agreeable
> conclusion.
>
> The pupil has not been banned from bringing in their cane, we have simply
> asked them to not use it around school as a temporary measure until we have
> the chance to meet with the parent and discuss the situation.
>
> It was initially hoped that we would have this resolved within a day or two.
>
> https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blind-girl-banned-using-cane-161536749.html
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:39:58 com0800
> From: "Michael Hingson" <mike at michaelhingson.com>
> To: "'Ationfb of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
> Message-ID: <007f01d124ad$8d843910$a88cab30$@michaelhingson.com>
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> Agreed. Rob should respond in some fashion.
>
> It is hard to believe Rob intentionally would send out such a message. He
> has been criticized a bit for other messages he has sent as some feel they
> are off topic. Even so, I hope he acknowledges this issue and that Mary
> gives him the opportunity to do so.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Charles
> Krugman via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Charles Krugman <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
>
> what has happened here is that everything on Rob's email list got this
> message including this list serve. I have been receiving messages
> individually from everyone who individually responded to the message because
> they are replying to all instead of replying to sender unless this is
> occurring as a result of some malware which might be a possibility. I for
> one have not received any explanatory email from Rob apologizing or
> justifying why this message was sent which leads me to believe that there
> may be a computer problem.
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 8:47 AM
> To: NFB of California List
> Cc: Nancy Lynn
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
>
> This whole thoughts thing is confusing. Sometimes I get emails with that
> word as the subject line, but it doesn't show the nfbc indicator. Sometimes,
> as with this email, it does show nfbc. I don't want to leave the real nfbc
> list, but I'd like to get off whatever list just shows the 1-word subject
> line. Somebody please clear this up? Thanks.
>
>
>
> Keep smiling. People will wonder what you're up to.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 10:43 AM
> To: Leslie Hamric be Susan J Young
> Cc: Nancy Lynn be Robert Martin be Marilyn Moore be Linda Mentink be Nicki Keck
> be roda woolman be Shirly Catz be Robert Kuehn be Joanne Jordan be prayer at fumco.
> org be Kelly Pierce be Mike Bartell be Kay Brown be Bonita Rich be Sugar be Chris
> Greulich be Bill Reif be Michael Gail be Pamela at DOR Chase be Rochelle Houston be
> Steve Olear be Rob Kaiser be Gina Falvo be Lin H. be Daniel Love Glazer be Paul
> Baker be Don Gillmore be Delia Garcia be Carla Lewis be Betsy Ross Miale be Mary
> Watkins be Edwin be Michael Hingson be Ron and anita Kelley be NOMC Lisamaria
> Martinez be Michael Mills be Melissa Earley be Mike Freeman be ramona. longoria
> be helga. schreiber26 at gmail. com be Jo Elizabeth Pinto be Olga Peterkin be Sue
> Sweetman be Mat Nelson be Jemal Powell be Tom and Sue Kroshell be Maureen
> Johnson be Brian be josh lester be Rose Sloan be Steven Hastalis be Timothy Clark
> Music be Jim Kaiser be Lin Hunnicutt be Lee Bradley be Peter Joseph be Lee
> Bradley be NFB of California List be Wendy Burchik be cheryl thurston be
> Cathleen at DOR Coombs-Stephens be David Meyer be Rick Watson be Mark Schafer be
> Hilda Sandifer be Pittman Enterprises & Associates be Patricia Kaiser be Kelsey
> Nicolay be Tina Thomas be Sue Mueller be Sandra Gayer be Glenn be Toby Weissman be
> Eric Calhoun be John and Deanna Bates be Lisa Bonderson be Becky Frankeberger be
> Kevan Worley be Phil Brayden be Merv Keck be Danyelle Cerillo be Gary Barsch be
> Kim Ha be Snow White Dove
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
>
> Me too. Take me off this list as well.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 17:23:06 com0600
> From: "Nancy Lynn" <freespirit.stl at att.net>
> To: "mcb chat" <chat at moblind.org>, "nfbmo list" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>,
> "NFBC List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>, "Blind-x Listserv"
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> Subject: [Nfbc-info] My Very Own Thanksgiving Poem
> Message-ID: <0AF47C4372394F8394E7551A4EE2355D at nancyPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=by iso-8859-1"
>
> My Very Own Thanksgiving Poem
> by Nancy Lynn
> To all of my friends both near and far,
> To all of my loved ones. You know who you are,
> Be grateful for all of that stuffing and turkey,
> For some people, we know, will just have beef jerky.
