From rysteve at comcast.net  Mon Mar  2 20:03:07 2026
From: rysteve at comcast.net (Ryan Stevens)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2026 15:03:07 -0500
Subject: [NFBCS] Packt Publishing accessibility
Message-ID: <09d501dcaa7f$96eec070$c4cc4150$@comcast.net>

Hello,

 

Has anybody on this list subscribed to Packt books and videos for increasing
your computer knowledge? If so, is it accessible enough to make it worth my
while to use them?

 

Thanks,

Ryan Stevens

 

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From westbchris at gmail.com  Wed Mar  4 22:31:38 2026
From: westbchris at gmail.com (Chris Westbrook)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2026 17:31:38 -0500
Subject: [NFBCS] anyone coding generaqtive AI?
Message-ID: 
 <CA+6QrLiVyqz1us4df6yq2j-0EXh49rxxwC8ohvoZn_JeecW7qw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm curious if there are other blind people exploring the field of AI, not
just using chat gpt or other models, but actually creating chatbots or
other products for companies and, for example, using synthetic data to do
evaluations, etc.? I am taking an online course from www.newline.co that is
very accessible and the people running it have been very good to work with
but I wondered if other blind people were working in this space? Thanks.
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Sat Mar  7 08:04:35 2026
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Ty Littlefield)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2026 01:04:35 -0700
Subject: [NFBCS] audible appears to have been fixed (sort of)
Message-ID: <c246f8b7-78e3-4e73-b80e-9eed81597c35@tysdomain.com>

Hi all,

Since I shouted this out a couple weeks ago I wanted to note that 
Audible released version 4.65.2 which has "improvements to the library."

They didn't fix the fact that buttons now read as "button popup button," 
but they did make it so that activation does what it used to, and you 
can now flick down and choose an action.

I had to go to the app store and force the update, but once I did the 
experience is better. It's enough for me to read the last couple credits 
and cancel my membership at least!


Thanks,

-- 

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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Sun Mar 15 18:08:27 2026
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 18:08:27 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] STEM Scholarship Contribution
Message-ID: 
 <LVXPR14MB958153CE3B9666FC0767B18BC3AA43A@LVXPR14MB958153.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Hello,

The Science and Engineering Division and the Computer Science Division are raising funds for a $10,000 "Science Technology Engineering and Mathematics" (STEM) scholarship given by the NFB, to a worthy student at the NFB convention.

Please consider donating to the NFB towards this scholarship.

To donate:

There are two ways to donate to the NFB STEM Scholarship: one method is online, and the second method is by mail.

If you wish to make an online donation for the STEM scholarship, go to "NFB Contribute Science<https://nfb.org/contribute/Science>" and fill out the required fields. On the "Contribution Note" field please enter "STEM Scholarship". Once your donation has been submitted, you will receive an automatic acknowledgment of your donation. Please forward this donation acknowledgement to John Miller (Johnmillerphd at hotmail.com) so that he can track our progress towards our funding goal.

To donate by mail: Please make a check payable to NFB.
On the memo line write "STEM Scholarship".
Mail the check to
NFB accounting/scholarship
200 East Wells St. at Jernigan Place
Baltimore, MD 21230.

Please make your contributions by March 1, 2027, so that your contributions can count towards the 2027 STEM Scholarship.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
Email: ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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From dana.mohsen.azim at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 05:58:31 2026
From: dana.mohsen.azim at gmail.com (dana mohsen)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 22:58:31 -0700
Subject: [NFBCS] Wordpress Accessibility
Message-ID: 
 <CADWS9oTv6Nk8aweS4vzqX5pnArxbAExwVUdztC2Au6VG3m9aFg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,
What are your experiences with the accessibility of Wordpress?
I have tried it briefly, and it was alright for very simple blog posts, but
I need to use it more extensively for a project.
Thanks,
Dana
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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Mon Mar 16 09:21:19 2026
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 09:21:19 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] NFBCS Registration, Scholarship Donation,
 E-mail List Announcements
Message-ID: 
 <DSWPR14MB958149F147E266561E746F3A9AAA40A@DSWPR14MB958149.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Folks,

We are in the middle of the NFB Computer Science division's 2026 registration period. Below you will find instructions for registering, or renewing registration, with the division, making a STEM scholarship donation, and joining the division's e-mail list.

NFB Computer Science Division Registration

To either become a registered member of the Computer Science division, or to renew your membership, go to "NFBCS member registration form for 2026<https://web.nfbcal.org/nfbcsreg>". The dues are $5 a year per person.

STEM Scholarship Donations

The Science and Engineering Division and the Computer Science Division are raising funds for a $10,000 "Science Technology Engineering and Mathematics" (STEM) scholarship given by the NFB, to a worthy student at the NFB convention.

Please consider donating to the NFB towards this scholarship.

To donate:

There are two ways to donate to the NFB STEM Scholarship: one method is online, and the second method is by mail.

If you wish to make an online donation for the STEM scholarship, go to "NFB Contribute Science<https://nfb.org/contribute/Science>" and fill out the required fields. On the "Contribution Note" field please enter "STEM Scholarship". Once your donation has been submitted, you will receive an automatic acknowledgment of your donation. Please forward this donation acknowledgement to John Miller (Johnmillerphd at hotmail.com) so that he can track our progress towards our funding goal.

To donate by mail: Please make a check payable to NFB.
On the memo line write "STEM Scholarship".
Mail the check to
NFB accounting/scholarship
200 East Wells St. at Jernigan Place
Baltimore, MD 21230.

Please make your contributions by March 1, 2027, so that your contributions can count towards the 2027 STEM Scholarship.

NFB Computer Science E-mail List Subscription Page

The NFBnet.org<https://www.nfbnet.org/>" website contains the Email/Web/FTP service of the National Federation of the Blind.

The first link on the page is where you go to join or drop NFBnet mailing lists, as well as browse the archives. Clicking that link opens a page containing the NFB e-mail lists. Search for "computer" and follow the subscription instructions.

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
Email: ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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From lewislwood at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 11:39:50 2026
From: lewislwood at gmail.com (Lewis Wood)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 06:39:50 -0500
Subject: [NFBCS] JAWS DOM changes in web apps?
In-Reply-To: <a445f2ea-3845-4d6e-afe6-835b7fec9a17@tysdomain.com>
References: <a445f2ea-3845-4d6e-afe6-835b7fec9a17@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <017301dcb539$9a379710$cea6c530$@gmail.com>

I noticed the same issue.  I am having to do f6 and back with shift f6.

 

Very annoying..

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ty Littlefield via NFBCS
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2025 11:57 AM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Ty Littlefield <tyler at tysdomain.com>
Subject: [NFBCS] JAWS DOM changes in web apps?

 

Hi all,

I've been working on some frontend code at work lately, and one of the issues I'm running into is that when content is changed on a page (for example in a react app where a component refreshes), JAWS does not always see these changes. This is a particular problem in a component with a live region, because JAWS will sometimes re-read the prior content in the live region rather than the most recent.

In general, what notifies JAWS of a DOM change? More specifically, are there any tips or tricks for handling this properly from within react/other applications like this that are component based? Generally this doesn't seem to be an issue, but we seem to have a pattern in play that is causing problems with JAWS (NVDA is perfectly fine).

Thanks,

-- 

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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 13:55:51 2026
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 09:55:51 -0400
Subject: [NFBCS] Wordpress Accessibility
In-Reply-To: 
 <CADWS9oTv6Nk8aweS4vzqX5pnArxbAExwVUdztC2Au6VG3m9aFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CADWS9oTv6Nk8aweS4vzqX5pnArxbAExwVUdztC2Au6VG3m9aFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
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It's very accessible. Though, compared to Drupal, it is rather cluttered. I
don't know why WordPress has never improved its menu structure, but
WordPress is quite possibly the most accessible CMS with large mainstream
community support. You can do a ton of things outside of a basic blog.

