[nfbcs] Research

Andy Borka sonfire11 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 22 19:43:43 UTC 2017 

Ultimately, no one provides a solution because the line in title 3 of the ADA that states a private entity is not required to provide public accommodations if doing so is a burden. Most schools try to use that as an easy way out. Since there isn’t a standard regulation forcing private entities to have public accommodations regardless of the circumstances, nothing will get done in this area.

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 2:28 PM, Sabra Ewing via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I don't know if it would have been helpful. Instead of providing
> solutions, many people just talk about how difficult things are.
> 
> On 2/22/17, Mike Gorse via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I agree that any occupation can potentially be difficult.
>> 
>> I have a CS degree but am hesitant to fill out a survey about it--I
>> haven't been in a college classroom since 2001, so my idea of what it is
>> like might be dated, although I'd guess that one's experience will vary
>> depending on the school. I sometimes had accessibility issues that I
>> didn't resolve well; they were mainly with math and EE-type courses that
>> were somewhat peripheral to what I felt that I needed to learn. Maybe it
>> would've helped to be on a list such as this one.
>> 
>> On Wed, 22 Feb 2017, John Heim via nfbcs wrote:
>> 
>>> Any occupation can be difficult for a blind person. IMO, computer
>>> science is one of the least problematic.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 02/22/2017 11:13 AM, Amanda Lacy via nfbcs wrote:
>>>> I have a CS degree. I cannot in good conscience recommend it to other
>>>> blind students unless they accept that they will experience a lot of
>>>> hurt. I don't have satisfying answers to most of your questions.
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/21/17, Michael via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Andy,
>>>>> Thank you for your response. Before answering your questions, I will
>>> preface
>>>>> my response that this project is entirely predicated on ensuring other
>>> blind
>>>>> students, who may be considering computer science, do not do what I did;
>>>>> namely, believing that blind people cannot do computer science. Now,
>>>>> your
>>>>> questions:
>>>>> (1) No University, community college, or vocational school is funding
>>> this;
>>>>> this is an assignment that I have received on behalf of the Louisiana
>>> Center
>>>>> for the Blind (LCB) for my technology class.
>>>>> (2) I graduated from the University of Nevada, Reno, this past December
>>> with
>>>>> an Honors B.A. in Philosophy with an emphasis in logic, metaphysics, and
>>>>> epistemology.
>>>>> (3) This guide will serve to educate prospective computer science
>>>>> students
>>>>> who are blind. When I was in high school, I was extremely interested in
>>>>> doing computer science. I was told that blind people could not do
>>>>> computer
>>>>> science; mistakenly, I believed this to be true and thus proceeded into
>>> the
>>>>> liberal arts. If I can provide clarity to other students thinking about
>>>>> computer science, or elucidate blind students when it comes to the
>>> copasity
>>>>> of blind people, I would be very happy. As it stands, the only place I
>>> know
>>>>> for sure this research will end up is the national Association of Blind
>>>>> Students website, as I sit on the board and can make that happen.
>>> Otherwise,
>>>>> I have no idea.
>>>>> (4) This is true. I did not make this anonymous. If people are willing to
>>>>> answer, I would be very happy, and will of course cite you, or not cite
>>> you,
>>>>> depending on your permission. If people are not willing to, I totally
>>>>> understand that as well.
>>>>> I hope I was able to address your concerns.
>>>>> For anyone else who wishes to help me out, you can email your responses
>>>>> to
>>>>> my email (mausbun at nevada.unr.edu) or, if you feel confortible, just
>>>>> responding to this thread.
>>>>> Thank you again for all your attention and time!
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Michael Ausbun
>>>>> Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Nevada.
>>>>> Secretary, National Association of blind Students
>>>>> Student, The Louisiana Center for the Blind
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andy B. via
>>> nfbcs
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 2:24 PM
