[nfbcs] Laptop without bloatware

Tue May 29 16:59:12 UTC 2018

That's fine. I did this on a brand new HP Envy, so I wasn't worried 
about losing any data, licenses, or preinstalled applications. It's just 
a matter of downloading a tool from the site I provided and then running 
it. There's no need to create any install media. All of the instructions 
and information is right there on the site I provided. I'm pretty sure I 
did all of this with no sighted help, but I did it about a year ago, so 
my memory might be a bit fuzzy. I also figured if anything went wrong, I 
could still go into HP's recovery mode and return my laptop to the way 
it was when I purchased it. Obviously this would require some sighted 
help, but if you have that then there's nothing to lose except time. Of 
course, I get it if someone is willing to pay a manufacturer a bit more 
for a system where you get a clean install of Windows and don't need to 
go through these steps. I can't tell anyone else how to spend their 
money or whether it's worth it or not. That's up to each person to 
decide. I don't mind spending the extra money myself, but in this case, 
I wanted to see what would happen, and I was willing to take the chance 
and spend the time. For me, it paid off.

On 05/29/2018 08:16 AM, Tracy Carcione via nfbcs wrote:
> Hi Chris.
> I saw you said that, but it sounds very painful to me.  I really do not
> enjoy messing about with the nitty-gritty of PC's.  If installing Windows
> is as simple as, say, installing Jaws, or updating IOS, then I could
> tackle it, but if I have to do things like "sideways installation of
> drivers", forget about it.
> Tracy
>
>> I know I'm repeating myself, but when I bought my HP Envy, I just
>> installed a clean copy of Windows to remove all of HP's software and the
>> trialware that came preinstalled on my system. It didn't cost me any
>> extra. I just followed the instructions at
>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10startfresh
>>
>>
>> On 05/28/2018 01:22 PM, Tracy Carcione via nfbcs wrote:
>>> Thanks to everyone for all the interesting suggestions.
>>> It seems like not getting bloatware makes a laptop more expensive,
>>> maybe.  I
>>> suppose the bloatware sellers give a kickback?
>>> I'm going to ask my boss for ideas, too, as he really knows this stuff.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfbcs [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Doise
>>> via
>>> nfbcs
>>> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 1:19 PM
>>> To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List
>>> Cc: Michael Doise; Nancy Coffman
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Laptop without bloatware
>>>
>>> A good way to shop for Windows laptops is to look for one that says it
>>> is a
>>> Microsoft Signature edition machine. This ensures that you get the
>>> intended
>>> Windows experience without bloatware.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps you guys.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 27, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Nancy Coffman via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Keep us posted on what you find please. I think there are a lot of us
>>> looking for one of those.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On May 21, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Chris Nestrud via nfbcs
>>>>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> I recently bought a Lenovo P51. It was pretty much standard Windows 10
>>>>> as far as I could tell, maybe one or two Lenovo-specific apps. Nice
>>>>> keyboard including numpad, good build quality, fast, no issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 01:19:10PM -0400, Tracy Carcione via nfbcs
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I'd like to research laptops without any of the usual bloatware
>>>>>> loaded.
>>>>>> I'm thinking all I want is the OS, and I'll add what I want, thank
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> very much.
>>>>>> Can someone suggest the right words for search for such a thing on
>>> Amazon
>>>>>> or Froogle?  It's easy to search for something "with" but not so easy
>>> for
>>>>>> "without".
>>>>>> Or, if someone has bought such a machine, what brand and where?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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