[nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS

Tue Aug 9 19:27:06 UTC 2016

Just as a piece of commentary, I tend to favour the term "usable with JAWS"
as opposed to "Accessible" because in most cases what large organisations
are asking is does it meet the accessibility guidelines (that refer to all
kinds of disabilities and needs - not just blind/jaws users) but think if
they send a JAWS user through a site that they meet the requirement.

Now that I'm off my high horse... one of the challenges is that sharepoint
can be used to "make" a bunch of different things; or to put it another
way.... sharepoint can be used in a lot of different ways.  It can be used
as a website content management system, a file repository or replacement for
shared drives, as a team site, as a wiki or blog... etc.  So helping with
how to use sharepoint is also kind of going to be a bit obscure.   There are
also tons of 3rd party modules or add-ons that can add additional
functionality.  

While it's a little old; this article might be a good starting point:
http://blog.blackspheretech.com/?p=53

It would also help us to know what modules, customisations and purpose they
see sharepoint being used for.

-----Original Message-----
From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell via
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Sent: August 9, 2016 11:16 AM
To: Ryan Stevens via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS

Okay, that's good.  What you might try in sharepoint in form fields where
labels don't speak at first is to hit downarrow once and see if you get a
little more information back.  The site may be accessible, but appears to me
to not be useable.  Internal sites rarely are going to be accessible unless
internal accessibility users have to interact with that site.

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016, Ryan Stevens via nfbcs wrote:

> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 20:01:29
> From: Ryan Stevens via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ryan Stevens <rysteve at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS
> 
> Hello, Jude,
>
> The site is for a state government agency for its own internal use, 
> but I don't think there are any restrictions on the version of JAWS 
> which can be used. Also, I work for a non-profit that contracts with 
> the state, not directly for the agency.
>
>   Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude 
> DaShiell via nfbcs
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 4:44 PM
> To: David Andrews via nfbcs
> Cc: Jude DaShiell; David Andrews
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS
>
> Some employers especially D.O.D. components have deployed their own 
> versions of jaws and have substantial restrictions on which versions 
> of jaws can be used on any given machine at any given time.  These 
> versions have had security patches added to them.  As a result, anyone 
> using any of these versions of jaws is likely to have issues unknown 
> to the general jaws-using population especially when evaluating any 
> new technology be it on their desktops or on the internet.  If it's a 
> corporate employer you're likely to have a much wider possibility to 
> get help from the larger community since corporate versions of jaws 
> haven't been subjected to D.O.D. modifications.  This is also why 
> commercial versions of jaws cannot be used for accessibility within 
> D.O.D., a tester will have to use a D.O.D. version to be assured of 
> accurate results.
>
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016, David Andrews via nfbcs wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 16:06:22
>> From: David Andrews via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS
>>
>> In general it is always best to use the latest JAWS. You have to 
>> figure
> that
>> 15 is over two years old.  I would guess IE is the best browser to 
>> use, as
> it
>> and Sharepoint are from Microsoft. Depending on how it was installed, 
>> and configured, many Sharepoint sites have link at top that says 
>> "More
> Accessible
>> Mode."  If so, pick that first.
>>
>> I think that most blind persons find Sharepoint difficult to use.  
>> This is
> in
>> part because most IT shops dump it on people's desktops without training.
>> Also, it is different from things we are used to.  There are many 
>> links,
> lots
>> of jargon, and overwhelming obscure choices.
>>
>> I mentioned JAWS changing, just last   or a couple weeks ago, I was
having
>
>> trouble with a control on a web site.  Not Sharepoint, but there was 
>> a
> JAWS
>> update, and it worked perfectly.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> 01:46 PM 8/8/2016, you wrote:
>>> Hello, listers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As a JAWS user, I have been asked to review for accessibility a 
>>> website featuring SharePoint.  Is there any version of JAWS that has 
>>> been
> expressly
>>> made to work with SharePoint? Also, are there browsers that have 
>>> better accessibility? I am currently using JAWS 15 and Internet 
>>> Explorer 11, and I'm hitting many snags.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ryan Stevens
>>
>>
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