[nfbcs] NFBTRANS

Wed May 11 16:44:49 UTC 2016

It would be interesting to rewrite NFBTRANS to use the Liblouis tables, that would mean that it would become much easier to keep NFBTRANS up to date.

Greg
> On May 11, 2016, at 9:01 AM, Steve Jacobson via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Gregg,
> 
> I know of no UEB tables for NFBTRANS.  I have not pushed to do anything
> because I thought as long as two years ago that there would be a LIBLOUIS
> solution for Windows, but I know of nothing that runs under Windows that
> provides the same functionality of NFBTRANS.  For those unfamiliar with the
> LIBLOUIS project, it is a library of routines that a program can call to do
> braille translation, and it supports many languages.  Generally, it does not
> do formatting, though.  There is a second library called LIBLOUISUDTL which
> includes formatting as well.  It has a program that uses the library called
> FILE2BRL that works differently than NFBTRANS but could allow someone to
> create translated and formatted braille.  Unfortunately, there seems to be
> some big challenges in getting FILE2BRL to compile under windows due to some
> library issues.  Braille Blaster is far more advanced than NFBTRANS, being
> closer to Duxbury in functionality, but there are still some rough edges.
> However, it might do the trick for some people.  
> 
> I think John Boyer is on this list and I am counting on him correcting me if
> I am wrong.  I do not mean the above to sound negative regarding LIBLOUIS,
> but it appears to me that LIBLOUIS is more complicated to get the same
> functionality out of it under Windows in terms of a stand-alone translator.
> NVDA and possibly some other programs do use it successfully, though, but
> they are accessing various routines from within their code.  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney via
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> Cc: Greg Kearney <gkearney at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] NFBTRANS
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> Just for completeness I would mention that I have NFBtrans compiled and
> running on a Macintosh computer as well. The big issue with it that I see is
> that there seems to be no UEB tables for it. It there is I would like to
> know how to get them.
> 
> There is also the liblouis system but I don't know much about getting that
> to run under Windows. Works fine under MacOS X and is the foundation of my
> Louis braille translator program for that platform.
> 
> https://www.cbtbc.org/braille/louis/
> https://www.cbtbc.org/tools/embosser/
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>> On May 11, 2016, at 7:44 AM, Steve Jacobson via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Kathy,
>> 
>> I did manage to get NFBTRANS recompiled so that it will work on a 64-bit
>> system.  We also were able to get the WINTRANS part updated as well to run
>> it from inside Windows without agoing to the command prompt.  However,
> there
>> are no plans to get NFBTRANS to fully support UEB.  Some changes to tables
>> would get us part way there, but there are passage indicators that cannot
>> work right without program changes.
>> 
>> I don't know if the newest version is on NFBNET or not, but I could send
> it
>> to you if you want.  If it would be helpful, I can just send you the
>> executable that has been recompiled or the whole thing.  Let me know.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Stev Jacobsone
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cathy Schroeder
>> via nfbcs
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:02 AM
>> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Cathy Schroeder <cathy at sks.com>
>> Subject: [nfbcs] NFBTRANS
>> 
>> I know I am dating myself but here goes.
>> 
>> Many of you will remember back to the production of NFBTRANS, a free
> Braille
>> Translator that the NFB produced. I am trying to use it and am finding
> that
>> I cannot run it on Windows 764. Does anyone know of an easy solution to
>> this? Do we have a version that will run on this platform?
>> 
>> For as little Braille printing as I do, I can't see paying for Duxbury.
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