>>>>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Andy B. <sonfire11 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Research
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am interested in answering these questions. However, you never
>>>>> displayed
>>>>> your credentials or qualifications in the subject. What school is
>>>>> funding
>>>>> this study? Where did you graduate and with what degree? What do you
>>> intend
>>>>> on doing with the guide when it is finished? The results of this survey
>>> are
>>>>> not anonymous. Therefore, people might be hesitant.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael via
>>> nfbcs
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 2:45 PM
>>>>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Michael <mausbun at nevada.unr.edu>
>>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Research
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello All:
>>>>> 	My name is Michael Ausbun, and I am currently a student at the
>>> Louisiana
>>>>> Center for the Blind. I am conducting research, to develop a
>>>>> comprehensive
>>>>> guide for prospective computer science students. I would much appreciate
>>>>> 
>>> it
>>>>> if you would take some time and answer the following questions.
>>>>> 	Thank you for your attention in this matter.
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Michael Ausbun
>>>>> 
>>>>> Research questions:
>>>>> Advocacy:
>>>>> (1)	What accommodations do you believe were most beneficial to you in
>>>>> completing your degree?
>>>>> (2)	What accommodation(s) were necessary when completing visual
>>> components
>>>>> of one’s degree requirements?
>>>>> (3)	In what ways have you advocated for the modification of materials to
>>>>> ensure equal access for yourself or future computer science students?
>>>>> (4)	What is the most important question(s) a computer science student
>>> should
>>>>> ask their instructors before and during a selected course of study?
>>>>> (5)	Are there any Universities, companies, or organizations who have
>>>>> been
>>>>> greater benefactors?
>>>>> Academics:
>>>>> (1)	How much math and science is necessary for a person to be successful
>>>>> within the computer science field.
>>>>> (2)	In general, are materials accessible with access technology?
>>>>> (3)	What are some effective, and somewhat universal, techniques for
>>>>> manipulating and writing computer languages?
>>>>> (4)	In what ways did your assignments get modified, to establish equal
>>>>> access to all requirements?
>>>>> (5)	What are some effective ways for designing accessible algorithms and
>>>>> data structures?
>>>>> (6)	When developing a portfolio, did you find an accessible way of
>>> publicly
>>>>> displaying your code, or for hosting your portfolio?
>>>>> (7)	After publishing your code, what methods do you use to ensure the
>>>>> visible code is visually appealing or readable?
>>>>> (8)	Are there any courses you might recommend to take in high school to
>>>>> prepare someone going into the computer science field?
>>>>> (9)	Besides the source work required to obtain your degree, what
>>> additional
>>>>> course work might you recommend to enhance one’s employment
>>>>> effectiveness?
>>>>> Access technology:
>>>>> (1)	What access technology gave you the greatest degree of opportunity
>>>>> to
>>>>> compete on an equal playing field with your peers?
>>>>> (2)	What challenges did access technology present when interacting with
>>> the
>>>>> technology required to complete tasks and assignments for your computer
>>>>> science degree or profession?
>>>>> (3)	What role does access technology play in the completion of your
>>>>> daily
>>>>> assignments or tasks?
>>>>> (4)	How might modifications to standard technology create more
>>> opportunity
>>>>> for usability with access technology?
>>>>> General technology:
>>>>> (1)	In what ways is the general technology inaccessible when paired with
>>>>> access technology? Are there any work arounds for these issues?
>>>>> (2)	What sort of accommodations are necessary for the use of most
>>>>> general
>>>>> technology used in this field of study or profession?
>>>>> (3)	Can standard tasks be completed on a unit without extensive
>>> modification
>>>>> or accommodations?
>>>>> Does most technology come ready to use? Are there ways to increase one’s
>>>>> productivity when using Python JavaScript C++ swift and racket, and
>>>>> integrated development environments (IDEs)—such as CodeLite, Eclipse,
>>>>> NetBeans, VisualWX, Xcode, and KDevelop?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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