[nfbcs] PDF with words run together

Mon Feb 11 21:26:57 UTC 2019

Theworst is wen you use every trick in your book,  including multiple OCR programs, cutting ans pasting text, converting to other formats from the recognized page ot still have the same problem.  

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From: nfbcs <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Dr Denise M Robinson via nfbcs
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 11:57 AM
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Cc: Dr Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nfbcs] PDF with words run together

Yes I have heard it also. But typically there is a different way to do a save as or as Nancy mentioned it after you save the PDF you literally do an application key in file explore The PDF file that you just saved then down arrow to open with Word and it can turn it all into great text. This is Different than  trying to save it while it is open in PDF. You can open a PDF then alt f to file then down arrow to and save as other and text and open in notepad then copy and paste that into word and often that will fix it too. But it is more steps than the one Nancy mentioned. You can also have Google docs OCR it and that does a great job too I would love for anyone to send me any PDF issued document and I would love to take a look at it. Please feel free to do so with the problematic PDFs I really love a good challenge Sent from Dr Denise M Robinson 

> On Feb 11, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Peter Donahue via nfbcs <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Hello Denice and everyone,
> 
>    Mary and I have noticed this phenomenon as well. When we attempt to read certain PDF documents the words appear to be run together. It's hard to know if this is a flub of the document's creator or if the trouble lies with our screen readers. This is something the screen reader developers should look at to resolve this issue if it's due to screen reader bugs.
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> Peter Donahue
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> Tracy, attach it and lets us take a look to see if we can get 
> something better
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> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:27 AM Tracy Carcione via nfbcs 
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>> Thanks Doug.  The option Left-to-right, top-to-bottom worked better.
>> There are still some words run together, but a lot less.
>> I also tried Nancy's idea of opening it with Word, but there must be 
>> a lot of images or something--Word wouldn't read much.
>> Thanks to both of you.  NFBCS comes through again!
>> Tracy
>> 
>>> I would call the following answer something between an explanation 
>>> and an educated guess.
>>> 
>>> I believe that when a PDF document is not "tagged," which means 
>>> marked up for assistive technology, it is difficult for programs to 
>>> figure out things like where a word starts and ends, what is a 
>>> heading versus a paragraph versus a table, etc. Sometimes, the 
>>> guesswork programs use in such a case can be wrong. In print 
>>> nowadays, the size of a character, and even the width of a space 
>>> between words, can vary.
>>> 
>>> You might try changing the reading order, which should be an option 
>>> you see when Acrobat launches. "Infer reading order from document" 
>>> is usually the default, but there are two alternatives.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 08:24:52AM -0500, NFBCS mailing list wrote:
>>> Why do many PDF docs run words together, and is there anything I can 
>>> do about it once I've received such a document?
>>> Here is an example from the doc I got for an upcoming class:
>>> Stepinto theworldofanalyticswitha thoroughintroductionto ...
>>> 
>>> It's comprehensible, especially with the help of a braille display, 
>>> but
>> it
>>> takes some effort.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
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