[nfbcs] Possible Computer Science Speaking Topics

Tue Mar 5 22:57:44 UTC 2013

Jim,

Well, I was in a hurry and phrased it badly. Ubuntu has done best with 
Orca through the GUI and in that way has been ahead of the game... If 
I'm making sense this time. We've been on the road too long... /lol/

So that's more or less why I think of Ubuntu as "most accessible 
recently." Which discounts Vinux, so it's still a silly statement in a 
way... Depends on how you define accessibility in general and what you want?

Actually, I'm also thinking in passe terms... Arch has caught up since I 
went Linux, which wasn't that long ago... And Fedora is now considered 
accessible, which it wasn't a year or so ago, from what I heard... Great 
thing about tech is that it all moves so fast that whatever you think 
you know is old news... /lol/

Of course, for command-line, all-text users, accessibility is more 
guaranteed. /smile/ I forgot, I swear, every command I ever knew, 
probably because I remember it all from learning it visually. So I'm 
lucky I could get by with the GUI and get familiar while I tried to 
remember a dang thing about how to really learn Linux. Cat... Fluffy 
thing with four legs, right? /lol/ I'm getting past that, with things I 
had tagged visually in memory popping out in a useful way now, so whew! 
Really weird! But I'm still not super duper in using the command line 
(yet!), so I think in terms of GUI accessibility a lot, which meant 
GNOME when I made the switch, so... I have turned into one of those 
people who forgets there's anything else. /lol/

Tami

On 03/04/2013 06:28 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
> Hey Tami,
>
> Why do you say that Ubuntu is by far the most accessible distro?
>
> I am running several ubuntu servers, but also Red Hat, SuSE, and some
> arch systems as well.  Arch has the accessibiliyt advantage of having
> a command line based WPA configuration utility (netcfg)
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 06:07:34PM -0800, Tami Jarvis wrote:
>> Louis,
>>
>> Welcome to Linux! Have you tried the Orca List? I've heard a bit there about
>> Orca with Fedora, but don't pay as much attention, I'm afraid, since I am
>> running Ubuntu... Ubuntu is by far the most accessible distro, although
>> others are catching up!
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Tami
>>
>> On 03/01/2013 02:30 PM, Louis Maher wrote:
>>> Curtis,
>>>
>>> I am also looking for a speaker--one that I can ask how do you get started
>>> noting that my operating system will be Red Hat 5.7.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Louis Maher
>>> 713-444-7838
>>> ljmaher at swbell.net
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Curtis Chong [mailto:curtischong at earthlink.net]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 8:23 AM
>>> To: ljmaher at swbell.net
>>> Cc: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
>>> Subject: RE: Possible Computer Science Speaking Topics
>>>
>>> Louis:
>>>
>>> Thanks for this idea.  I will follow up and try to find a good contact to
>>> talk about this.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>> Curtis Chong
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Louis Maher [mailto:ljmaher at swbell.net]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 4:19 AM
>>> To: 'Curtis Chong'
>>> Cc: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>> Subject: Possible Computer Science Speaking Topics
>>>
>>> Curtis,
>>>
>>> I have attached a question, and responses, that I send to the Orca Linux
>>> screen reader list.  I have also pasted the document below my signature.
>>>
>>> Information on the Orca screen reader can be found at
>>> (http://projects.gnome.org/orca/).
>>>
>>> It seems that Orca is a very hands-on system that you have to assemble out
>>> of various parts.  I suspect that since there is no money in Orca, it has
>>> not  become a smoothly packaged product.
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to find a speaker knowledgeable about Orca, since
>>> most of the heavy science is still done on Linux.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions for a speaker, or solution to my problems, would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Good luck on your job hunt.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Louis Maher
>>> 713-444-7838
>>> ljmaher at swbell.net
>>> ----
>>> From:	Louis Maher <ljmaher at swbell.net>
>>> Sent:	Sunday, February 10, 2013 12:49 PM
>>> To:	Orca List (orca-list at gnome.org)
>>> Subject:	Orca Running on Remote Servers
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> My company uses Red Hat 5.7 on Massively Parallel computers.  A few of the
>>> nodes of the cluster of processors are login nodes.  These login nodes are
>>> used for code editing and job submission.
>>>
>>> People in our company access the cluster through VNC (virtual network
>>> computing) which provides a
>>> graphical user interface (GUI) window running on Windows 7.
>>>
>>> I access the cluster using the character-based SecureCRT windows program
>>> which provides a SSH (secure shell) session into the cluster.  Once in the
>>> cluster, I use the Linux screen program to get as many
>>> character- based windows as I want.  The character-based approach is
>>> limited, and I do not have access to the GUI-based job setup and queuing
>>> systems.  Often we write plug-ins to commercial software, and that
>>> commercial software brings its own powerful and inaccessible GUIs.
>>>
>>> Questions:
>>>
>>> If I had a laptop running Linux, is there a way to place Orca on the remote
>>> server and give me a GUI interface into the remote cluster?
>>>
>>> Technically I could make my Linux laptop part of the cluster, but would the
>>> job editing and job queuing programs need to be running on my laptop before
>>> I could access them?
>>>
>>> We have several domains, each with its own cluster.  If I wanted to access
>>> these other domains, would I have to have a laptop specifically dedicated to
>>> each domain?
>>>
>>> Commercially available job-setup GUI's are extremely powerful for they
>>> provide a means to connect several smaller plug-ins to make complex flows.
>>> The output of the job scheduling GUI is an extremely complex XML file.  I
>>> can make small changes in this file, but writing one of these files from
>>> scratch is not practical.
>>>
>>> So my base question is:
>>> If I had a laptop running Linux, is there a way to place Orca on the remote
>>> server and give me a GUI interface into remote computers?
>>>
>>> I will have to use Red Hat 5.7 for my effort.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Louis Maher
>>> 713-444-7838
>>> ljmaher at swbell.net
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> From: orca-list <orca-list-bounces at gnome.org> on behalf of Christopher
>>> Chaltain <chaltain at gmail.com> Sent: Sun 2/10/2013 2:53 PM
>>>
>>> I've never done it, but my understanding is that PulseAudio will send your
>>> audio over the network, so this may be an option.
>>>
>>> On 10/02/13 12:57, Bill Dengler wrote:
>>>> I don't think VNC transfers audio.
>>>> If it did then technically it should be possible.
>>>> I don't think it does ; so do you know of an alternative?
>>>> Bill
>>>> On 02/10/2013 01:48 PM, Louis Maher wrote:
>>> ---
>>> From: Bill Dengler <billkd314159 at gmail.com> Sent: Sun 2/10/2013 12:58 PM I
>>> don't think VNC transfers audio.
>>> If it did then technically it should be possible.
>>> I don't think it does ; so do you know of an alternative?
>>> Bill
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 2/11/2013
>>> alex.midence at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Do you use a braille display?  I wonder if vnc would transfer braille.
>>>
>>> Under KVM there is a mechanism to forward braille to an instance of BRLTTY
>>> running on the host. On the guest system, if I remember rightly, a Baum
>>> braille display is emulated, then Qemu/KVM takes care of the communication
>>> with the instance of BRLTTY that runs on the host, and which drives the real
>>> braille device.
>>>
>>> I hope I have this roughly right. I haven't tried it in practice because I
>>> access guests via terminal sessions or ssh, but it should allow you to run
>>> Orca on a guest system.
>>>
>>> Brlapi has network support, I think, so you might be able to send the
>>> traffic to another machine.
>>>
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