[nfbcs] "empty" pdf

Gary Wunder gwunder at earthlink.net
Mon Jan 13 15:01:29 UTC 2014


K1000 at work would be a good idea and would not violate their very generous
user policy.



-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 9:21 AM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] "empty" pdf

Thanks for all the ideas.  For this particular doc, since it was just an
example of something, I called the user and had him explain it.  However,
this "empty" document problem has cropped up a lot lately, so I'm saving all
your suggestions for next time.
Tracy

> If Insert-Z works with PDF files, you may be able to do this.  My 
> experience with Window-Eyes (not doing OCR but pasting formatted text 
> from a PDF into Word) showed that I needed to do Select All, Copy, 
> Paste for each page individually.
>
> In Word 2003 you print your PDF to the Microsoft Office Document Image 
> Writer, which has an option to save to a file.  Then you use Microsoft 
> Document Imaging to recognize the text.  I didn't find it to do a very 
> good job.
>
> My favorite way to deal with image-only PDF's at home is to use 
> Omnipage, which is now at version 19.  It puts some PDF-processing 
> options on the context menu for PDF files in Windows Explorer.  It is 
> sometimes even useful on PDF's that have text, but it can also put a 
> lot of I's or L's into your file as well.
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Project Engineer National Library Service for 
> the Blind and Physically Handicapped
> Library of Congress   202-707-0535
> http://www.loc.gov/nls
> The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those 
> of the Library of Congress, NLS.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Denise 
> M Robinson
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 8:40 AM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] "empty" pdf
>
> Yes, turn off jaws, do a ctrl a to select all, ctrl c to copy, alt tab 
> to word and paste with ctrl v then hit the ctrl key and let go which 
> takes you into paste options then hit t to keep text only which 
> essentially turns that image into text---then turn jaws back on and 
> read
>
> Denise
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I've received a pdf attachment with a file length of 35 KB, but when 
>> I open it Adobe says it's an empty document.
>> If I were at home, I'd feed it through Kurzweil, but I don't have 
>> Kurzweil  on this PC.
>> I tried Jaws convenient OCR, but it wouldn't start.
>> Are there other ways to get at the data in this doc?
>> Thanks.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
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