[nfbcs] JAWS, Bookshare, and Web reader

[Aaron Cannon]

Sometimes I sure wish there was a Like or +1 button for email.  The
worst teachers I ever had were the ones who supposedly already knew
everything they needed to know.

Aaron

On 4/3/13, Hyde, David W. (ESC) <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
> You know, that is a great idea which, in many teaching environments, has no
> contact with reality. There are times when you are told as instructor that
> you need to teach in an area in which you have passing familiarity. A good
> teacher will find out what he or she needs to teach, learn it, and teach it.
> You solve the problem that you have. What you "should have known" is
> unimportant. There are times when the instructor and the student learn
> simultaneously. This is not a bad thing.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega Via
> Iphone4S
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 7:30 PM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Cc: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] JAWS, Bookshare, and Web reader
>
> But it is not your job, to learn on the job. You should have learned this,
> or have known how to do this, before you will put into this situation. That
> is we are that is why we are all trained the way we are so that we will know
> how to do stuff before we are asked how to do I feel that the student is
> getting the short end of the stick, due to you lack of knowledge. And that
> is not fair
>
> Gabe Vega
> Sent from my iPhone
> (623) 565-9357
>
> On Apr 2, 2013, at 5:22 PM, "Jim Portillo" <portillo.jim at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the encouragement, Gabe.
>> Unfortunately, I'm who he's got, and I have to make it work because
>> it's my job.
>> It's a learning opportunity for me as well, but this situation just
>> came up as a request from another teacher working with him.
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega
>> Via Iphone4S
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:09 PM
>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] JAWS, Bookshare, and Web reader
>>
>> Not to seem harsh, but this sounds like your way in over your head.
>> Why not transfer him to AAT trainer that knows about braille? And how
>> braille devices work?
>>
>> Gabe Vega
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> (623) 565-9357
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:29 PM, "Jim Portillo" <portillo.jim at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have questions I need to find answers to by tomorrow and not enough
>>> time to play around with what I need. <grin>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A student of mine needs to be able to read a bookshare book both
>>> using his Braille display and JAWS.  At first, I'd downloaded the BRF
>>> file and opened it with NotePad.  The Grade 2 Braille file came up
>>> just fine, but JAWS was reading the translated code.  That didn't work.
>>>
>>> Then I found out about Web Reader from Bookshare, and I guess I can
>>> click on the "Read Now" link, and the book will show up in both text
>>> and
>> with JAWS.
>>> Here are my questions.  Oh, and this kid is using a Brailliant display.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> First, JAWS seems to be reading just fine, but do you know if the
>>> actual book will appear in Grade 2 on the Braille display?  I don't
>>> have one available right now to test it out, and I see him first
>>> thing tomorrow morning.
>>>
>>> Second, when I did the "read now" feature, Bookshare's introductory
>>> section popped up, and then when it ended, I just got a "frame end"
>>> message.  I couldn't go any further.  Do I use the Frames list for
>>> this, or should things be coming up on their own?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally, if Grade 2 Braille doesn't appear on the Braille display,
>>> what would be the easiest way of getting it to display in Grade 2
>>> without affecting how JAWS is reading the book?
>>>
>>> I thought perhaps altering the JAWS Braille setting, but not having
>>> used a Brailliant except for demos, I am not sure.
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated.  My next thought is to possibly put it
>>> on his BrailleNote, but I'm not sure if he wants it done that way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
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