> So eat all of those cranberries, potatoes and pies,
> >From your mouth to your stomach, to your waist and your thighs.
> And then when you're finished, go watch some football.
> Now dash away, dash away, dash away all.
> To living room, parlor, playroom or den
> Then back to the kitchen for leftovers again.
> When you've eaten it all and there's just nothing left,
> Stand up and salute, and give thanks to the chef.
> I'm grateful for sky, for grass and for trees.
> It's good that, at my age, I still have my own knees.
> My bones, they do ache, and my body is flabby,
> But my life is still better than the ones in Dear Abby.
>
> I'm grateful for friends, and the ones that I love
> For I know with no doubt they were sent from above.
>
> Whenever you finish your Thanksgiving plate,
> Give lots of praise. Tell the chef it was great.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 15:29:14 com0800
> From: "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren at catlines.com>
> To: "'Ationfb of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
> Message-ID: <001a01d124b4$6efb4810$4cf1d830$@catlines.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=by iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi,
> I emailed Rob personally, stating that the prayer he sent was really nice
> but I did not appreciate the "thoughts" email. He wrote back and said he had
> gotten the point. That was not exactly an apology, nor does it suggest that
> there was a malware problem. It doesn't, however, say there wasn't one
> either. So we still don't know. I only received the one copy from this NFBC
> list, which was more than I needed to get.
> Thanks,
> Lauren
>
> Blessings in Jesus? name:
> My digital evangelism blog is at:
> www dot ask in jesus name dot org (you need to retype it)
> Psalm 34:1-2 I will bless the Lord at all times: his praise shall
> continually be in my mouth. My soul shall make her boast in the Lord: the
> humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.?
> Advice from my catscc"meow when you feel like it.?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Charles
> Krugman via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
> To: NFB of California List <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Charles Krugman <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
>
> what has happened here is that everything on Rob's email list got this
> message including this list serve. I have been receiving messages
> individually from everyone who individually responded to the message because
> they are replying to all instead of replying to sender unless this is
> occurring as a result of some malware which might be a possibility. I for
> one have not received any explanatory email from Rob apologizing or
> justifying why this message was sent which leads me to believe that there
> may be a computer problem.
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 8:47 AM
> To: NFB of California List
> Cc: Nancy Lynn
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
>
> This whole thoughts thing is confusing. Sometimes I get emails with that
> word as the subject line, but it doesn't show the nfbc indicator. Sometimes,
> as with this email, it does show nfbc. I don't want to leave the real nfbc
> list, but I'd like to get off whatever list just shows the 1-word subject
> line. Somebody please clear this up? Thanks.
>
>
>
> Keep smiling. People will wonder what you're up to.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 10:43 AM
> To: Leslie Hamric be Susan J Young
> Cc: Nancy Lynn be Robert Martin be Marilyn Moore be Linda Mentink be Nicki Keck
> be roda woolman be Shirly Catz be Robert Kuehn be Joanne Jordan be prayer at fumco.
> org be Kelly Pierce be Mike Bartell be Kay Brown be Bonita Rich be Sugar be Chris
> Greulich be Bill Reif be Michael Gail be Pamela at DOR Chase be Rochelle Houston be
> Steve Olear be Rob Kaiser be Gina Falvo be Lin H. be Daniel Love Glazer be Paul
> Baker be Don Gillmore be Delia Garcia be Carla Lewis be Betsy Ross Miale be Mary
> Watkins be Edwin be Michael Hingson be Ron and anita Kelley be NOMC Lisamaria
> Martinez be Michael Mills be Melissa Earley be Mike Freeman be ramona. longoria
> be helga. schreiber26 at gmail. com be Jo Elizabeth Pinto be Olga Peterkin be Sue
> Sweetman be Mat Nelson be Jemal Powell be Tom and Sue Kroshell be Maureen
> Johnson be Brian be josh lester be Rose Sloan be Steven Hastalis be Timothy Clark
> Music be Jim Kaiser be Lin Hunnicutt be Lee Bradley be Peter Joseph be Lee
> Bradley be NFB of California List be Wendy Burchik be cheryl thurston be
> Cathleen at DOR Coombs-Stephens be David Meyer be Rick Watson be Mark Schafer be
> Hilda Sandifer be Pittman Enterprises & Associates be Patricia Kaiser be Kelsey
> Nicolay be Tina Thomas be Sue Mueller be Sandra Gayer be Glenn be Toby Weissman be
> Eric Calhoun be John and Deanna Bates be Lisa Bonderson be Becky Frankeberger be
> Kevan Worley be Phil Brayden be Merv Keck be Danyelle Cerillo be Gary Barsch be
> Kim Ha be Snow White Dove
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
>
> Me too. Take me off this list as well.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 15:47:08 com0800
> From: "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren at catlines.com>
> To: "'Ationfb of Washington Talk Mailing List'" <nfbwatlk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "'Ationfb of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] petition for blind girl needing to keep her
> cane/Canada
> Message-ID: <001b01d124b6$f207cba0$d61762e0$@catlines.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=by us-ascii"
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Hey,
>
>
>
> I just signed the petition "Headmaster of Hambrook Primary School: Hambrook
> Primary School: Lily-Grace Needs Her Long, White Cane at School!" and wanted
> to see if you could help by adding your name.
