[nfbcs] a question about Word

Tue Oct 13 21:48:49 UTC 2009

I'll try again, but I have come to the conclusion that this pic simply won't 
fit unless I either make the top and bottom margins smaller or get a sighted 
person to resize the pics.
I see a dark rectangle on the page where the picture is and it's too bad 
it's so close to being small enough but not quite small enough.
Now I need to go to page setup and fiddle with margins and see if that 
helps.
Thanks.
Oh, and I tried fiddling with the paragraph indent settings and got thrown 
off by jaws, which seems to imply there is no way to do what you are saying, 
but then jaws and Word may not live happily together, especially jaws 11 and 
Word 2003.
Happy computing all.
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] a question about Word

I hate it when others suggest things they have not tried, so take this  for 
what it is worth.  I would think that if you select the picture and the 
caption paragraph that
the "Keep with next" or "Keep Lines Together" could be used to keep these 
items from being separated.  Inserting the page break before certainly 
works, but if one
decided later to delete a paragraph you could end up with a shorter page 
than necessary.  These options are in Format paragraph on the Line and Page 
Breaks tab.

Also, I would just explore the "Indents and Spacing" page of this same 
dialog.  There you have both hanging indent and indent options that should 
do what you
want.  There is a "special" combo box that lets you select whether you want 
nothing special done or the first line indented or a Hanging indent.  If you 
specify
"None" you should be able to indent everything, I would think.

Another thing to be aware of is that if you insert a picture and you then 
select it, a new item appears on the format menu.  Object is replaced by 
Picture, and there
are a lot of options that you can control by specifying parameters rather 
than using the mouse including the ability to resize a picture.

The inches measurement of where you are in a document in terms of distance 
from the top is on the status line just befor LN which gives the line 
number.  Window-
Eyes replaces the cursor position with the distances from the left and top 
margins which is really nice, but I'm guessing JFW must have some way of 
doing this as
well.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:53:05 -0400 (EDT), Tracy Carcione wrote:

>You could insert a manual page break before the caption for pic 2.  That
>should put the caption and pic on the same page.
>A manual page break in Word is control-enter.
>The things I learn being a Bookshare volunteer.
>Tracy

>> Hi all --
>> I know this may be obvious to those familiar with the workings of MS Word
>> (I'm using 2003), but I have never done this without sighted assistance
>> and
>> am wondering if any of you have.
>>
>> I have a word doc that I want to insert 2 pictures into.
>> I know the pics are the ones I want and they should fit, as another pic I
>> took with this same camera fit. But it is giving me problems tonight.
>>
>> Here's the layout:
>>
>> Letter written that fits in 1 page, then a page break.
>> Text caption for picture then include pic1
>>
>> more text for the next pic, then insert picture 2.
>> Then followup text.
>>
>> Before when I inserted a pic in a document, the pic was short and wide 
>> and
>> fit neatly into half a standard page.  I was hoping the same thing would
>> happen with these. But pic 1 and pic 2 fall on different pages, and the
>> caption for pic2 is left on the page below pic 1.
>>
>> I also want to know any queries I can make of my position in inches on 
>> the
>> screen.
>> I have been using the jaws command insert+delete to get the location I am
>> on
>> when on the captions but the info it gives me is not usable. I need
>> inches.
>> This would then tell me about how much space the picture takes up.
>>
>> Any comments welcome. But I'm not done...
>>
>> I also am wondering how to interpret the indentation controls in the
>> paragraph settings. In my letter, I scarfed a paragraph of text from an
>> email and pasted it in the doc, and changed the font to turn it red. 
>> Then
>> I
>> went to the paragraph settings and really don't understand how to
>> interpret
>> the controls. Of course I know what indentation and justification is and
>> such, but I need a way to specify how to indent that paragraph a half 
>> inch
>> and hopefully the line length would shorten automatically.  Also I need 
>> to
>> know if it is setting a temporary indent for the first line and not
>> indenting the rest, or if the indentation is for the whole block of text.
>>
>> TIA for any helpful info!!!
>> --le
>>
>>
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