[nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS

Tue Aug 9 20:32:10 UTC 2016

Hello, everyone,

To follow up, the site I'm reviewing will be used for creation and sharing
of documents. Also, I turned on the stronger accessibility and tried again.
Getting around was a bit easier, but still not enough to be effective. I'll
take a look at the links that have been sent over and hopefully there will
be some information which will be helpful.

Thanks,
   Ryan

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From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell via
nfbcs
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:44 PM
To: Jeffrey D. Stark; 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'
Cc: Jude DaShiell
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS

usability is an add-on to accessibility and will effect everyone 
especially accessibility users whether or not those users use a screen 
reader.  Read more at:
https://www.usability.gov/
  > Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 15:27:06
> From: Jeffrey D. Stark <jds.listserv at gmail.com>
> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: 'Jude DaShiell' <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Subject: RE: [nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS
> 
> Just as a piece of commentary, I tend to favour the term "usable with
JAWS"
> as opposed to "Accessible" because in most cases what large organisations
> are asking is does it meet the accessibility guidelines (that refer to all
> kinds of disabilities and needs - not just blind/jaws users) but think if
> they send a JAWS user through a site that they meet the requirement.
>
> Now that I'm off my high horse... one of the challenges is that sharepoint
> can be used to "make" a bunch of different things; or to put it another
> way.... sharepoint can be used in a lot of different ways.  It can be used
> as a website content management system, a file repository or replacement
for
> shared drives, as a team site, as a wiki or blog... etc.  So helping with
> how to use sharepoint is also kind of going to be a bit obscure.   There
are
> also tons of 3rd party modules or add-ons that can add additional
> functionality.
>
> While it's a little old; this article might be a good starting point:
> http://blog.blackspheretech.com/?p=53
>
> It would also help us to know what modules, customisations and purpose
they
> see sharepoint being used for.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude DaShiell
via
> nfbcs
> Sent: August 9, 2016 11:16 AM
> To: Ryan Stevens via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS
>
> Okay, that's good.  What you might try in sharepoint in form fields where
> labels don't speak at first is to hit downarrow once and see if you get a
> little more information back.  The site may be accessible, but appears to
me
> to not be useable.  Internal sites rarely are going to be accessible
unless
> internal accessibility users have to interact with that site.
>
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016, Ryan Stevens via nfbcs wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 20:01:29
>> From: Ryan Stevens via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Ryan Stevens <rysteve at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS
>>
>> Hello, Jude,
>>
>> The site is for a state government agency for its own internal use,
>> but I don't think there are any restrictions on the version of JAWS
>> which can be used. Also, I work for a non-profit that contracts with
>> the state, not directly for the agency.
>>
>>   Ryan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jude
>> DaShiell via nfbcs
>> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 4:44 PM
>> To: David Andrews via nfbcs
>> Cc: Jude DaShiell; David Andrews
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS
>>
>> Some employers especially D.O.D. components have deployed their own
>> versions of jaws and have substantial restrictions on which versions
>> of jaws can be used on any given machine at any given time.  These
>> versions have had security patches added to them.  As a result, anyone
>> using any of these versions of jaws is likely to have issues unknown
>> to the general jaws-using population especially when evaluating any
>> new technology be it on their desktops or on the internet.  If it's a
>> corporate employer you're likely to have a much wider possibility to
>> get help from the larger community since corporate versions of jaws
>> haven't been subjected to D.O.D. modifications.  This is also why
>> commercial versions of jaws cannot be used for accessibility within
>> D.O.D., a tester will have to use a D.O.D. version to be assured of
>> accurate results.
>>
>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016, David Andrews via nfbcs wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 16:06:22
>>> From: David Andrews via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] SharePoint with JAWS
>>>
>>> In general it is always best to use the latest JAWS. You have to
>>> figure
>> that
>>> 15 is over two years old.  I would guess IE is the best browser to
>>> use, as
>> it
>>> and Sharepoint are from Microsoft. Depending on how it was installed,
>>> and configured, many Sharepoint sites have link at top that says
>>> "More
>> Accessible
>>> Mode."  If so, pick that first.
>>>
>>> I think that most blind persons find Sharepoint difficult to use.
>>> This is
>> in
>>> part because most IT shops dump it on people's desktops without
training.
>>> Also, it is different from things we are used to.  There are many
>>> links,
>> lots
>>> of jargon, and overwhelming obscure choices.
>>>
>>> I mentioned JAWS changing, just last   or a couple weeks ago, I was
> having
>>
>>> trouble with a control on a web site.  Not Sharepoint, but there was
>>> a
>> JAWS
>>> update, and it worked perfectly.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> 01:46 PM 8/8/2016, you wrote:
>>>> Hello, listers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As a JAWS user, I have been asked to review for accessibility a
>>>> website featuring SharePoint.  Is there any version of JAWS that has
>>>> been
>> expressly
>>>> made to work with SharePoint? Also, are there browsers that have
>>>> better accessibility? I am currently using JAWS 15 and Internet
>>>> Explorer 11, and I'm hitting many snags.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ryan Stevens
>>>
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