[nfbcs] JAWS does not read the Windows 10 CMD prompt automatically

Tue Feb 13 22:36:25 UTC 2018

If the person doesn’t want to pay to upgrade to JAWS 2018, NVDA is an option.

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> On Feb 13, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Doug Lee via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> As a very seasoned console window user, I can corroborate: JAWS 2018 works with the new console windows, without using the legacy console. I've been using this arrangement for several weeks now.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 03:16:50PM -0500, NFBCS mailing list wrote:
> Tony:
> You are responding to an email from Glen Gordon, who says this:
> 
>    Hi, JooYoung,
> 
>    Changes in the Fall Creators' update required that JAWS rework how
>    it detects newly written text in console windows. This is fixed in
>    the current version
>    of JAWS 2018.
>    Unfortunately, there isn't a workaround for earlier JAWS versions.
> 
> This says what you're saying, but provides a solution: windows 10
> updates changed how the console works; there is a fix in Jaws 2018.
> HTH,
> 
> 2/13/2018 2:44 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
>> 
>> Tyler,
>> 
>> 
>> With all my respect, I don't think I'm starting a war. User had a
>> problem and I suggested two ways to work around it.
>> 
>> 
>> I have Jaws 18 installed on my computer and Windows 10 and I just
>> confirmed that it deosn't work with command line. Same is true for my
>> wife. Same as true for a few blind friends who are using Jaws. I don't
>> think I have a problem on my end. If it works for you, I suspect you
>> are using legacy console. I need to use some applications that are
>> incompatible with legacy console, so that's not an option for me.
>> That's why I suggested NVDA. If that person needs to use such
>> applications, I'm afraid NVDA might be the only option for them.
>> 
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> ??
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/13/2018 11:30 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
>>> Tony:
>>> Without starting a screenreader war, I've used the windows command
>>> prompt for years with Jaws and it works just fine. The email which
>>> you are replying to explains that 2018 has a command prompt fix, and
>>> I happen to be doing work in command prompt on windows 10 with jaws
>>> 2018. So in short, it might be worth investigation on your issue, but
>>> it's incorrect to say that Jaws is broken and has been for years with
>>> command prompt.
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>>> On 2/13/2018 12:50 PM, Tony Malykh via nfbcs wrote:
>>>> Hi Jooyoung
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Command line prompt has been broken in Jaws forever. I complained to
>>>> Freedom Scientific about two years ago, and they just keep promising
>>>> that they will fix it in the next release, which never happens. I
>>>> have Jaws 18 on my computer and I just confirmed that it still
>>>> doesn't work.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> There is one workaround you can try. Go to properties of CMD, go to
>>>> Advanced tab and check "Use legacy console". Some programs won't
>>>> work with legacy console, but hopefully you don't need them. Or if
>>>> you're like me, consider switching to NVDA - it works with CMD and
>>>> in my experience tends to work better with other program.s
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tony
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/12/2018 12:50 PM, Glen Gordon via nfbcs wrote:
>>>>> Hi, JooYoung,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Changes in the Fall Creators' update required that JAWS rework how
>>>>> it detects newly written text in console windows. This is fixed in
>>>>> the current version of JAWS 2018.
>>>>> Unfortunately, there isn't a workaround for earlier JAWS versions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --Glen
>>>>> 
>>>>> Glen Gordon
>>>>> VFO | Vice President & Chief Technology Officer
>>>>> 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
>>>>> T 727-299-6230
>>>>> ggordon at vfo-group.com
>>>>> www.vfo-group.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfbcs <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jooyoung via nfbcs
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:09 PM
>>>>> To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Jooyoung <sjysky at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] JAWS does not read the Windows 10 CMD prompt
>>>>> automatically
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> ??
>>>>> I have a question concerning Windows 10 CMD prompt reading with JAWS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have recently set up JAWS 17 on Windows 10 system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I open a CMD window, JAWS does not read the command prompt
>>>>> automatically; I have to manually use the JAWS cursor to interact
>>>>> with the screen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> FYI, I have already set the "Screen Echo" as "All," and I also have
>>>>> tried "Highlighted" as well. But none of them worked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I opened the prompt using administrator's permission. Also, I tried
>>>>> just general user permission. Regretably, none of them worked, either.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ??
>>>>> Does anyone know how to tackle this issue?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any advice would be so much appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ??
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> 
>>>>> ??
>>>>> JooYoung
>>>>> 
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