[nfbcs] Phrasing Things RE: JAWS and Google Chrome Browser

Thu Apr 11 08:36:26 UTC 2013

google archives all of its webinars too, and by now more than one is 
available on the accessibility topic too.  Apparently, more similar 
webinars will be produced and archived in the future.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Larry Wayland wrote:

> Well, I imagine most people are like me and didn't know about the webinar
> therefore didn't know about the tools Google offers.  I loos patients with
> those people who assume everyone knows everything and then are rude to
> listers who are just trying to find out information.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:43 PM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Phrasing Things RE: JAWS and Google Chrome Browser
> 
> For a very long time I did not try anything with google chrome like the
> pasielo group did.  I read what that group had published first.  When I
> found out about the webinar google was putting on I spent a few hours on the
> phone listening in.  Even after that I didn't necessarily believe what I had
> heard especially since at that time nvda wasn't supported.  
> Later I tried out the combination with chromevox first and had no such
> problems as had been reported here.  I take it either some nvda support had
> been added or none was needed.  There are blind people over on the nvda list
> who insist on running google chrome without chromevox and they then complain
> about all the problems they're having even after they know perfectly well
> about chromevox and what chromevox is supposed to do.  I find those people
> very strange and for some odd reason can't get my mind around their logic
> processes.  So yes if I sound slightly frustrated with that kind of people
> you're entirely correct and I have no apologies for any of that.
> 
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
> 
> > I don't know if it was meant to come across that way, but, to me, that 
> > was kind of rude.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
> > DaShiell
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:55 PM
> > To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [nfbcs] JAWS and Google Chrome Browser
> > 
> > You had no business even trying to use google chrome without chromevox.  
> > Two years ago google held a webinar and explained to all present that 
> > the chromevox add-on was where all screen reader support for screen 
> > readers will be placed for google chrome.  Let's get clear about something
> else here too.
> > The most support chromevox has in it and the most mature support is 
> > for versions of jaws.  I use nvda at home and will never use jaws at 
> > home and I don't have any problem running google chrome with chromevox 
> > on windows7 at home.
> > 
> > On Mon, 8 Apr 2013, Aaron Cannon wrote:
> > 
> > > My experience with using Crome with Jaws 13 (just recently upgraded 
> > > to 14, so can't comment if things have improved) was so-so to poor.  
> > > I found it less accessible than Firefox.  The browser GUI, such as 
> > > the menus and option screens are much more difficult to navigate.  
> > > And as for using it to access the web, I found that it often had a 
> > > difficult time communicating changes on the page to Jaws.  For 
> > > example, when AJAX updated a portion of the page, or when a section 
> > > of content was dynamically loaded, Jaws wouldn't read the new or updated
> content.
> > > This same problem happens once in a while in Firefox as well, but 
> > > refreshing the virtual buffer usually solves it.  Sadly, this is not 
> > > the case in Crome, and I haven't been able to find any workarounds.
> > > 
> > > Good luck.
> > > 
> > > Aaron
> > > 
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> > Microsoft, windows is accessible. why do blind people need screen readers?
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> Microsoft, windows is accessible. why do blind people need screen readers?
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Microsoft, windows is accessible. why do blind people need screen readers?