>
> https://www.change.org/p/headmaster-of-hambrook-primary-school-hambrook-prim
> ary-school-lily-grace-needs-her-long-white-cane-at-school"recruiter=43197064
> 2
> <https://www.change.org/p/headmaster-of-hambrook-primary-school-hambrook-pri
> mary-school-lily-grace-needs-her-long-white-cane-at-school"recruiter=4319706
> 42&utmlessource=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=shareancemail_respo
> nsive>
> &utmlessource=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=shareancemail_respons
> ive
>
> or:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ngtu7pn
>
>
>
>
>
> Our goal is to reach 1,500 signatures and we need more support. You can read
> more and sign the petition here:
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lauren
>
>
>
> Blessings in Jesus' name:
>
> My digital evangelism blog is at:
>
> www dot ask in jesus name dot org (you need to retype it)
>
> Psalm 34:1-2 I will bless the Lord at all times: his praise shall
> continually be in my mouth. My soul shall make her boast in the Lord: the
> humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.
>
> Advice from my catscc"meow when you feel like it."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 18:30:14 com0600
> From: "Nancy Lynn" <freespirit.stl at att.net>
> To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] petition for blind girl needing to keep her
> cane/Canada
> Message-ID: <00386C8C0C9E4A56AC9548552BC4EA6A at nancyPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=by iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> I clicked on the sign link and got a message saying they couldn't find the
> page.
>
>
>
> Keep smiling. People will wonder what you're up to.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lauren Merryfield via Nfbc-info
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:47 PM
> To: 'Ationfb of Washington Talk Mailing List'
> Cc: Lauren Merryfield be 'Ationfb of California List'
> Subject: [Nfbc-info] petition for blind girl needing to keep her cane/Canada
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Hey,
>
>
>
> I just signed the petition "Headmaster of Hambrook Primary School: Hambrook
> Primary School: Lily-Grace Needs Her Long, White Cane at School!" and wanted
> to see if you could help by adding your name.
>
> https://www.change.org/p/headmaster-of-hambrook-primary-school-hambrook-prim
> ary-school-lily-grace-needs-her-long-white-cane-at-school"recruiter=43197064
> 2
> <https://www.change.org/p/headmaster-of-hambrook-primary-school-hambrook-pri
> mary-school-lily-grace-needs-her-long-white-cane-at-school"recruiter=4319706
> 42&utmlessource=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=shareancemail_respo
> nsive>
> &utmlessource=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=shareancemail_respons
> ive
>
> or:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ngtu7pn
>
>
>
>
>
> Our goal is to reach 1,500 signatures and we need more support. You can read
> more and sign the petition here:
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lauren
>
>
>
> Blessings in Jesus' name:
>
> My digital evangelism blog is at:
>
> www dot ask in jesus name dot org (you need to retype it)
>
> Psalm 34:1-2 I will bless the Lord at all times: his praise shall
> continually be in my mouth. My soul shall make her boast in the Lord: the
> humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.
