[NFBCS] Seeking mentor - what we have so far

Rayn Darren rayndarren at gmail.com
Sat Jan 2 00:29:34 UTC 2021 

Christopher - I do believe you are correct regarding Zoom.

Reece - I think that Outlook might not like us, lol, I never see your messages directly! Transcripts are a wonderful idea, I can get them done on the cheap so no worries.

Sarah

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Cc: chaltain at outlook.com
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Seeking mentor - what we have so far

I'm not sure recording is an issue. When recording is enabled, at least in MS Teams, everyone gets a message that the meeting is being recorded and continuing to participate gives your consent to the recording. I'd assume Zoom does the same thing and that this is legally binding.

I think the ideas being tossed out are good ones, and I think the needs of the deaf-blind should be accommodated, but I hesitate to put too much expectations on the instructors. As far as I know, this is still a voluntary effort, so I think we should be respectful of those and their available time and resources who are willing to do what they can to share their knowledge. For my part, I can learn a lot through tutorials, and I'm just looking at this effort to fill in some gaps from people with real experience.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Reece O'Bryan via 
> NFBCS
> Sent: Friday, January 1, 2021 5:00 AM
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> Cc: Reece O'Bryan <reece.obryan at icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Seeking mentor - what we have so far
> 
> I second all of this.
> 
> The only other thing I would like to add is an addition to my earlier 
> idea of the recordings... I am very sorry, I was not even considering 
> deaf-blind participants when I brung up recording these training 
> sessions. If we are going to record these sessions, especially if they 
> are going to be put up in an archive for others in NFB, then I think 
> that the training should be transcribed for those that are not able to 
> listen. I want to reiterate that it is very important that everyone 
> gives permission for their voices to be recorded for this. Each state 
> in the United States have differing levels of protections when it 
> comes to privacy and being recorded. Here in my state of Kentucky it 
> is legal to record without explicit consent from everyone speaking, 
> but this is not the case in many states. We could potentially start 
> the meetings with everyone announcing their first and last names and 
> also saying some thing like, “my name is Reece O’Bryan and I give 
> permission for my devices audio to be recorded”. I know that some of 
> you may think this is a little ridiculous, which I agree that it is, but I think that in the most litigious country in the world we should take any needed small steps to protect our organization.
> 
> Just from past experience, this is only my personal opinion, but I 
> think that we should be careful setting a hard time limit. If 
> instructors are nice enough to volunteer to teach people either as a 
> one-off or ongoing, then I think it should be up to them to set the 
> hours or possibly a window of time. We have a couple different people 
> offering to volunteer and teach, but if something happens and all of 
> us that want to learn can’t come together at the same time for these 
> teachers, then this will end up being more of a recorded training. 
> There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but the format should be 
> established before hand. I have another thought, but I am far too 
> ignorant with programming to know if this is even valid, so I would 
> very much appreciate and answer. The assumption Hass to be that all of 
> us will have different machines we are working from. To prevent any 
> sort of confusion, will we also need to be learning the same language 
> using the same app. I think this is referred to as an I.D.E, but 
> again, refer to my ignorance. Let me put this a different way as I 
> feel I am not correctly explaining. My question is essentially asking 
> if we need some sort of standards or prerequisites for our machines so 
> that we are development in a similar environment. If one person is 
> programming, coding, scripting or however the correct Termanology is, 
> using say Python in Visual Studio Code and another is writing python in something other than visual studio code, then will there be errors? I am not sure if this is even a valid concern and I would hope that the programming languages stay the same no matter how it is being developed.
> 
> If it does happen to be the case that there are particular libraries 
> or add-ons that we all may need, then we should create a canned 
> prerequisite form of what is needed to be download it and put on your 
> computer to get started following along with the training. My last 
> thought on this is that there needs to be some classification as for experience levels and the training pertaining to the Wiki.
> 
> I have a very minimal amount of knowledge with programming, coding and 
> scripting. However, I will gladly help this project in any way 
> possible! I very much appreciate those of you offering to volunteer 
> and I also want to say thank you to the original starter of this 
> thread for not being upset at me also wanting in on your training. :)
> 
> -Reece
> 
> > On Dec 31, 2020, at 8:57 PM, mail via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > I second the time proposal.
> >
> > My weekdays available are Monday until 2030, and Friday.  Weekends 
> > would also work.
> >
> > Bryan Duarte, do you have recordings already that would work for 
> > python?  Would you be willing to teach a python class from scratch?
> >
> > Do we want a class with assignments, etc.  Or just a class with 
> > everyone going at your own pace?
> >
> > Since Windows hates me, I would be using linux with speakup.
> > I don't know how much difference the tools we use would make Bryan 
> > may also know how much a variety of students with a variety of tools 
> > would make.
> >
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