[nfbcs] Petition Asking President Obama To Direct the JusticeDepartment to Issue ADA Internet Regulations

Nancy Coffman nancy.l.coffman at gmail.com
Mon Jan 25 13:17:19 UTC 2016 

Once I got into the link, I had no trouble accessing the site. On an iPhone, the link does not include the end of the link. I had to select, and make sure it was correct. After that, it worked great.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2016, at 8:39 PM, Peter Donahue via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Dave and everyone,
> 
>    The only way to put these notions to the test is for the NFB to host
> such petitions on its own Website. Facebook etc were unknowns at one time
> but people spread the word and they're now house-hold social networking
> sites. Obviously if I have information of interest and want to direct
> Internet traffic to it and want visitors to not encounter accessibility
> issues I would host such information on a Website usable by all including
> those who use assistive technology. Furthermore those who visit a Website
> designed with accessibility in mind would see an example of how a Website
> must be designed that is usable by all visitors including the blind. If the
> NFB did this with this petition we wouldn't have our inboxes cluttered by
> messages from those having difficulty signing the petition to wade through.
> Mary and I support the spirit of what we want to see the Obama
> Administration to to improve Internet accessibility but not at the expense
> of having difficulty accessing the very petitions we're being asked to sign.
> This is America and there must be different approaches for solving the same
> issue that appeal to the needs of different people. If organizations like
> the NFB want us to sign petitions of this nature they had better be hosted
> on Websites usable by the blind including the organization's own accessible
> Website. People come after organizations because they're made to do so by
> said organizations hypocritical actions!
> 
> Peter Donahue
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via
> nfbcs
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:33 PM
> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
> Cc: David Andrews
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Petition Asking President Obama To Direct the
> JusticeDepartment to Issue ADA Internet Regulations
> 
> Peter, get off your high horse. You certainly seem willing to go after the
> NFB at every opportunity.
> 
> While the accessibility problems are unfortunate, they are also an
> opportunity to work with the web site developers.
> 
> I presume this site was picked because it is an official Obama
> administration site, and they have said they will seriously consider
> anything that gets 100,000 signatures.
> 
> I would guess that if we hosted the petition, we would not get such
> consideration.
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 03:39 PM 1/16/2016, you wrote:
> 
> 
>> Good afternoon everyone,
>> 
>>    It's because the NFB acted irresponsibly and used and placed the 
>> petition on a Website with known accessibility issues and no way to 
>> fix it. The organization has its in-house content management system 
>> and could have hosted it there where it can be managed by in-house 
>> technology staff who better understand the business of making Internet 
>> resources accessible. I've seen this organization go down this road 
>> many times and it's time for it to stop!
>> 
>> Peter Donahue
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jennifer Aberdeen via nfbcs wrote:
>>> Why is this patition not accessible? When I click on the submit 
>>> button, in different ways; enter, space, left mouse button on the num 
>>> pad, nothing happens.
>>> 
>>> I'm using jaws 13 with win 7 and IE 11.
>>> 
>>> Jen
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Curtis Chong via nfbcs
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 1:38 PM
>>> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: Curtis Chong
>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Petition Asking President Obama To Direct the 
>>> JusticeDepartment to Issue ADA Internet Regulations
>>> 
>>> Greetings:
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016, the National Federation of the Blind 
>>> launched a petition (the link to which is provided below) calling on 
>>> the Obama administration promptly to release the long-awaited ADA 
>>> internet regulations. On the 20th anniversary of the Americans with 
>>> Disabilities Act (way back in 2010), President Obama said that he 
>>> would issue regulations implementing the requirement for accessible 
>>> websites, noting that they would be "the most important updates to the ADA
> since its original enactment."
>>> President Obama now says that the regulations will not be released 
>>> until 2018, after he leaves office.
>>> 
>>> For those of who are blind, inaccessible websites can make it 
>>> impossible to apply for jobs, participate in online courses, or 
>>> conduct vital personal financial business. Website developers need 
>>> guidance on how to comply with the law. Failing to provide that 
>>> guidance is irresponsible and inconsistent with President Obama's
> expressed commitment to civil rights.
>>> 
>>> If you are interested in signing the petition (and I hope you are), 
>>> point your browser to this link.
>>> 
>>> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/direct-us-department-justice
>>> -promp
>>> tly-release-ada-internet-regulations
>>> 
>>> As an example of the need for these regulations, some JAWS users 
>>> running Internet Explorer have reported a problem with the "sign" 
>>> button when attempting to add their name. Here are some solutions to 
>>> help mitigate that problem.
>>> 
>>> 1.            Try routing the JAWS cursor to PC (Insert+Numpad Minus), and
>>> pressing  the left mouse button (Numpad Slash), and the "sign" button 
>>> will be selected.
>>> 
>>> 2.            Alternatively, you can sign the petition using the Mozilla
>>> Firefox browser.
>>> 
>>> The petition is reported to be accessible using iOS devices such as 
>>> the iPad or iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Cordially,
>>> 
>>> Curtis Chong, President
>>> National Federation of the Blind in Computer Science
> 
>         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
> E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> 
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