>
> Advice from my catscc"meow when you feel like it."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 22:53:35 com0800
> From: Jordan Mirander <jordanmirander at icloud.com>
> To: nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Nfbc-info Digest, Vol 126, Issue 22
> Message-ID: <E63DC0B6-82B1-49FE-B4E0-86BAD4FC906A at icloud.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> I knew it had to be a computer glitch or a scammer/hacker that just did not seem like it came from him. The type of stuff that I have receivedhas had a higher quality than this
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 21, 2015, at 9:48 AM, nfbc-info-request at nfbnet.org wrote:
> >
> > Send Nfbc-info mailing list submissions to
> > nfbc-info at nfbnet.org
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: thoughts (Charles Krugman)
> > 2. Re: Can you believe this? (Angela Fowler)
> > 3. Re: thoughts (Charles Krugman)
> > 4. the last poem Roy Avers read for us (Nancy Lynn)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 05:45:07 com0800
> > From: "Charles Krugman" <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "Susan J Young" <choirmusicsue at yahoo.com>, "Tiffany Manosh"
> > <tmanosh at gmail.com>, "Linda Mentink" <mentink at frontiernet.net>
> > Cc: "Rob Kaiser" <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>, "Becky Frankeberger"
> > <b.butterfly at comcast.net>, "Beth Koenig" <bethko at gmail.com>, "Betsy
> > Ross Miale" <betsylew at earthlink.net>, "Bill Reif"
> > <billreif at ameritech.net>, "Bonita Rich" <bkr123 at me.com>, "Brian"
> > <brian7 at ameritech.net>, "Carla Lewis" <carlalewis34 at gmail.com>,
> > "Cathleen at DOR Coombs-Stephens" <Cathleen.Coombs-Stephens at dor.ca.gov>,
> > "cheryl thurston" <cthurston74 at gmail.com>, "Chris Greulich"
> > <cmgreul at gmail.com>, "Daniel Love Glazer" <dglazer at hawk.iit.edu>,
> > "Danyelle Cerillo" <tapdanc10 at sbcglobal.net>, "David Meyer"
> > <datemeyer at sbcglobal.net>, "Delia Garcia"
> > <garcia-delia at sbcglobal.net>, "Don Gillmore" <don.gillmore at gmail.com>,
> > "Edwin" <conibodyworks at gmail.com>, "Eric Calhoun" <eric at pmpmail.com>,
> > "Ever Lee Hairston" <ever.hairston at gmail.com>, "Gary Barsch"
> > <garybarsch at icloud.com>, "Gina Falvo" <falvog at hotmail.com>, "Glenn"
> > <gmoore3rd at gmail.com>, "helga. schreiber26 at gmail. com"
> > <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>, "Hilda Sandifer"
> > <hildasandifer at yahoo.com>, "Hoby Wedler" <hobywedler at gmail.com>,
> > "Jemal Powell" <derek2872 at yahoo.com>, "Jim Kaiser"
> > <JKaiser at nakonlaw.com>, "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>,
> > "Joanne Jordan" <jordanj229 at verizon.net>, "John and Deanna Bates"
> > <jandk5 at cox.net>, "josh lester" <jlestermusic at gmail.com>, "Joy
> > Stigile" <joystigile at gmail.com>, "Karmalynne" <ladyklynne at gmail.com>,
> > "Kay Brown" <kayb649153 at aol.com>, "Kelly Pierce"
> > <kellytalk at gmail.com>, "Kelsey Nicolay" <piano.girl0299 at gmail.com>,
> > "Kevan Worley" <kevanworley at blindmerchants.org>, "Kia Vaca"
> > <chuyandkia at gmail.com>, "Kim Ha" <kim.ha at uboc.com>, "knitangelpm"
> > <knitangelpm at yahoo.com>, "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren at catlines.com>,
> > "Lee Bradley" <Lee.Bradley at scottishritechicago.org>, "Lee Bradley"
> > <leebradley4 at aol.com>, "Leslie Hamric" <lhamric930 at comcast.net>, "Lin
> > H." <iwannacu2 at sbcglobal.net>, "Lin Hunnicutt" <lhsh at sc.rr.com>, "Lisa
> > Bonderson" <lbonderson at labarrelaw.com>, "Lisa Irving"
