[nfbcs] Creating a desktop shortcut

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Mon Nov 16 13:51:12 UTC 2009 

Thanks Steve and Mike.  While it would be nice to have some book that
would tell me everything I need to know, in its absence it's nice to know
I'm not the only one trying to figure this stuff out by trial and error. 
Nice to know there's no secret everyone else knows and I missed.  And nice
to have other blind guys I can ask for help!
Tracy

> Tracy,
>
> In my experience, everything you ever wanted to know is already written
> down somewhere.  However, it often takes
> more time to find the answer you want than it does to experiment or ask.
> Over time, one does get a sense of what might
> be worth trying, as I am sure you are already finding.  In the case of
> your question yesterday, I didn't know the answer I
> gave when you originally asked.  I have noticed in recent versions of
> Windows, one is able to do more with Start Menu
> entries than one used to, so I went to the start menu and tried copying
> the shortcut with CONTROL-C but just got the
> chime that indicates nothing happened.  I new that the applications key
> has some options so I tried that and found the
> "COPY option and tried that.  Because of your question, I now know how to
> do it more efficiently myself.  It is hard to
> really explain some of this, though, because it really is just guess-work
> sometimes.  I suppose at least some of what I feel
> I have accumulated in terms of experience is going to have to be relearned
> with Windows 7.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:44:19 -0500 (EST), Tracy Carcione wrote:
>
>>Thanks Steve!  I did what you said, using Copy, and it worked!  Laura was
>>right about having nothing selected on the desktop when I did the paste,
>>which was a little harder than I would have thought, but I got it done,
>>and I've written it down for future reference.
>>Thanks to everyone for the help.
>
>>Are these things written down somewhere?  Can I learn how to do such
>>things without pestering everyone?  Or is it a word-of-mouth, experience
>>kind of thing?
>>Tracy
>
>
>>> If you copied something from c:\program files, they are actual programs
>>> or
>>> folders containing folders and not shortcuts.
>>> You don't want to copy those to other locations, and I would delete any
>>> folders you copied in that way being careful not
>>> to delete the originals, of course.  If you see the entries under
>>> Programs
>>> or All programs, they almost have to be there
>>> although I suppose they could be hidden in some cases.  Remember that
>>> if
>>> you explore, you have to check programs in
>>> Start menu in All users as well as in the user you are in.  I just
>>> tried
>>> copying Outlook Express's shortcut using the start
>>> menu and the applications key to copy and then pasting it to the
>>> desktop
>>> and it worked here.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:56:19 -0500 (EST), Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, it worked for Windows Media Player, but not for Outlook Express.
>>>>Neither one was under Programs; they were under Program Files.  For OE,
>>>>when I selected it and pasted it, it just pasted a folder, not a
>>>> shortcut.
>>>>I have to talk to a tech trainer this weekend on another subject, so
>>>> I'll
>>>>try asking her.
>>>>I can ask the guys in the office too, but they just grab the mouse and
>>>>start zooming it around.  But maybe they can explain what they're doing
>>>>with the mouse, and I can duplicate it.
>>>>Thanks anyhow.
>>>>Tracy
>>>
>>>>> Ok, here's how to do it --
>>>>> The way I showed you before succeeds in creating a new shortcut, but
>>>>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>> put on the "all programs" submenu of the start menu.  It does not put
>>>>> the
>>>>> shortcut on the desktop.
>>>>> If you want the latter, do the following:
>>>>> 1. bring up the start menu and hit escape to get focus on the start
>>>>> button.
>>>>> 2. hit the applications key for the context menu and select
>>>>> "explore".
>>>>> 3. go into "programs" and look at the files in that folder.  "Outlook
>>>>> Express" should be one of them.  Highlight it and copy it with
>>>>> control+c.
>>>>> 4. close that window and go to the desktop.  Be sure you are not
>>>>> selecting
>>>>> anything on the desktop and hit control+v to paste the shortcut.
>>>>> And there you have it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if there are any problems with this procedure.
>>>>> Happy munging.
>>>>> --le
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>> To: "NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:07 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] 2 more questions re Outlook Express
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW, I don't see the Start Menu being any
>>>>>> more difficult than the desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well no, usually not.  But there are other things he needs often, and
>>>>> I
>>>>> would like to know the trick for putting a shortcut on the desktop.
>>>>> It
>>>>> must be simple to do, and yet I can't figure it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked at the OE properties, but no shortcut option, nor in the
>>>>> file
>>>>> menu.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The shortcut may appear in the Outlook Express folder itself. You
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> just cut/paste to the desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Date: Friday, Nov 13, 2009 5:13:35
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] 2 more questions re Outlook Express
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> OE is now behaving itself and going to the right identity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To create a shortcut, I tried going to the programs menu and
>>>>>>> hitting
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> applications key, but nothing happened.  I also tried shift-F10,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>> I tried the pseudo-mouse right click, which brought up a menu with
>>>>>>> "create
>>>>>>> shortcut", on which I hit Enter, but no shortcut appeared on the
>>>>>>> Desktop.
>>>>>>> I am at a loss.
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > In OE, go to "manage identities" if you want to make a different
>>>>>>> identity
>>>>>>> > the deefault.
>>>>>>> > It takes a little tabbing around, but it is all accessible.
>>>>>>> > As for the shortcut, open the start menu and go to all programs
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>> > outlook express, but don't activate it -- instead, hit the
>>>>>>> applications
>>>>>>> > key
>>>>>>> > to call up the context menu.  The first item is "open" -- but if
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> arrow
>>>>>>> > down a bit you will see "create a shortcut".  You can go from
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > But rereading your mail, do you really want to create a new
>>>>>>> identity?
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> > would you rather just create a new account within the same
>>>>>>> identity?
>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>> > can
>>>>>>> > have multiple accounts in the same identity.  You can get to the
>>>>>>> accounts
>>>>>>> > on
>>>>>>> > the tools menu inside OE.  If you need help with this procedure,
>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> > know
>>>>>>> > and I'll assist.  I unfortunately have spent many long hours
>>>>>>> learning
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> > ins and outs of OE and think I have a good enough understanding
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> help do
>>>>>>> > most anything it is capable of.
>>>>>>> > Have fun...ininsmile*
>>>>>>> > -comle
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>>> > To: <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:29 PM
>>>>>>> > Subject: [nfbcs] 2 more questions re Outlook Express
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I am trying to set up Outlook Express on my husband's new
>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> > a mistake on the Main Identity.  I need to change pop3 to imap,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> > find anywhere to do it.  I set up a second identity properly, but
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> > still taking Main Identity as the default, and so not getting his
>>>>>>> email.
>>>>>>> > How can I change the Main Identity to use imap, or make the
>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>> > identity the default?  I've asked at work, but no one can help me
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > And, duh, how do I put a shortcut on the desktop?  Outlook
>>>>>>> Express
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> > the start menu, but the man finds that a bit confusing.  I want
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> > shortcut on the desktop, but can't seem to be able to get to the
>>>>>>> > Properties to do it. I tried looking it up in Windows Help, but
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> > burbles about drag and drop. I've never found any useful info in
>>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>>> > Help.
>>>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>>>> > Tracy
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
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