Joe


On Mon, Mar 16, 2026 at 2:00 AM dana mohsen via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hello all,
> What are your experiences with the accessibility of Wordpress?
> I have tried it briefly, and it was alright for very simple blog posts,
> but I need to use it more extensively for a project.
> Thanks,
> Dana
>
> _______________________________________________
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> NFBCS:
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>


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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Mon Mar 16 14:40:24 2026
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Ty Littlefield)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 08:40:24 -0600
Subject: [NFBCS] Wordpress Accessibility
In-Reply-To: 
 <CADWS9oTv6Nk8aweS4vzqX5pnArxbAExwVUdztC2Au6VG3m9aFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CADWS9oTv6Nk8aweS4vzqX5pnArxbAExwVUdztC2Au6VG3m9aFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bf4c9dc7-670a-4838-bde4-2ffb3204a42e@tysdomain.com>

Hi,

wordpress works great. Sometimes you'll find weird themes, but overall 
the admin is super accessible and I haven't had issues. For drag/drop 
situations there are always workarounds and it provides the ability to 
change priority.

HTH,


*Ty Littlefield (he/him/his)*

  * From Bytes to Bites <https://tysdomain.com>|
  * Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/ty-lerlittlefield/>|
  * Github <https://github.com/tlfdev>

On 3/15/2026 11:58 PM, dana mohsen via NFBCS wrote:
> Hello all,
> What are your experiences with the accessibility of Wordpress?
> I have tried it briefly, and it was alright for very simple blog 
> posts, but I need to use it more extensively for a project.
> Thanks,
> Dana
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> NFBCS mailing list
> NFBCS at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFBCS:
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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Tue Mar 17 09:15:58 2026
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 09:15:58 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] Speaking Invitation for the Science and Engineering division
 of the
 NFB
In-Reply-To: 
 <DSWPR14MB95814911B0B88BF91D2FD778AEAA41A@DSWPR14MB958149.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
References: 
 <DSWPR14MB95814944045F64FB8C8BAB7A7CAA47A@DSWPR14MB958149.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
 <DSWPR14MB9581499D2D107D98AF20D21B00AA47A@DSWPR14MB958149.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: 
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Hello,

The Science and Engineering division is interested in hearing from individuals using the Monarch, or other multi-line, Braille display in their studies or work. The presentation would take place during the Science and Engineering division's annual meeting which will take place during the National Federation of the Blind<https://nfb.org/convention> annual convention which will take place from July 3 through 8, 2026,  in Austin TX. Our division meeting will take place from 6:30 PM to 10 PM on Sunday July 5, 2026.

If you are coming to the convention, would you consider giving our division a twenty-minute talk, with an additional five-minute question and answer period, on the topic of: how you use the multi-line display?

Thank you for your consideration.

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
Email: ljmaher03 at outlook.com<mailto:ljmaher03 at outlook.com>





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From emassey0135 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 17 19:47:04 2026
From: emassey0135 at gmail.com (Elijah Massey)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 14:47:04 -0500
Subject: [NFBCS] Speaking Invitation for the Science and Engineering
 division of the NFB
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
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From chong.curtis at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 01:02:28 2026
From: chong.curtis at gmail.com (Curtis Chong)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 01:02:28 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook
Message-ID: 
	<PH7PR15MB608371A6C1502715D4F2BFEAF54FA@PH7PR15MB6083.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Greetings all:

After more than a year of procrastination, I finally decided today to start familiarizing myself with Microsoft's New Outlook program. This New Outlook is planned to supersede what Microsoft now calls Outlook Classic such that support for the Outlook Classic software will be terminated some time in 2029.

Vispero, the company which manufactures and sells the JAWS screen reader, has already conducted two webinars on the new Outlook with a third webinar on the New Outlook calendar being presented on Thursday, March 26.

I would be happy to hear from anyone on this list who has experience with the New Outlook. I have this distinct perception that the nonvisual interface for screen reader users is far from perfect and even more chaotic and confusing than the Outlook Classic interface, which has evolved over literally decades.

I am asking anyone interested in sharing experiences with the New Outlook to contact me directly—either by email at chong.curtis at gmail.com or by phone at 515-306-1654.

Thank you kindly for your willingness to share.

Kind regards,

Curtis Chong


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From ryan.mann at bitsusers.org  Fri Mar 20 01:30:19 2026
From: ryan.mann at bitsusers.org (Ryan Mann)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2026 21:30:19 -0400
Subject: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
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Message-ID: <EBBCE267-511B-402C-A638-EE2B8E480CC3@bitsusers.org>

actually, I would also like to hear about peoples experiences with the new Outlook. Maybe we should talk about it on the list.
Ryan Mann
ryan.mann at bitsusers.org


> On Mar 19, 2026, at 9:03 PM, Curtis Chong via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ﻿
> Greetings all:
>  
> After more than a year of procrastination, I finally decided today to start familiarizing myself with Microsoft's New Outlook program. This New Outlook is planned to supersede what Microsoft now calls Outlook Classic such that support for the Outlook Classic software will be terminated some time in 2029.
>  
> Vispero, the company which manufactures and sells the JAWS screen reader, has already conducted two webinars on the new Outlook with a third webinar on the New Outlook calendar being presented on Thursday, March 26.
>  
> I would be happy to hear from anyone on this list who has experience with the New Outlook. I have this distinct perception that the nonvisual interface for screen reader users is far from perfect and even more chaotic and confusing than the Outlook Classic interface, which has evolved over literally decades.
>  
> I am asking anyone interested in sharing experiences with the New Outlook to contact me directly—either by email at chong.curtis at gmail.com or by phone at 515-306-1654.
>  
> Thank you kindly for your willingness to share.
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Curtis Chong
>  
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NFBCS mailing list
> NFBCS at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org
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From slstanzel at kc.rr.com  Fri Mar 20 01:49:17 2026
From: slstanzel at kc.rr.com (slstanzel at kc.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2026 20:49:17 -0500
Subject: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook
In-Reply-To: <EBBCE267-511B-402C-A638-EE2B8E480CC3@bitsusers.org>
References: 
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Message-ID: <010501dcb80b$c3b7b5a0$4b2720e0$@kc.rr.com>

Curtis has just been telling me that when I go to the computer place to get my computer updated with my old computer that I will need to do something to get the classic outlook. I want everything to look the same as my old computer.

 

sFrom: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ryan Mann via NFBCS
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2026 8:30 PM
To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
Cc: Ryan Mann <ryan.mann at bitsusers.org>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook

 

actually, I would also like to hear about peoples experiences with the new Outlook. Maybe we should talk about it on the list.

Ryan Mann

ryan.mann at bitsusers.org <mailto:ryan.mann at bitsusers.org> 

 





On Mar 19, 2026, at 9:03 PM, Curtis Chong via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

﻿ 

Greetings all:

 

After more than a year of procrastination, I finally decided today to start familiarizing myself with Microsoft's New Outlook program. This New Outlook is planned to supersede what Microsoft now calls Outlook Classic such that support for the Outlook Classic software will be terminated some time in 2029.

 

Vispero, the company which manufactures and sells the JAWS screen reader, has already conducted two webinars on the new Outlook with a third webinar on the New Outlook calendar being presented on Thursday, March 26.

 

I would be happy to hear from anyone on this list who has experience with the New Outlook. I have this distinct perception that the nonvisual interface for screen reader users is far from perfect and even more chaotic and confusing than the Outlook Classic interface, which has evolved over literally decades.

 

I am asking anyone interested in sharing experiences with the New Outlook to contact me directly—either by email at chong.curtis at gmail.com <mailto:chong.curtis at gmail.com>  or by phone at 515-306-1654.

 

Thank you kindly for your willingness to share.

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

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From jsorozco at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 03:57:33 2026
From: jsorozco at gmail.com (Joe Orozco)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2026 23:57:33 -0400
Subject: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
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Message-ID: <01c701dcb81d$af448d20$0dcda760$@gmail.com>

I don't have a world of firsthand experience with it, so I'll keep my not so
helpful response on list so that others can clarify anything wrong I write.