> > <peacefulwoman89 at cox.net>, "Marilyn Moore"
> > <marilynmoore2593 at sbcglobal.net>, "Mark Schafer"
> > <MSchafer at juniorblind.org>, "Mary Watkins"
> > <mary.watkins at illinois.gov>, "Mary Willows" <mwillows at sbcglobal.net>,
> > "Mat Nelson" <mdn1232 at yahoo.com>, "Maureen Johnson"
> > <victorvilleumc at gmail.com>, "Melissa Earley"
> > <melissa at northbrookumc.org>, "Merv Keck" <blind5sparrow at gmail.com>,
> > "Michael Gail" <mfgail at aol.com>, "Michael Hingson"
> > <info at michaelhingson.com>, "Michael Mills"
> > <michaelmills574 at yahoo.com>, "Mike Bartell" <mbart1960 at gmail.com>,
> > "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>, "Nancy Lynn"
> > <freespirit.stl at att.net>, "NFB of California List"
> > <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>, "Nicki Keck" <jesusgirl71 at gmail.com>, "NOMC
> > Lisamaria Martinez" <lmartinez217 at gmail.com>, "Olga Peterkin"
> > <opeterkin at earthlink.net>, "Pamela at DOR Chase"
> > <Pamela.Chase at dor.ca.gov>, "Patricia Kaiser"
> > <pat.kaiser at sbcglobal.net>, "Paul Baker" <pbstlmin at yahoo.com>, "Peter
> > Joseph" <peter at fumco.org>, "Phil Brayden" <pab1096 at sbcglobal.net>,
> > "Pittman Enterprises & Associates" <pittmanenterprises at att.net>,
> > "prayer at fumco. org" <prayer at fumco.org>, "ramona. longoria"
> > <ramona.longoria at gmail.com>, "Rick Watson"
> > <rickwatson1113 at comcast.net>, "Robert Kuehn" <rok at wmklaw.com>, "Robert
> > Martin" <robertmartinbrl at gmail.com>, "Robert Stigile"
> > <rstigile at gmail.com>, "Rochelle Houston" <rhouston58 at gmail.com>, "roda
> > woolman" <r-woolman at comcast.net>, "Ron and anita Kelley"
> > <nitascraggs at sbcglobal.net>, "Rose Sloan" <rosesloan920 at gmail.com>,
> > "Sandra Gayer" <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>, "Shirly Catz"
> > <sabkatzx at gmail.com>, "Snow White Dove" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>, "Steve
> > Olear" <solear at olearlaw.com>, "Steven Hastalis"
> > <steve.hastalis at gmail.com>, "Sue Mueller" <smueller33 at gmail.com>, "Sue
> > Sweetman" <sue at sweetmansystems.com>, "Sugar"
> > <sugarsyl71 at sbcglobal.net>, "Tim Elder" <tim at timeldermusic.com>,
> > "Timothy Clark Music" <theblindguitarist1992 at gmail.com>, "Tina Thomas"
> > <judotina48kg at gmail.com>, "Toby Weissman" <toby_w at internetspeech.com>,
> > "Tom and Sue Kroshell" <TRKPE at aol.com>, "Wendy Burchik"
> > <wburchik at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
> > Message-ID: <F4B288D074DB408A96C2EA741B177664 at Spike>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=by utf-8"
> >
> > Hi Susan,
> > you make valid points. While I"ve only had contact with Rob through the NFB California list serve I received the email twice once from the list serve and again in my personal email. Actually I ignored it until I noticed the controversy and went back and read it. It seemed a bit shocking as it seemed to be out of character from the other communications that I have had with him in response to various issues. I think that I am bothered by the mass hysteria in response to it and the need for people to do the thing that they objected to by sending their responses to everyone on his email list rather than investigating by contacting him personally. As I work in the l legal field I see where this type of response can potentially be very dangerous and I would have thought that a more tactful method could have been used to address this rather than a public shaming as I am aware that he has had some serious personal issues to deal with recently.
