[nfbcs] Beware of DIgitalOcean

[Vincenzo Rubano]

Hi Mike,

that’s right, LiSSH is a Web Interface to the Linode console. I usually manage my VPS through a standard SSH connection, but there are cases where access to the console is needed and you cannot ssh into your server. ;)

You mentioned the SSH gateway for the console, here’s the reason why I asked you to elaborate a little bit more on that: the only method I know to access the console is the Web interface and it is not great from an accessibility point of view.


> Il giorno 03 gen 2017, alle ore 23:41, Mike Gorse <mike at straddlethebox.org> ha scritto:
> 
> You mention Safari and Firefox, so I wonder if you were using their web interface. I haven't tried to use it that way (I was just logging into their gateway through ssh). Also, I'm using yasr on linux--I wouldn't use a GUI screen reader for heavy terminal tasks if I have a choice, though Linux has more options there than other OSes. Regardless, using a ssh client would be worth a try if that isn't what you were using.
> 
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017, Vincenzo Rubano wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> I tried it about a year ago. I managed to use it, but wasn’t a great experience… The focus jumped around a little bit too much for my tastes when reading the output. The output of a command wasn’t read automatically as well.
>> 
>> I used it with VoiceOver, Mac OS and Safari as well as with Firefox/Windows 8.1 and NVDA. I was much more successful with the latter combination.
>> 
>> 
>>> Il giorno 03 gen 2017, alle ore 23:22, Mike Gorse <mike at straddlethebox.org> ha scritto:
>>> 
>>> Hi Vincenzo,
>>> 
>>> What problems are you having specifically using lish? What os/screen reader are you using? I haven't used it extensively, but I've logged in a couple of times to test that it does what I expect, and I didn't find any particular problems with it--it seemed to essentially act like any other terminal application.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017, Vincenzo Rubano wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Mike,
>>>> 
>>>> could you elaborate a little bit more on the SSH gateway for the console to a Linode VPS?
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve tried LISSH but I found it pretty painful to use from an accessibility point of view…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Il giorno 03 gen 2017, alle ore 20:57, Mike Gorse via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> ha scritto:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd been using DigitalOcean to host a vps. I tried to upgrade the system, and something went wrong such that it won't boot, or doesn't set up networking correctly. I went to try to access the console on Linux, and, with most of the OS/browser/screen reader combinations I tried, I got a "canvas not supported" error. Even if I didn't see this error, I suspect that they're using the html5 canvas element and that the console interface wouldn't be accessible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not looking into their mechanism for accessing the console before signing up was a big mistake. You don't need access to the console until you do. I'm switching to linode, since they provide a ssh gateway for accessing the server's console, and it turns out to be a better fit for me regardless.
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