 

When I tried the New Outlook on my older Windows 10 computer, JAWS was not
behaving the way it was supposed to. Commands that should have worked were
not working, and even things like opening an email resulted in my cursor
being thrown to the top of the new window, somewhere above the actual body
of the message. On a newer computer, however, the experience felt more like
what it should have been all along. I have no idea why there's a difference.
I was using the same JAWS version and build at the time. Whether or not this
can be attributed to quirks in JAWS 2025, I couldn't tell you, but in my
personal opinion, even on JAWS 2026, on the newer Windows 11 computer, the
New Outlook just feels ... quirky? That's the best way I can describe it.
For a brief period I actually switched to Thunderbird and liked it much more
than I thought I would. I eventually came back to Outlook Classic, because
although I know its days are numbered, it's still a few years away. Why
upset the cart if its wheels can still roll along more or less okay?

 

Joe

 

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https://joeorozco.com/services/

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong via NFBCS
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2026 9:02 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Curtis Chong <chong.curtis at gmail.com>
Subject: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook

 

Greetings all:

 

After more than a year of procrastination, I finally decided today to start
familiarizing myself with Microsoft's New Outlook program. This New Outlook
is planned to supersede what Microsoft now calls Outlook Classic such that
support for the Outlook Classic software will be terminated some time in
2029.

 

Vispero, the company which manufactures and sells the JAWS screen reader,
has already conducted two webinars on the new Outlook with a third webinar
on the New Outlook calendar being presented on Thursday, March 26.

 

I would be happy to hear from anyone on this list who has experience with
the New Outlook. I have this distinct perception that the nonvisual
interface for screen reader users is far from perfect and even more chaotic
and confusing than the Outlook Classic interface, which has evolved over
literally decades.

 

I am asking anyone interested in sharing experiences with the New Outlook to
contact me directly-either by email at chong.curtis at gmail.com
<mailto:chong.curtis at gmail.com>  or by phone at 515-306-1654.

 

Thank you kindly for your willingness to share.

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

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From nadia.brancati at icar.cnr.it  Fri Mar 20 09:43:28 2026
From: nadia.brancati at icar.cnr.it (Nadia Brancati)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 10:43:28 +0100
Subject: [NFBCS] =?utf-8?q?=5BCFP=5D_Extended_Deadline_=E2=80=93_IEEE_ICTS4?=
	=?utf-8?q?eHealth_2026=2C_Algarve=2C_Portugal_-_June_23-26?=
Message-ID: 
 <CANxf_fVxozWdwTdQU8NpLWaLc-bNMrzXWZEqENmG1gxGA2kPXg@mail.gmail.com>

[Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP]

Dear colleagues,
It is our pleasure to invite you to join the 6th IEEE ICTS4eHealth
Conference, co-located with the 31st IEEE Symposium on Computers and
Communications (ISCC), which will take place from June 23 to 26, 2026
in Algarve, Portugal.


Yours sincerely,
IEEE ICTS4eHealth Organization

=======================================================

6th Edition of IEEE International Conference on ICT Solutions for e-Health

ICTS4eHealth 2026

Algarve, Portugal - June 23-26, 2026
https://icts4ehealth.icar.cnr.it

In conjunction with the 31st IEEE Symposium on Computers and Communications

All paper submissions must be done through EDAS by using the link
https://edas.info/N35010

=======================================================

MISSION:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E-Health is one of the major research topics that have been attracting
cross-disciplinary research groups.
The deployment of new emerging ICT technologies for Health, especially
based on Cloud computing, Internet of Things (IoT), and Artificial
Intelligence (AI), is attracting the interest of many researchers.
Following the success of five workshop editions and two years as an
International IEEE Conference, we are now proud to announce the third
edition of this popular event dedicated to ICT solutions for e-Health.
The conference will bring together researchers from academia,
industry, government, and medical centers in order to present the
state of the art in the emerging area of the use of cloud systems in
connected health infrastructure and applications, and the use of IoT
and AI techniques in the area of e-Health.

TOPICS:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Conference topics include (but are not limited to):

- Artificial Intelligence & Data Analytics for eHealth
Artificial Intelligence for eHealth
Generative AI for Longitudinal Data
AI for Precision Medicine
Knowledge Discovery and Decision Support
Biomedical Data Processing
Data/Visual Mining for Diagnostics
Computer-Aided Diagnostics
Intelligent Bio-signal Interpretation

- Sensing, Wearables & Internet of Medical Things (IoMT)
Internet of Things (IoT) applications for eHealth
Biosensors and Sensor Networks
Wearable Devices and Smart Sensors
Monitoring of Vital Functions
Sensor-based mHealth applications

- Signal, Image & Multimodal Processing
Advanced Bio-signal Processing
Signal Processing for Health
Image Analysis for Health
Medical Imaging Analysis
Generative Models for Medical Imaging
Image-to-Image Translation
Computer Vision and Pattern Recognition
Advanced Medical Visualization
Multimodal Data Fusion

- Digital Health Systems & Architectures
Cloud Computing for eHealth
Distributed and Edge Computing for Healthcare
Telehealth, Telemonitoring and Telediagnostics
e-Healthcare, m-Healthcare, x-Health
Extended and Digital Health Ecosystems
AI-enabled Digital Twins for Healthcare

- Assistive Technologies & Human-Centered Design
Assistive Technology and Assisted Living
Personalized Assistive Technologies
User-Centered Design and Usability
e-Accessibility and Web Accessibility
Assistive Technologies for Urban and Smart Environments

- Security, Privacy & Trustworthy eHealth
Security and Privacy in eHealth
Ethical, Legal and Social Implications (ELSI)
Trustworthy AI for Healthcare
Explainable/Interpretable AI for Health
Federated/Privacy-Preserving Learning

- Modeling, Simulation & Clinical Applications
Healthcare Modeling and Simulation
Computational Biology and Bioinformatics
Modeling and Simulation in BM
Improved Therapeutic and Rehabilitation Methods


IMPORTANT DATES:
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- Submission deadline: MARCH 31, 2026 (EXTENDED AND FIRM)
- Notification of paper acceptance: APRIL 20, 2026
- Conference Dates: June 23-26, 2026

PAPER SUBMISSION:
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Manuscripts should describe original work and should be no more than 7
pages in the IEEE double-column proceedings format, including tables,
figures and references. Download manuscript templates for IEEE
conference proceedings from:
https://www.ieee.org/conferences/publishing/templates.html
Note that accepted papers up to 6 pages will be published with no
additional charge. Exceeding pages will be charged an additional fee.
Papers exceeding 7 pages will not be accepted.
At least one author of each accepted paper is required to register to
the conference and present the paper. Only registered and presented
papers will be published in the conference proceedings.
In IEEE ICTS4eHealth 2026, as well as in IEEE ISCC 2026, all
submissions must be done through EDAS.
Accepted papers will be included in the proceedings of ISCC 2026, of
which ICTS4eHealth conference is a co-located event, and will be
submitted for inclusion to IEEE Xplore. The ICTSeHealth and ISCC
proceedings have been indexed in the past by ISI, DBLP and Scopus.
This makes the ISCC conference one of the publication venues with very
high visibility and impact in both Computer and Communications areas.


BEST PAPER AWARD:
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A "Best Paper Award" Certificate will be conferred on the author(s) of
a paper presented at the conference, selected by the Chairs based on
scientific significance, originality and outstanding technical quality
of the paper, as assessed also by the evaluations of the members of
the Program Committee.


SPECIAL ISSUES:
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Authors of selected papers may be invited to submit extended versions
of their papers for publication as full journal papers in special
issues organized in prestigious indexed journals.


STEERING COMMITTEE:
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- Antonio Celesti, University of Messina, Italy;
- Ivanoe De Falco, ICAR-CNR, Italy;
- Giovanna Sannino, ICAR-CNR, Italy;
- Massimo Villari, University of Messina, Italy.