> > Chuck Krugman
> >
> > From: Susan J Young
> > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:03 AM
> > To: Tiffany Manosh be Linda Mentink
> > Cc: Rob Kaiser be Becky Frankeberger be Beth Koenig be Betsy Ross Miale be Bill Reif be Bonita Rich be Brian be Carla Lewis be mailto:Cathleen.Coombs-Stephens at dor.ca.gov be Charles Krugman be cheryl thurston be Chris Greulich be Daniel Love Glazer be Danyelle Cerillo be David Meyer be Delia Garcia be Don Gillmore be Edwin be Eric Calhoun be Ever Lee Hairston be Gary Barsch be Gina Falvo be Glenn be mailto:helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com be Hilda Sandifer be Hoby Wedler be Jemal Powell be Jim Kaiser be Jo Elizabeth Pinto be Joanne Jordan be John and Deanna Bates be josh lester be Joy Stigile be Karmalynne be Kay Brown be Kelly Pierce be Kelsey Nicolay be Kevan Worley be Kia Vaca be Kim Ha be knitangelpm be Lauren Merryfield be Lee Bradley be Lee Bradley be Leslie Hamric be Lin H. be Lin Hunnicutt be Lisa Bonderson be Lisa Irving be Marilyn Moore be Mark Schafer be Mary Watkins be Mary Willows be Mat Nelson be Maureen Johnson be Melissa Earley be Merv Keck be Michael Gail be Michael Hingson be Michael Mills be Mike Bartell be Mike Freeman be Nancy
> > Lynn be NFB of California List be Nicki Keck be NOMC Lisamaria Martinez be Olga Peterkin be mailto:Pamela.Chase at dor.ca.gov be Patricia Kaiser be Paul Baker be Peter Joseph be Phil Brayden be Pittman Enterprises & Associates be mailto:prayer at fumco.org be ramona. longoria be Rick Watson be Robert Kuehn be Robert Martin be Robert Stigile be Rochelle Houston be roda woolman be Ron and anita Kelley be Rose Sloan be Sandra Gayer be Shirly Catz be Snow White Dove be Steve Olear be Steven Hastalis be Sue Mueller be Sue Sweetman be Sugar be Tim Elder be Timothy Clark Music be Tina Thomas be Toby Weissman be Tom and Sue Kroshell be Wendy Burchik
> > Subject: Re: thoughts
> >
> > Dear people- Why should we think the worst of Rob? Perhaps his e-mail has been "hacked" and this is not really coming from him. I would wait to pass judgement on this until I know more.
> >
> >
> > If you are Christians and consider him to be so, why would you rush to judgement? Referring to him as "that person" is rather offensive to me, since I have know Rob for a long, long time back here in Illinois. If these things are true, perhaps something has happened to him that needs help to be offered, because this is not the Rob I have known for over 25 years.
> >
> >
> > I also received that offensive e-mail and my first thought was that Rob's e-mail had been hacked, but if that is not the case, how can an organization that is dedicated to helping, not come at this with a questioning mind first, and helping if needed posture, rather than taking action against "that person"?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sue Young
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, November 19, 2015 10:52 PM, Tiffany Manosh <tmanosh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Linda & All,
> >
> > Please read the message below that Mary Willows, President of the National Federation of the Blind of California wrote earlier today.
> >
> > Hello Everyone:
> > I am writing to let all of you know that I have requested that the sender of that very offensive email be removed from our list. I had asked this person to keep comments on topic for the list and that didn"ment happen. We will not tolerate abuse of our list and our listers. I saw one more message slip through this afternoon but I do not think you will see anymore messages on our list from that person.
> > Thank you for your support.
> >
> > comMary Willows, President
> > National Federation of the Blind of California
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not impressed, Rob. You claim to be a Christian, and you send stuff like this! Shame on you.
> >
> > Also, you shouldn't put all our email addresses so that they can be seen by anyone. This is a big list, but you can put it in the BCC field, and it won't show. That helps to protect us all from spammers.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > At 01:49 PM 11/18/2015, Rob Kaiser wrote:
> >
> > Here are some interesting thoughts.
> >
> > Rob Kaiser
> > Hm# (442(242-7044
> > Email;
> > rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
> > thoughts,
> >
> > Q: WHAT IS AN AUSTRALIAN KISS?
> > A: It's the same as a French kiss, but 'down under'.
> >
> > Q: WHAT DO YOU DO WITH 365 USED CONDOMS?
> > A: Melt them down, make a tire, and call it a Goodyear .
> >
> > Q: WHY WERE HURRICANES ORIGINALLY NAMED AFTER WOMEN?
> > A: Because when they come, they're wet and wild, and when they go,
> > they take your house and car with them.
> >
> > Q: WHY DO GIRLS RUB THEIR EYES WHEN THEY GET UP IN THE MORNING?
> > A: Because they don't have any balls to scratch...
> >
> > BONUS QUESTION
> > Q: What is a man's Ultimate embarrassment?
> > A: Running into a wall with an erection and breaking his nose.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 07:07:45 com0800
> > From: "Angela Fowler" <fowlers at syix.com>
> > To: "'Ationfb of California List'" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Can you believe this?
> > Message-ID: <031701d1246e$60895330$219bf990$@syix.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=by us-ascii"
> >
> > Unfortunately no. Just select it as you would a paragraph of text and copy
> > and paste it into your address bar.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
> > Merryfield via Nfbc-info
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:20 AM
> > To: 'Ationfb of California List'
> > Cc: Lauren Merryfield
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Can you believe this?
