[nfbcs] Grub Question:

John G. Heim jheim at math.wisc.edu
Wed Aug 19 01:21:24 UTC 2015


Okay, that's BackTrack linux. I forgot that ever existed. It was 
abandoned years ago. Good news though, according to wikipedia, "In March 
2013, the Offensive Security team rebuilt BackTrack around the Debian 
distribution and released it under the name Kali linux."

Googling seems to indicate that Kali linux is fully accessible. I think 
you should go to your instructor and get him or her to let you use Kali 
linux instead of BackTrack. You can sell him on this idea by pointing 
out that by doing so, you will be helping him move on to a type of linux 
that is still supported. In other words, you'll be doing his research 
for him. He is going to have to switch to Kali eventually anyway.


On 08/18/2015 04:44 PM, Charles E. Black via nfbcs wrote:
> The title of the cdrom is "BT5". Thanks!
>
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> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Grub Question:
>
> You should just put the CD into your Windows computer. Windows will almost
> certainly tell you what the disk label is and if we have that, we'll know
> what you've got. I'm betting on ubuntu. If not, grml.
>
> On 08/18/2015 11:35 AM, Charles E. Black via nfbcs wrote:
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> I am very green when it comes to linux. This is what I have found out
>> sense my last writing.
>>
>> To answer one question, I have a cd which Linux is supposed to run from.
>> Unfortunately, I don't know what verssion of Linux is on it. The only
>> thing in the readme file says is the backtrack verssion of Linux. I
>> went out on the internet and found the backtrack security edition but
>> didn't see any information about what flavor of Linux it was running
>> under. The Grub loader is used to install whatever type of Linux it
>> is, whether it be backtrack or whatever.
>>
>> I have been looking at vinux and reading the page related to that
>> distro. I downloaded the vinux and am now getting ready to run it to
>> obtain some experience with Linux. It has been 7 years sense I even
>> looked at Linux and that seems like a lifetime.
>>
>> All of your help is appreciated. If Sina Bahram would contact me, that
>> would be appreciated. My email is below. As to everyone else, keep the
>> comments coming. You do not know how much help you guys are and we
>> have to stick together if we want to be successful in this world.
>>
>> Charles E. Black
>> charleseblack at att.net
>>
>>
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>> via nfbcs
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>> Cc: John G Heim <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Grub Question:
>>
>> I doubt an instructor would give a student a distro they had to install.
>> That would be assuming each student has a computer they can devote
>> entirely to the class. And to be practical, they'd really have to have
>> a laptop they could devote to the class. Not too many people have an
>> extra laptop sitting around. No instructor would assume that.
>>
>> I think it has to be a live CD. We really need the OP to clear up what
>> distro he has before we can give reasonable advice.
>>
>> If I was teaching an ethical hacking course instead of messing around
>> with CDs, I'd require each student to create their own bootable thumb
> drive.
>> After all, that would be an important part of the learning process for
>> a hacker. I might not even care what operating system they used.
>>
>> On 08/18/2015 09:31 AM, Jude DaShiell via nfbcs wrote:
>>> Grub is not a distro.  That is a boot loader.  If what you got was
>>> kali linux (I expect so given the number of security tools in that
>>> package) you'll probably need to install it on a hard drive.  When
>>> you boot the computer if your dvd is read you'll hear a short low beep.
>>> Hit s then hit enter to start the install process.  Wait a few
>>> seconds then answer the questions you hear with the keyboard.  When
>>> finished, booting the hard drive brings up orca talking.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015, Charles E. Black via nfbcs wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:24:05
>>>> From: Charles E. Black via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>>>> Cc: Charles E. Black <charleseblack at att.net>
>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Grub Question:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am attending a Master's class on Ethical Hacking. They gave me a
>>>> Linux disk with the Grub distro. This disk contains different
>>>> hacking tools I will be using throughout the class. Is there a way
>>>> to make the Grub distro use speech? Beyond, once I determine what
>>>> tools there are, is there a way to attack the linux problem? I know
>>>> what linux is and I have looked at Ubuntu, a little. Now, I need to
>>>> be more than a little familiar with linux.
>>>> Education will happen quickly. But, it will never happen if I don't
>>>> have a functional verssion of linux. Can some make any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Charles Black
>>>>
>>>> charleseblack at att.net
>>>>
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