ORGANIZATION:
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General chair:
- Daniele Raví, University of Messina, Italy

Technical Program Co-Chairs:
- Brancati Nadia, ICAR-CNR, Italy
- Francesco La Rosa, University of Messina, Italy
- Laura Verde, University of Campania "L. Vanvitelli”, Italy
- Saber Sami, University of East Anglia, UK
- Hugo Plácido da Silva, Instituto de Telecomunicações, Portugal

Publicity Co-Chairs:
- Salvatore Giugliano, ICAR-CNR, Italy
- Gabriele Morabito, University of Messina, Italy


Please visit https://icts4ehealth.icar.cnr.it for more information,
and, if you have any questions, kindly get back to us by sending an
email to ICTS4eHealth at icar.cnr.it

Kind regards,
IEEE ICTS4eHealth Organization

########################################################################



-- 
Nadia Brancati
Senior Researcher @ AI-ISA Lab
<https://www.icar.cnr.it/en/gruppi-di-ricerca/artificial-intelligence-in-image-and-signal-analysis/>
Institute for High Performance Computing and Networking - National Research
Council of Italy (CNR - ICAR)
Via P. Castellino, 111 - 80131 Napoli
Tel. 081.6139228
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From chong.curtis at gmail.com  Fri Mar 20 17:04:09 2026
From: chong.curtis at gmail.com (Curtis Chong)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2026 11:04:09 -0600
Subject: [NFBCS] Outlook Classic End of Life Date, Impact, and What's Next
Message-ID: <000a01dcb88b$91fd6520$b5f82f60$@gmail.com>

Greetings:

 

Here is an article which was published in October, 2025, which discusses in
great detail the currently-published plans by Microsoft to move from the
Classic Outlook to the New Outlook. Those of us who have already found
significant deficiencies in the New Outlook for nonvisual users should pay
heed to this schedule and think about how we might apply pressure to
Microsoft either to improve the New Outlook or to delay the ultimate demise
of the Classic Outlook.

 

Here is the link to the original source:

https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/outlook-classic-end-of-life/

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 


	
		
 

 



Microsoft Outlook Classic End of Life Date, Meaning, and Full Guide


  

 <https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/author/admin/> Mark Regan
Published: October 16th, 2025 . 6 Min Read

If you are reading this blog post, then you might need to know about the
Outlook Classic end of life date, meaning, impact, and many more. If yes,
then this digital column will guide you through the complete information
about the end date, till when the support is available for Outlook Classic,
and when Outlook Classic is removed from the Microsoft 365 apps for
enterprise subscription. Let us start by having a quick overview.

Table of Content
<https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/outlook-classic-end-of-life/> Hide

1.	 <https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/outlook-classic-end-of-life/#When>
When is Outlook Classic Going Away? Quick Explanation
2.
<https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/outlook-classic-end-of-life/#Timeline> What
is the Outlook Classic Retirement Timeline?
3.	 <https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/outlook-classic-end-of-life/#Mean>
What does Outlook Classic End of Life Mean?
4.	 <https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/outlook-classic-end-of-life/#Who>
Who is Affected by Outlook Classic End of Life?
5.	 <https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/outlook-classic-end-of-life/#What>
What Should You Do Next When Outlook Classic is Going Away?
6.	 <https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/outlook-classic-end-of-life/#Will>
Will Outlook Classic Still Be Available Separately?
7.
<https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/outlook-classic-end-of-life/#Final> Final
Thoughts
8.	 <https://www.bitrecover.com/blog/outlook-classic-end-of-life/#FAQs>
Frequently Asked Questions


When is Outlook Classic Going Away? Quick Explanation


Microsoft has outlined a timeline for the phased for Outlook Classic (EOL).
Here is the key milestone included in the timeline.

*   Q1 2025: Release of 15-month opt-out notice to inform the Outlook
Classic user of the upcoming transition to the New Outlook.

*   Q2 2026: Commencement of opt-out, IT admins and other users can now
start migration to New Outlook.

*   Q4 2026: Release of 15-month cut-out notice redirecting users to transit
from Outlook Classic

*   Q1-Q2 2028: Official retirement of Outlook Classic with its removal from
Microsoft 365 subscriptions and individual downloads.

*   Q2 2029: End of Life date for Outlook Classic marking the stoppage of
all support including security, bugs, and patches updates.




What is the Outlook Classic Retirement Timeline?


Microsoft has announced a phase-wise Outlook Classic discontinuation. Here
is a detailed tabular representation for everything you need to know
regarding the end-of-life date.


Milestone

Timeline

What it Means


Microsoft released the 15-month opt-out notice for Outlook Classic

Quarter 1 of 2025

Microsoft releases a 15-month cut-off notice for users who are using Outlook
Classic.


Opt-out transition begins

Quarter 2 of 2026

By this timeline, the admins and users can start transmitting to New
Outlook.


Outlook Classic Cutover 15 months' Notice release

Quarter 4 2026

At this timeline, Microsoft will release a notice to users about the
mandatory cut away from Outlook Classic to New Outlook.


Outlook Classic Retirement

Quarter 1 or 2 of 2028

Classic Outlook will be removed from the Microsoft 365 apps packages and
from individual purchases. January to June 2028 can be the official
retirement date of Outlook Classic.


Outlook Classic End of Life

Quarter 2 of 2029

Microsoft ends all support for security and patch updates for Outlook
Classic by April 2029. Hence, the start of Q2 2029 will be the official date
for Outlook Classic end of life.


What does Outlook Classic End of Life Mean?


Outlook Classic End of Life refers to the context that by a particular
timeline the Microsoft will stop support, security, patches, and bug
updates. Additionally, from that timeline the Outlook Classic will no longer
be available to download and purchase from the official Microsoft Website.
However, as per Microsoft roadmaps, the Outlook Classic end-of-life date is
Q2 2029, possibly by April 2029.


Who is Affected by Outlook Classic End of Life?


*   Enterprise and Business Users: The enterprise and business users will be
highly affected because of Outlook Classic retirement. IT departments
managing Outlook Classic deployments and updates need to be updated about
any news related to Outlook Classic. Moreover, the Organizations that rely
completely on Outlook Classic need to look for an alternative.

*   Small Business & Individual Users: Small businesses using Outlook
calendars and events for management will suffer. Additionally, the
individuals who rely on Classic Outlook for their daily communication and
productivity will also be affected.

*   Third-Party Integrations and Add-ins: Software vendors who are providing
plugins and third-party add-ins for Outlook Classic need to update them.
Otherwise, these add-ins or integrations will no longer be supported in New
Outlook after the retirement of Outlook Classic.


What Should You Do Next When Outlook Classic is Going Away?


*   Early Transition Planning: If you are someone whose workflow is highly
dependent on Classic Outlook. These users need to plan for an early
transition to maintain their workflow and integrations.

*   Backup Important Data Regularly: Another important thing that users can
do is backup their Classic Outlook data using some
<https://www.bitrecover.com/pst-converter/> PST File Converter in accessible
format. It will help them to access and transit their data to new Outlook
after the Outlook Classic end of support.

*   Inform and Train Users: One another that an organization can do is to
keep updated and create training sessions to train the users about the New
Outlook functionalities and workings. Secondly, keep updated about every new
related to Outlook Classic end of life.


Will Outlook Classic Still Be Available Separately?


By April 2026, Microsoft is planning to cut off Outlook Classic and add New
Outlook as the default in Microsoft 365 subscription for enterprise
packages. However, users can separately download the Outlook Classic from
the official Microsoft site. Moreover, in the new packed Windows devices,
Outlook Classic is already replaced by the New Outlook.


Final Thoughts


The Outlook Classic End of Life is a significant change for individuals and
organizations alike, with Quarter 2 of 2029. Early planning of the Outlook
Classic to New Outlook transition can be a proactive measure. Additionally,
ensure to regularly back up your Classic Outlook data to avoid any
last-minute disaster with your crucial data.


