[nfbcs] Accessible UNIX / LINUX Help Request

Fri May 30 02:48:23 UTC 2014

First, to the best of my knowledge , none of the commandline prompts are
going to work perfectly with JAWS. The one that I have found to work the
best is Cygwin, which is free. You will probably need to use the JAWS cusor
and/or have sighted help installing it, unfortunately, but, once installed,
it works relatively well. Sometimes, JAWS is one character off when reading,
but there is a script that I have that helps a little. If you have a Braille
display or a device that can act as a Braille display, such as a
BrailleNote, this is also helpful.

Nicole and JAWS the talking shark

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From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ian C. Bray via
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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible UNIX / LINUX Help Request

Sorry for being absent from the discussion, I have had tons of stuff come up
and needed to get caught up on a few threads I'm reading on the ListServs

I have a DD-WRT router that I want to poke around with, and I have it setup
to accept SSH from one machine
That machine doesn't have JAWS     installed, but rather  NVDA.

Aside from that, what is the best SSH client you guys have found for JAWS?

I'm an old-school BASH user and Solaris / HPux / Iriirix / SlackWare Munkie.
I have an old laptop with Ubuntu 12.08 LTS installed, and wanted to see if I
could get it to talk so I could help a friend of mine with his research
project -- setting up a Beowolf Cluster.

He's a Unix Noob, but learning fast.
I can't help him because he isn't patient enough to dig through /var/adm/foo
for me and read log files /GRIN/ I thought if I could take the chatter box
laptop & ssh in and poke around his log files, and be self sufficient, maybe
we could get it working so he can complete his project & hopefully graduate
soon. ROFL.

Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Barbour via nfbcs" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
To: "Ian C. Bray via nfbcs" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible UNIX / LINUX Help Request

> I'm not John, but I do use Linux/UNIX daily and have a few points to make.
>
> First, Orca is not as stable as JAWS, Window Eyes, or voiceover.  It
> keeps getting worked on, and I would call it usable, but you'll have
> to get used to more crashes, hangs, inconsistant behavior, etc.
>
> However, much of what gets done in Linux can be done from inside a
> terminal -- think of a fancier cmd.exe window.
>
> If you figure out that what you need linux for can be done from the
> command line, this opens up two other options for you.
>
> First, you can find out if your linux box allows incoming ssh
> connections.  ssh is a method for accessing other, most UNIX like, hosts.
>
> If your linux box allows incoming ssh connections, or if you can
> enable them, then you can install an ssh client on your windows
> machine and use jaws plus your ssh client to access your linux box.
> You can have as many ssh sessions opened as you like, meaning you can
> do many tasks at once.
>
> Second, you can configure your linux box to not run X-windows, and
> instead just run a terminal based screen reader.  There are two that I
> know of.  Terminal based screen readers operate directly within the
> terminal, behaving like DOS screen readers from 30 years ago.  Your
> keystrokes get echoed, your output gets read to you, you can use
> review cursors to explore the screen, you can use programs that divide
> your physical screen into several logical ones, so you can do multiple
> things at once, etc.
>
> If any of this sounds interesting to you, feel free to ask about them
> here and one of us can tell you more.
>
> Take Care,
>
> Jim
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 09:10:17AM -0400, Ian  C. Bray via nfbcs wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> Is there a huge learning curve?
>> I'm a JAWS user, but know nothing of ORCA and your suggeted reader.
>> Are ORCA & Yours similar to operate??
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John G. Heim via nfbcs"
>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Accessible UNIX / LINUX Help Request
>>
>>
>> >In my opinion, the best talking distro out there is sonar linux. I don't
>> >know the URL, you can google that though. I was so impressed with sonar 
>> >I
>> >installed it on my
>> >machine at home. And I do linux support for a living. I have not tried 
>> >the
>> >latest version though. They recently switched from basing their distro 
>> >on
>> >linux to basing it on arch (I think).
>> >
>> >If you need something based on ubuntu, you can try vinux.
>> >
>> >There is currently a huge debate going on on the orca list about
>> >standardizing the key bindings to make it easier for users to switch 
>> >from
>> >Windows to linux. It has gotten heated enough that I took myself off the
>> >list for a while. But I can virtually guarantee that there will be no
>> >changes. I was about the only one who even seemed to think it was worth
>> >considering. I'll admit that it would be wrong to change the orca keys 
>> >to
>> >be like those of jaws. What I would hope for, though, it to get people 
>> >to
>> >agree that if some standardization could be done, it would be a good
>> >thing. People won't even go for that. It's ridiculous, IMO.
>> >
>> >
>> >On May 17, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Ian C. Bray via nfbcs wrote:
>> >
>> >>Is there anyone out there who can help me
>> >>get an UBUNTU  box started so that it has some varriant of
>> >>speech that functions simillarly to JAWS?
>> >>
>> >>I-- have no idea where to start with this.
>> >>
>> >>Tami Jarvis spoke to me about ORCA-- and I have only been diving into 
>> >>my
>> >>own SEMI-Professional Accessibility Needs recently.
>> >>
>> >>I have an ancient LAPTOP with 12.8 LTS on it, and I would like to get
>> >>back to my Unix / Linux Tinkering.
>> >>
>> >>Mentorship & off-line phone conversations & EMail Groups / Listservs
>> >>welcome.
>> >>I do not do well in forums-- but I'm not saying I won't try.
>> >>
>> >>Respectfully,
>> >>
>> >>Ian  C. Bray
>> >>Louisville, KY
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