> >
> > Hi,
> > Yikes! What an extraordinarily long url. Can you shorten it so it is on one
> > line?
> > Thanks,
> > Lauren
> >
> > Blessings in Jesus' name:
> > My digital evangelism blog is at:
> > www dot ask in jesus name dot org (you need to retype it) Psalm 34:1-2 I
> > will bless the Lord at all times: his praise shall continually be in my
> > mouth. My soul shall make her boast in the Lord: the humble shall hear
> > thereof, and be glad. Advice from my catscc"meow when you feel like it."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Angela
> > Fowler via Nfbc-info
> > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 6:01 PM
> > To: 'Ationfb of California List' <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Angela Fowler <fowlers at syix.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Can you believe this?
> >
> > There is a change.org petition circulating regarding this issue. Let's send
> > a very clear message.
> >
> > https://www.change.org/p/headmaster-of-hambrook-primary-school-hambrook-prim
> > ary-school-lily-grace-needs-her-long-white-cane-at-school"recruiter=12457008
> > &utmlessource=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_
> > term=des-lg-nolessrc-reason_msg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nfbc-info [mailto:nfbc-info-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa
> > Irving via Nfbc-info
> > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 1:08 PM
> > To: NFB of California List
> > Cc: Lisa Irving
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] Can you believe this?
> >
> > OMG! Does Canada have anything that resembles the American disabilities act?
> > Is Paul Gabby is still active in the NFB? I hope someone can help the little
> > girl get her came back and travel independently
> >
> > From,
> > Lisa Irving
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Michael Hingson via Nfbc-info
> >> <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Blind girl banned from using cane at school for health and safety
> >> reasons
> >>
> >> Yahoo Canada News — Wed, 18 Nov, 2015
> >>
> >> A mother of a blind seven-year-old girl has said she is absolutely
> >> livid after her daughter was banned from using her walking cane at
> >> school — in case she TRIPS up teachers and pupils.
> >> Lily-Grace Hooper suffered a stroke when she was just four days old,
> >> leaving her virtually blind and only able to see light in one eye.
> >> However, she received an essentially lifeline earlier this year when a
> >> charity donated her a fibre-glass walking cane — after she started
> >> using cardboard tubes to guide herself at home.
> >> But she has been banned from using the device at her primary school —
> >> after a risk assessment was carried out — and said it posed a high
> >> risk to others around her.
> >> Instead, Lily-Grace has been told she should instead have full adult
> >> support at all times — and has to walk carefully.
> >> The decision by Hambrook Primary School and the Sensory Support
> >> Service — which does assessments for schools — has infuriated mum Kristy.
> >> Kristy, 38, said: When the school told me she can no longer bring her
> >> cane into school, I just thought this must be health and safety gone mad.
> >> She hasnt had any problems with any of the other students, and none of
> >> the parents have complained about it — in fact, they have all been
> >> very supportive.
> >> I dont understand where the school is coming from.
> >>
> >> Lily-Grace has taken to the cane very quickly, and she needs it as she
> >> travels to school, walks to the playground, or just being in school.
> >>
> >> I am absolutely livid. What about the health and safety of my girl? I
> >> like school, they are a good school, but this really is very poor advice.
> >>
> >> Its just ridiculous. If you took a walking cane away from a blind
> >> adult, you would say that was discrimination. Its the same here.
> >>
> >> Kristy is worried that her daughter will become dependent on having
> >> someone show her around, while a helper would also set her daughter
> >> apart from the rest of her class.
> >>
> >> She added: It is a disability, but I want to celebrate it and make
> >> sure she can become independent.
> >>
> >> Sarah Murray, founder of Common Sense Canes, who donated a stick to
> >> Lily-Grace, described her treatment as absolute nonsense.
> >>
> >> Ive heard about this health and safety reasons, and I just cannot
> >> fathom what the school is thinking. Why are they taking a cane away
> >> from a little girl?
> >>
> >> School head Jo Dent has since said they would discuss the situation
> >> with Kristy.
> >>
> >> She said: The schools mobility officer raised health and safety issues
> >> around the new cane following a recent risk assessment.
> >>
> >> We have to consider all of our pupils, so it is important that we have
> >> an opportunity to discuss the situation before we make any decisions.