Frequently Asked User Queries


Q1. Is Microsoft Classic Outlook going to be discontinued by April 2026?

Ans: No, Microsoft Outlook Classic is not going to be discontinued by April
2026. Although by this timeline, organizations or individuals can start the
transmission to the New Outlook.

Q2. How long can I keep using old Outlook?

Ans: You can use old Outlook till you feel good as per your choice. However,
after April 2029 the Microsoft will quit providing any security, patches
updates. Secondly, the support for Outlook Classic will also gets to end by
the above-mentioned timeline.

Q3: How long will Classic Outlook be supported?

Ans: According to Microsoft's official announcement, the Classic Outlook
will be supported until April 2029.

Q4: What is the Outlook Classic Death Date?

Ans: Microsoft says Outlook Classic will no longer as default after April
2026, but support like Updates and security patches will be available until
at least 2029.

Q5: What happens if I don't switch to the new Outlook?

Ans: If you are a Microsoft 365 subscriber, you will be forced to switch to
the new Outlook. However, for individual users, there is not any information
released by Microsoft.

Q6: Are third-party add-ins for Classic Outlook still supported?

Ans: No, most of the third-party add-ons used in Classic Outlook will not be
supported in the new Outlook. Developers need to redevelop these add-ons to
keep supporting in new Outlook.

Q7: What is the difference b/w Outlook Classic Retirement Vs Outlook Classic
End of Life?

Ans: Outlook Classic Retirement means that by that timeline the Microsoft
will stop distributing and promoting Classic Outlook for download and
purchase from the official website. However, temporarily updates may still
be available.  On the other hand Classic Outlook EOL means there will be no
official update or support from Microsoft.

 

 

 

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From dandrews920 at comcast.net  Sat Mar 21 09:04:44 2026
From: dandrews920 at comcast.net (dandrews920 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2026 04:04:44 -0500
Subject: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook
In-Reply-To: <EBBCE267-511B-402C-A638-EE2B8E480CC3@bitsusers.org>
References: 
 <PH7PR15MB608371A6C1502715D4F2BFEAF54FA@PH7PR15MB6083.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
 <EBBCE267-511B-402C-A638-EE2B8E480CC3@bitsusers.org>
Message-ID: <4fdd01dcb911$c4408ea0$4cc1abe0$@comcast.net>

People may know that Freedom Scientific has a webinar next Thursday, the 26th, on using JAWS with the new Outlook. I believe it is at noon, Eastern time.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Ryan Mann via NFBCS
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2026 8:30 PM
To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
Cc: Ryan Mann <ryan.mann at bitsusers.org>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook

 

actually, I would also like to hear about peoples experiences with the new Outlook. Maybe we should talk about it on the list.

Ryan Mann

ryan.mann at bitsusers.org <mailto:ryan.mann at bitsusers.org> 

 





On Mar 19, 2026, at 9:03 PM, Curtis Chong via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

﻿ 

Greetings all:

 

After more than a year of procrastination, I finally decided today to start familiarizing myself with Microsoft's New Outlook program. This New Outlook is planned to supersede what Microsoft now calls Outlook Classic such that support for the Outlook Classic software will be terminated some time in 2029.

 

Vispero, the company which manufactures and sells the JAWS screen reader, has already conducted two webinars on the new Outlook with a third webinar on the New Outlook calendar being presented on Thursday, March 26.

 

I would be happy to hear from anyone on this list who has experience with the New Outlook. I have this distinct perception that the nonvisual interface for screen reader users is far from perfect and even more chaotic and confusing than the Outlook Classic interface, which has evolved over literally decades.

 

I am asking anyone interested in sharing experiences with the New Outlook to contact me directly—either by email at chong.curtis at gmail.com <mailto:chong.curtis at gmail.com>  or by phone at 515-306-1654.

 

Thank you kindly for your willingness to share.

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

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From chong.curtis at gmail.com  Sat Mar 21 15:54:42 2026
From: chong.curtis at gmail.com (Curtis Chong)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2026 09:54:42 -0600
Subject: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook
In-Reply-To: <4fdd01dcb911$c4408ea0$4cc1abe0$@comcast.net>
References: 
 <PH7PR15MB608371A6C1502715D4F2BFEAF54FA@PH7PR15MB6083.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
 <EBBCE267-511B-402C-A638-EE2B8E480CC3@bitsusers.org>
 <4fdd01dcb911$c4408ea0$4cc1abe0$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <005c01dcb94b$09163b90$1b42b2b0$@gmail.com>

Here is the link to the page where you can read about and register for this webinar.

 

https://www.freedomscientific.com/training/freewebinars/

 

All the best,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of dandrews920--- via NFBCS
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2026 3:05 AM
To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: dandrews920 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook

 

People may know that Freedom Scientific has a webinar next Thursday, the 26th, on using JAWS with the new Outlook. I believe it is at noon, Eastern time.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> > On Behalf Of Ryan Mann via NFBCS
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2026 8:30 PM
To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org> 
Cc: Ryan Mann <ryan.mann at bitsusers.org <mailto:ryan.mann at bitsusers.org> >
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook

 

actually, I would also like to hear about peoples experiences with the new Outlook. Maybe we should talk about it on the list.

Ryan Mann

ryan.mann at bitsusers.org <mailto:ryan.mann at bitsusers.org> 

 

 

On Mar 19, 2026, at 9:03 PM, Curtis Chong via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

﻿ 

Greetings all:

 

After more than a year of procrastination, I finally decided today to start familiarizing myself with Microsoft's New Outlook program. This New Outlook is planned to supersede what Microsoft now calls Outlook Classic such that support for the Outlook Classic software will be terminated some time in 2029.

 

Vispero, the company which manufactures and sells the JAWS screen reader, has already conducted two webinars on the new Outlook with a third webinar on the New Outlook calendar being presented on Thursday, March 26.

 

I would be happy to hear from anyone on this list who has experience with the New Outlook. I have this distinct perception that the nonvisual interface for screen reader users is far from perfect and even more chaotic and confusing than the Outlook Classic interface, which has evolved over literally decades.

 

I am asking anyone interested in sharing experiences with the New Outlook to contact me directly—either by email at chong.curtis at gmail.com <mailto:chong.curtis at gmail.com>  or by phone at 515-306-1654.

 

Thank you kindly for your willingness to share.

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

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From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com  Sat Mar 21 16:14:16 2026
From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2026 11:14:16 -0500
Subject: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook
In-Reply-To: <005c01dcb94b$09163b90$1b42b2b0$@gmail.com>
References: 
 <PH7PR15MB608371A6C1502715D4F2BFEAF54FA@PH7PR15MB6083.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
 <EBBCE267-511B-402C-A638-EE2B8E480CC3@bitsusers.org>
 <4fdd01dcb911$c4408ea0$4cc1abe0$@comcast.net>
 <005c01dcb94b$09163b90$1b42b2b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010901dcb94d$c44be200$4ce3a600$@satx.rr.com>

Good morning everyone,

 

BITS held several webinars dealing with the New Outlook on several occasions.  Given the importance of e-mail what plans does NFBCS have to offer similar New Outlook Training sessions?

 

Peter Donahue

 

 

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong via NFBCS
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2026 10:55 AM
To: 'NFB in Computer sScience Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Curtis Chong <chong.curtis at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook

 

Here is the link to the page where you can read about and register for this webinar.

 

https://www.freedomscientific.com/training/freewebinars/

 

All the best,

 

Curtis Chong

 

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> > On Behalf Of dandrews920--- via NFBCS
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2026 3:05 AM
To: 'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List' <nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org> >
Cc: dandrews920 at comcast.net <mailto:dandrews920 at comcast.net> 
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook

 

People may know that Freedom Scientific has a webinar next Thursday, the 26th, on using JAWS with the new Outlook. I believe it is at noon, Eastern time.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> > On Behalf Of Ryan Mann via NFBCS
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2026 8:30 PM
To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org> 
Cc: Ryan Mann <ryan.mann at bitsusers.org <mailto:ryan.mann at bitsusers.org> >
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Microsoft's New Outlook

 

actually, I would also like to hear about peoples experiences with the new Outlook. Maybe we should talk about it on the list.

