[NFBCS] Access Tips

Sun Apr 12 02:31:03 UTC 2020

Hello:

My experience is that Outlook is set by default not to allow downloading of
pictures.  There is often an information bar that comes up with messages
containing graphics explaining that graphics have not been downloaded. That
setting can be changed in file, options, trust center. Once pictures have
downloaded, you should be able to use contro+shift+insert+g to get a list of
them.  Maybe picture smart would recognize the text in the graphics.

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Curtis,

Sometimes I have emails at work with an extremely long chain in every note,
and I have used this approach and copied only the desired graphic into word.
Sometimes that works very well.  Other times it hasn't for me because there
are sometimes multiple graphics making it harder to find the one I need.  It
would be really nice, though, if I could get the OCR process to work well
enough directly on the message window to at least let me know if I need to
do more with the imbedded image.  Very nice tips.

Best regards,

Steve

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Hello Steve and everyone:

I found an email with an imbedded screen print. JAWS did not pick up any
graphics. However, NVDA was able to detect the presence of a graphic. I
could not read the message with Narrator.

When, in JAWS, I pressed INSERT+V and typed graphics, I found that for the
virtual cursor, graphics were set to none. When I changed it to all, I then
picked up more than one graphic. This may be the only way to detect an
imbedded screen print.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

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Curtis,

I often have this problem and have solved it by following some of your
steps.  What I don't get, and perhaps you know the answer to this, is why
doing OCR on the email window doesn't even provide any sign that the graphic
is there.  If I print out the note and look at it with the Optacon, the
printing on the imbedded image is very clear and readable.  In fact, I would
say in general that I have found doing OCR on the window not to be all that
helpful.  In all fairness, I have found that it is useful on occasion.  The
process you have outlined is a good one, and I wonder how much time we are
all collectively spending on this without knowing why.  Any thoughts?

Best regards,

Steve

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People who send out email oftentimes like to imbed images of data into the
email-data that results from something in Windows called a print screen.
What they do is to print the screen to the Windows clipboard and then paste
the image into the email. The place where I live frequently does this when
things like restaurant menus are sent out via email.

Unfortunately, for JAWS users, there is no indication while reading the
email that there is a graphic imbedded in the message. So, unless you know
that something should be there, you might well miss a critical piece of
information that somebody wants to send to you.

One way to know whether or not an email contains an imbedded graphic is to
select the entire message body (press Control A), copy it to the clipboard
(Control C), and then pasting the entire thing into a blank Word document.
In this way, you will know (because JAWS will tell you) that there are some
graphics n the message.

Now that you have pasted the message into Word, you should save this as a
PDF file. Once that is done, you can use JAWS Convenient OCR to perform
optical character recognition against the PDF file. Using File Explorer,
focus on the PDF file. Now, press Shift F10 to bring up the context menu.
Arrow down to Convenient OCR With JAWS and press Enter. In a few seconds, a
window will open up containing the extracted text.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong

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