> >>
> >> We are very keen to resolve this issue as soon as possible and have
> >> been actively seeking to engage with the parent to bring this to an
> >> agreeable conclusion.
> >>
> >> The pupil has not been banned from bringing in their cane, we have
> >> simply asked them to not use it around school as a temporary measure
> >> until we have the chance to meet with the parent and discuss the
> > situation.
> >>
> >> It was initially hoped that we would have this resolved within a day
> >> or
> > two.
> >>
> >> https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blind-girl-banned-using-cane-161536749.html
> >>
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 09:31:29 com0800
> > From: "Charles Krugman" <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "NFB of California List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
> > Message-ID: <606BBE929AA44862AE399a5cb389ed0e at spike>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=by iso-8859-1";
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> > what has happened here is that everything on Rob's email list got this
> > message including this list serve. I have been receiving messages
> > individually from everyone who individually responded to the message because
> > they are replying to all instead of replying to sender unless this is
> > occurring as a result of some malware which might be a possibility. I for
> > one have not received any explanatory email from Rob apologizing or
> > justifying why this message was sent which leads me to believe that there
> > may be a computer problem.
> > Chuck
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info
> > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 8:47 AM
> > To: NFB of California List
> > Cc: Nancy Lynn
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
> >
> > This whole thoughts thing is confusing. Sometimes I get emails with that
> > word as the subject line, but it doesn't show the nfbc indicator. Sometimes,
> > as with this email, it does show nfbc. I don't want to leave the real nfbc
> > list, but I'd like to get off whatever list just shows the 1-word subject
> > line. Somebody please clear this up? Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Keep smiling. People will wonder what you're up to.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nancy Lynn via Nfbc-info
> > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 10:43 AM
> > To: Leslie Hamric be Susan J Young
> > Cc: Nancy Lynn be Robert Martin be Marilyn Moore be Linda Mentink be Nicki Keck
> > be roda woolman be Shirly Catz be Robert Kuehn be Joanne Jordan be prayer at fumco.
> > org be Kelly Pierce be Mike Bartell be Kay Brown be Bonita Rich be Sugar be Chris
> > Greulich be Bill Reif be Michael Gail be Pamela at DOR Chase be Rochelle Houston be
> > Steve Olear be Rob Kaiser be Gina Falvo be Lin H. be Daniel Love Glazer be Paul
> > Baker be Don Gillmore be Delia Garcia be Carla Lewis be Betsy Ross Miale be Mary
> > Watkins be Edwin be Michael Hingson be Ron and anita Kelley be NOMC Lisamaria
> > Martinez be Michael Mills be Melissa Earley be Mike Freeman be ramona. longoria
> > be helga. schreiber26 at gmail. com be Jo Elizabeth Pinto be Olga Peterkin be Sue
> > Sweetman be Mat Nelson be Jemal Powell be Tom and Sue Kroshell be Maureen
> > Johnson be Brian be josh lester be Rose Sloan be Steven Hastalis be Timothy Clark
> > Music be Jim Kaiser be Lin Hunnicutt be Lee Bradley be Peter Joseph be Lee
> > Bradley be NFB of California List be Wendy Burchik be cheryl thurston be
> > Cathleen at DOR Coombs-Stephens be David Meyer be Rick Watson be Mark Schafer be
> > Hilda Sandifer be Pittman Enterprises & Associates be Patricia Kaiser be Kelsey
> > Nicolay be Tina Thomas be Sue Mueller be Sandra Gayer be Glenn be Toby Weissman be
> > Eric Calhoun be John and Deanna Bates be Lisa Bonderson be Becky Frankeberger be
> > Kevan Worley be Phil Brayden be Merv Keck be Danyelle Cerillo be Gary Barsch be
> > Kim Ha be Snow White Dove
> > Subject: Re: [Nfbc-info] thoughts
> >
> > Me too. Take me off this list as well.
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 11:45:21 com0600
> > From: "Nancy Lynn" <freespirit.stl at att.net>
> > To: "mcb chat" <chat at moblind.org>, "nfbmo list" <nfbmo at nfbnet.org>,
> > "NFBC List" <nfbc-info at nfbnet.org>, "Blind-x Listserv"
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> > Subject: [Nfbc-info] the last poem Roy Avers read for us
> > Message-ID: <184F23C37CC2426BBA03605445F59280 at nancyPC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=by utf-8"
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> > I got this from Erin Jones and was asked to circulate it.
> > -------------- next part --------------
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