Ryan Mann

ryan.mann at bitsusers.org <mailto:ryan.mann at bitsusers.org> 

 

 

On Mar 19, 2026, at 9:03 PM, Curtis Chong via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

﻿ 

Greetings all:

 

After more than a year of procrastination, I finally decided today to start familiarizing myself with Microsoft's New Outlook program. This New Outlook is planned to supersede what Microsoft now calls Outlook Classic such that support for the Outlook Classic software will be terminated some time in 2029.

 

Vispero, the company which manufactures and sells the JAWS screen reader, has already conducted two webinars on the new Outlook with a third webinar on the New Outlook calendar being presented on Thursday, March 26.

 

I would be happy to hear from anyone on this list who has experience with the New Outlook. I have this distinct perception that the nonvisual interface for screen reader users is far from perfect and even more chaotic and confusing than the Outlook Classic interface, which has evolved over literally decades.

 

I am asking anyone interested in sharing experiences with the New Outlook to contact me directly—either by email at chong.curtis at gmail.com <mailto:chong.curtis at gmail.com>  or by phone at 515-306-1654.

 

Thank you kindly for your willingness to share.

 

Kind regards,

 

Curtis Chong

 

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From deheltzer at msn.com  Sat Mar 21 20:17:21 2026
From: deheltzer at msn.com (Dale HELTZER)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2026 20:17:21 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] CCleaner and JAWS
Message-ID: 
 <SCYPR80MB8085C2B097791A29A2B35B2ABC4DA@SCYPR80MB8085.lamprd80.prod.outlook.com>

Are there any scripts or settings that will allow JAWS to work well with CCleaner 7.5?
Thanks
Be well

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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Sat Mar 21 23:32:23 2026
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Ty Littlefield)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2026 17:32:23 -0600
Subject: [NFBCS] CCleaner and JAWS
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
 <SCYPR80MB8085C2B097791A29A2B35B2ABC4DA@SCYPR80MB8085.lamprd80.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <3ab63df8-a1e7-4410-9d7e-f1654b56c450@tysdomain.com>

I highly recommend using anything but CCleaner these days. It used to be 
an amazing tool, now it's just garbage that they want to make money on 
that will endlessly harass you until you pay. Disk cleanup has gotten 
much better over the years, just go to system files and it will cover a lot.


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On 3/21/2026 2:17 PM, Dale HELTZER via NFBCS wrote:
>
> Are there any scripts or settings that will allow JAWS to work well 
> with CCleaner 7.5?
>
> Thanks
>
> Be well
>
>
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From chaltain at outlook.com  Sun Mar 22 00:43:40 2026
From: chaltain at outlook.com (Christopher Chaltain)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2026 00:43:40 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] CCleaner and JAWS
In-Reply-To: <3ab63df8-a1e7-4410-9d7e-f1654b56c450@tysdomain.com>
References: 
 <SCYPR80MB8085C2B097791A29A2B35B2ABC4DA@SCYPR80MB8085.lamprd80.prod.outlook.com>
 <3ab63df8-a1e7-4410-9d7e-f1654b56c450@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: 
 <DM6PR02MB399323EB45C4D61724448E34C84AA@DM6PR02MB3993.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

There's also Microsoft PC Manager.


--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA



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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2026 6:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [NFBCS] CCleaner and JAWS


I highly recommend using anything but CCleaner these days. It used to be an amazing tool, now it's just garbage that they want to make money on that will endlessly harass you until you pay. Disk cleanup has gotten much better over the years, just go to system files and it will cover a lot.


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On 3/21/2026 2:17 PM, Dale HELTZER via NFBCS wrote:

Are there any scripts or settings that will allow JAWS to work well with CCleaner 7.5?

Thanks

Be well





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From humberto_avila.it104 at outlook.com  Sun Mar 22 05:51:38 2026
From: humberto_avila.it104 at outlook.com (Humberto)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2026 22:51:38 -0700
Subject: [NFBCS] CCleaner and JAWS
In-Reply-To: 
 <SCYPR80MB8085C2B097791A29A2B35B2ABC4DA@SCYPR80MB8085.lamprd80.prod.outlook.com>
References: 
 <SCYPR80MB8085C2B097791A29A2B35B2ABC4DA@SCYPR80MB8085.lamprd80.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: 
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hi,


Latest versions of C Cleaner for Windows (V7 and above) are just web 
page based in that you can use the Virtual PC cursor. I have used the 
NVDA equivalent for months now and it works very well. I haven't used it 
with JAWS, however I do know that C Cleaner now exposes the UI as a 
document model so I would assume now you can use the Virtual PC Cursor.


On 3/21/26 13:17, Dale HELTZER via NFBCS wrote:
>
> Are there any scripts or settings that will allow JAWS to work well 
> with CCleaner 7.5?
>
> Thanks
>
> Be well
>
>
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From mohammad-sule.maidawa at imt-atlantique.fr  Tue Mar 24 07:01:20 2026
From: mohammad-sule.maidawa at imt-atlantique.fr (Mohammad Sule MAIDAWA)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2026 08:01:20 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [NFBCS] CFP: 12th European Conference on Service-Oriented and
 Cloud-Edge
 Continuum (ESOCC 2026)
Message-ID: 
 <1015964061.8884028.1774335680736.JavaMail.zimbra@imt-atlantique.fr>

====================================================================
                          CALL FOR PAPERS
====================================================================

ESOCC 2026
12th European Conference on Service-Oriented and Cloud Computing
7–8 September 2026 | Free University of Bozen–Bolzano, Italy

Conference website:
https://conf.researchr.org/home/esocc-2026

Submission deadline:
3rd April 2026
====================================================================

ABOUT THE CONFERENCE
--------------------
ESOCC is the premier European forum for advances in Service-Oriented
Computing, Cloud and Edge Computing, and AI-driven systems. It brings
together researchers and practitioners from academia and industry to
discuss foundations, systems, and applications.

ESOCC 2026 invites original submissions on Service-Oriented Computing,
Cloud and Edge Computing, and AI-driven systems, including (but not
limited to):

TOPICS OF INTEREST
------------------
- Applications for Service-Oriented and Edge–Cloud Continuum
  (e.g., smart cities, health, energy, finance, scientific computing)
- Generative AI and Machine Learning for service-oriented and
  cloud-native systems
- AI/ML services and LLM-based cloud platforms
- Distributed intelligence at the Edge, including Federated Learning
- Blockchain technologies for service-oriented and cloud–edge systems
- Business models, processes, brokerage, and cloud marketplaces
- Governance, privacy, security, trust, and quality in the
  Edge–Cloud Continuum

SUBMISSION TRACKS
-----------------
- Regular Research Papers (up to 15 pages, LNCS format)
- PhD Symposium Papers (up to 12 pages)
- Projects & Industry Reports (1–2 pages)

PUBLICATION
-----------
All accepted papers will appear in the Springer LNCS proceedings.
Selected papers will be invited to submit extended versions to a
special issue of the Springer Journal of Cluster Computing.

Authors should follow Springer’s Instructions for Authors and use the
official LaTeX or Word templates available on the conference website.

SUBMISSION SYSTEM
-----------------
EasyChair:
https://easychair.org/my/conference?conf=ecsa2026

IMPORTANT DATES
---------------
- Paper submission deadline: 3 April 2026
- Notification of acceptance: 20 May 2026
- Camera-ready papers due: 20 June 2026
- Conference dates: 7–8 September 2026

JOURNAL SPECIAL ISSUE
---------------------
A journal special issue is planned at the Springer Journal on Cluster
Computing (Impact Factor 4.4, 2022). Authors of selected accepted papers
will be invited to submit extended versions.

CONTACT
-------
For further details, please visit:
https://conf.researchr.org/home/esocc-2026

For questions, please contact the conference chairs.
====================================================================

From mohammad-sule.maidawa at imt-atlantique.fr  Tue Mar 24 13:38:35 2026
From: mohammad-sule.maidawa at imt-atlantique.fr (Mohammad Sule MAIDAWA)
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2026 14:38:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [NFBCS] Call for Projects alongside ESOCC 2026
Message-ID: 
 <205557418.9343069.1774359515901.JavaMail.zimbra@imt-atlantique.fr>

============================================================================
 CALL FOR PROJECTS
ESOCC 2026 12th European Conference on Service-Oriented and Cloud-Edge Continuum 7–8 September 2026 | Free University of Bozen–Bolzano, Italy

Conference website:
https://conf.researchr.org/home/esocc-2026

Submission deadline (for proceedings): 3rd April 2026
ABOUT THE PROJECTS TRACK
ESOCC is the premier European forum for advances in Service-Oriented Computing, Cloud and Edge Computing, and AI-driven systems.

ESOCC 2026 invites submissions from European and International projects on Service-Oriented Computing, Cloud and Edge Computing, and AI-driven systems. This track solicits project and industry reports of up to 2 pages to support collaboration and networking across international research initiatives.

TOPICS OF INTEREST
Applications for Service-Oriented and Edge–Cloud Continuum (eg, smart cities, health, energy, finance, scientific computing)

Generative AI and Machine Learning for service-oriented and cloud-native systems

 - AI/ML services and LLM-based cloud platforms

 - Distributed intelligence at the Edge, including Federated Learning

 - Blockchain technologies for service-oriented and cloud–edge systems

 - Business models, processes, brokerage, and cloud marketplaces

 - Governance, privacy, security, trust, and quality in the Edge–Cloud Continuum

TYPES OF SUBMISSION
Project & Industry Reports (up to 2 pages)

PUBLICATION
All accepted papers in the proceedings track will appear in the Springer LNCS proceedings. Selected papers will be invited to submit extended versions to a special issue of the Springer Journal of Cluster Computing.

Authors should follow Springer's Instructions for Authors and use the official LaTeX or Word templates available on the authors' page.

SUBMISSION SYSTEM
EasyChair:
https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=ecsa2026

IMPORTANT DATES
Track A: For projects included in the proceedings

Submission deadline: April 3, 2026

Notification of acceptance: April 27, 2026

Camera-ready papers due: 20 May 2026

Track B: For web-showcase only (not in proceedings)

Abstract submission: 15 July 2026

Notification of acceptance: 31 July 2026

SPECIAL ISSUE JOURNAL
A special journal issue is planned at the Springer Journal on Cluster Computing. Authors of selected accepted reports will be invited to submit extended versions.

CONTACT
For further details and registration information, please visit:
https://conf.researchr.org/home/esocc-2026

For questions, please contact the conference chairs.
Would you like me to help you create a plain-text email subject line or a LinkedIn summary to go along with this?

From steve.jacobson at outlook.com  Thu Mar 26 02:29:12 2026
From: steve.jacobson at outlook.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 02:29:12 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] Strangeness in Zoom
Message-ID: 
 <SN7P223MB05777A056D96A7B1B6899B3B9456A@SN7P223MB0577.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Recently on two computers, I am noticing that Zoom is speaking CONTROL_ID information, and when looking at settings, some settings seem not to be spoken.  The pattern seems to be that if I TAB to a setting that tells one to press F6 to go to Pop-up that controls are no longer spoken.  I have tried pressing F6 in case a pop-up can be closed but nothing speaks.  For a specific example, going to the Audio tab and tabbing through the speaker settings one will encounter a control that says "For gallery or immersive view only. Not supported with wireless headphones. Press F6 to reach the popup".  At that point, pressing TAB speaks nothing.  On occasion, speech has returns, but stops when I hit the next control with a pop-up.  The behavior seems to be the same with JAWS, NVDA, and Narrator.  I am using Windows 11 on both machines.  Everything seems to work if I navigate with the JAWS Touch controls.  Is this something that is happening to others?

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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From portillo.jim at gmail.com  Thu Mar 26 02:39:36 2026
From: portillo.jim at gmail.com (portillo.jim at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 19:39:36 -0700
Subject: [NFBCS] Strangeness in Zoom
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
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Message-ID: <039201dcbcc9$c9a4c760$5cee5620$@gmail.com>

Steve, I've notice that same thing. I thought I had done something strange
to my Zoom settings.

Jim

 

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via NFBCS
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2026 7:29 PM
To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at outlook.com>
Subject: [NFBCS] Strangeness in Zoom

 

Recently on two computers, I am noticing that Zoom is speaking CONTROL_ID
information, and when looking at settings, some settings seem not to be
spoken.  The pattern seems to be that if I TAB to a setting that tells one
to press F6 to go to Pop-up that controls are no longer spoken.  I have
tried pressing F6 in case a pop-up can be closed but nothing speaks.  For a
specific example, going to the Audio tab and tabbing through the speaker
settings one will encounter a control that says "For gallery or immersive
view only. Not supported with wireless headphones. Press F6 to reach the
popup".  At that point, pressing TAB speaks nothing.  On occasion, speech
has returns, but stops when I hit the next control with a pop-up.  The
behavior seems to be the same with JAWS, NVDA, and Narrator.  I am using
Windows 11 on both machines.  Everything seems to work if I navigate with
the JAWS Touch controls.  Is this something that is happening to others?

 

Best regards,

 

Steve Jacobson

 

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From aruell at comcast.net  Thu Mar 26 02:54:13 2026
From: aruell at comcast.net (Amy Ruell)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 22:54:13 -0400
Subject: [NFBCS] Strangeness in Zoom
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
 <SN7P223MB05777A056D96A7B1B6899B3B9456A@SN7P223MB0577.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <BEEC2542-BAF0-4BDB-9C26-5A90DB3A5CEF@comcast.net>

Hello Steve and all,
I’m afraid I’ve had the exact same experience. Zoom is becoming less and less user-friendly.
Amy.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 25, 2026, at 10:30 PM, Steve Jacobson via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ﻿
> Recently on two computers, I am noticing that Zoom is speaking CONTROL_ID information, and when looking at settings, some settings seem not to be spoken.  The pattern seems to be that if I TAB to a setting that tells one to press F6 to go to Pop-up that controls are no longer spoken.  I have tried pressing F6 in case a pop-up can be closed but nothing speaks.  For a specific example, going to the Audio tab and tabbing through the speaker settings one will encounter a control that says “For gallery or immersive view only. Not supported with wireless headphones. Press F6 to reach the popup”.  At that point, pressing TAB speaks nothing.  On occasion, speech has returns, but stops when I hit the next control with a pop-up.  The behavior seems to be the same with JAWS, NVDA, and Narrator.  I am using Windows 11 on both machines.  Everything seems to work if I navigate with the JAWS Touch controls.  Is this something that is happening to others?
>  
> Best regards,
>  
> Steve Jacobson
>  
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Thu Mar 26 02:59:07 2026
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Ty Littlefield)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 20:59:07 -0600
Subject: [NFBCS] Strangeness in Zoom
In-Reply-To: <BEEC2542-BAF0-4BDB-9C26-5A90DB3A5CEF@comcast.net>
References: 
 <SN7P223MB05777A056D96A7B1B6899B3B9456A@SN7P223MB0577.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <BEEC2542-BAF0-4BDB-9C26-5A90DB3A5CEF@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <6d1a77c7-ff5c-44df-b0bf-fd2aad9ee021@tysdomain.com>

I don't remember if this came up here or somewhere else, but apparently 
they plan to fix it in the next release. This looks and feels like 
debugging information though.

Either way, I'm just putting this degredation down to the 
inshitification of yet another product where they're trying to force AI 
on you. It's much more usable on the phone which is where I use it for 
all my millions of work meetings unless I need to screenshare or do 
virtual pair-programming with someone. this might be a better option; I 
just have a cheap 3 port active mixer I stuck to the bottom of my desk 
with dual-lock, so my phone and JAWS from my desktop come through the 
same headphones.


HTH,


On 3/25/2026 8:54 PM, Amy Ruell via NFBCS wrote:
> Hello Steve and all,
> I’m afraid I’ve had the exact same experience. Zoom is becoming less 
> and less user-friendly.
> Amy.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 25, 2026, at 10:30 PM, Steve Jacobson via NFBCS 
>> <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ﻿
>>
>> Recently on two computers, I am noticing that Zoom is speaking 
>> CONTROL_ID information, and when looking at settings, some settings 
>> seem not to be spoken.The pattern seems to be that if I TAB to a 
>> setting that tells one to press F6 to go to Pop-up that controls are 
>> no longer spoken.I have tried pressing F6 in case a pop-up can be 
>> closed but nothing speaks.For a specific example, going to the Audio 
>> tab and tabbing through the speaker settings one will encounter a 
>> control that says “For gallery or immersive view only. Not supported 
>> with wireless headphones. Press F6 to reach the popup”.At that point, 
>> pressing TAB speaks nothing.On occasion, speech has returns, but 
>> stops when I hit the next control with a pop-up. The behavior seems 
>> to be the same with JAWS, NVDA, and Narrator.I am using Windows 11 on 
>> both machines.Everything seems to work if I navigate with the JAWS 
>> Touch controls.Is this something that is happening to others?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NFBCS mailing list
>> NFBCS at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbcs_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> NFBCS:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfbcs_nfbnet.org/aruell%40comcast.net
>
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From chong.curtis at gmail.com  Thu Mar 26 04:38:31 2026
From: chong.curtis at gmail.com (Curtis Chong)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 22:38:31 -0600
Subject: [NFBCS] Strangeness in Zoom
In-Reply-To: 
 <SN7P223MB05777A056D96A7B1B6899B3B9456A@SN7P223MB0577.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: 
 <SN7P223MB05777A056D96A7B1B6899B3B9456A@SN7P223MB0577.NAMP223.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <006c01dcbcda$676caca0$364605e0$@gmail.com>

Hello Steve:

 

This happened with an update to Zoom which I wrote about in a previous post.
The latest update to JAWS, just released today, is supposed to fix this
problem even if the Help Bubble is not turned off in Verbosity settings.
Interestingly, Zoom was also updated today, and so far, on my system, with
the latest JAWS and Zoom, I do not receive excessive chatter.

 

In terms of tabbing to controls that stop speaking, these are also speech
bubbles which you exit by pressing Escape and then continue tabbing.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via NFBCS
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2026 8:29 PM
To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at outlook.com>
Subject: [NFBCS] Strangeness in Zoom

 

Recently on two computers, I am noticing that Zoom is speaking CONTROL_ID
information, and when looking at settings, some settings seem not to be
spoken.  The pattern seems to be that if I TAB to a setting that tells one
to press F6 to go to Pop-up that controls are no longer spoken.  I have
tried pressing F6 in case a pop-up can be closed but nothing speaks.  For a
specific example, going to the Audio tab and tabbing through the speaker
settings one will encounter a control that says "For gallery or immersive
view only. Not supported with wireless headphones. Press F6 to reach the
popup".  At that point, pressing TAB speaks nothing.  On occasion, speech
has returns, but stops when I hit the next control with a pop-up.  The
behavior seems to be the same with JAWS, NVDA, and Narrator.  I am using
Windows 11 on both machines.  Everything seems to work if I navigate with
the JAWS Touch controls.  Is this something that is happening to others?

 

Best regards,

 

Steve Jacobson

 

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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Fri Mar 27 20:47:45 2026
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 20:47:45 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] Seeking Expertise for Feasibility of EarPilot
 Collaboration
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
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Message-ID: 
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From: Hiser, Charles
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2026 12:08 PM
To: 'johnmillerphd at hotmail.com' <johnmillerphd at hotmail.com<mailto:johnmillerphd at hotmail.com>>
Subject: Seeking Expertise for Feasibility of EarPilot Collaboration

Dear John,

My name is Charles Hiser, one of the new Accessibility Excellence Advocates on staff at the NFB Jernigan Institute. I was recently asked to collaborate with a small team of pilots in Minnesota who are designing an app that translates data from iPhone sensors into audio cues to enable a blind person to fly a plane. They are seeking technical expertise with the hopes of creating an interface that would reduce latency in the delivery of information and improve the accuracy, as well as be intuitive for blind people in a cockpit setting. They are aiming to test the idea on simulators but also want to explore how this could be brought to an aircraft. The ultimate goal is a kind of "Blind Flyer Challenge" modeled on the philosophies of the Blind Driver Challenge that the NFB most recently demonstrated with Dan Parker in 2022. I am reaching out to you to tap the members of the Science and Engineering Division to put together a small team of people who could speak to the theoretical feasibility of these goals.

While EarPilot has been proven to convey the information necessary to successfully and safely complete limited bank, pitch and turn maneuvers, it is still in the early testing phase of its lifecycle. There is no mechanism to pass information to a blind pilot to complete more drastic maneuvers, taxiing, landing or take-off. A sighted pilot must establish the aircraft in clear practice airspace before passing control to the blind pilot. Because of this, I would like to be clear in saying that the goal at the moment is to explore the potential of this project. This is not yet an endorsement by or partnership with the Federation.

My hope is to gather some experts with experience to brainstorm the practicalities of constructing and testing an interface and related components for a simulator setup that blind people could use to practice the phases of flight, as well as a more far-reaching goal of rigging an aircraft with necessary sensors to pass data with as little latency through a similar interface, incorporating the EarPilot developer in the process. We would then conference with the EarPilot team to talk over the concept and next steps. Ideally, we would come away from the session (or sessions depending on how things play out) with estimations of functional requirements, timelines, rough costs and an overall understanding of what would be needed to accomplish these goals. If all goes well, I would then propose this to President Riccobono to seek approval for collaboration.

Transparently, I do not know what backgrounds would be the most useful for SED to bring to this initiative. Your understanding of the membership would be invaluable in reaching out to potential interested parties. Please stress that this is still in very early stages and is not yet an NFB project, but we hope to understand enough of the practical pieces to make a strong proposal to President Riccobono in hopes of officially collaborating with the team.

Information about EarPilot, including the open source code of the iPhone app and demo videos, can be found at:
https://eclecticode.com/earpilot/

Thanks so much for any help and connections you can provide. As an aviation enthusiast, I would love to see this dream become reality. It would be a powerful message for the NFB to send, of course, but more to the point, it would be another concrete demonstration that blind people can do anything we want with the right tools at our disposal.


Thanks,
Charles Hiser CPACC
JAWS Certified, NVDA Certified Expert
Accessibility Excellence Advocate, Education and Employment
200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
410-659-9314, extension 2239| chiser at nfb.org<mailto:chiser at nfb.org>


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From johnmillerphd at hotmail.com  Fri Mar 27 23:29:37 2026
From: johnmillerphd at hotmail.com (John Miller)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 23:29:37 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] making an audio call in Microsoft Teams and other Teams
 tasks
Message-ID: 
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Hello,
I know quite a number of individuals on the NFB lists are quite proficient with Microsoft Teams including Teams chat.
I am more of a so-so individual in terms of my technical proficiency.
I would be interested in your feedback on the steps I provide below.
I would also like to hear about how you do activities in Microsoft Teams.
I have had some limited success using Microsoft Teams Windows desktop application for meetings, audio calls, and chats.
Here is a brief write-up of several activities I do in Teams and the keystrokes to get the job done.
For quite some time I have struggled with how to initiate an audio call in teams with a colleague.
Using JAWS I asked Vispero Companion at fscompanion.ai this question and got a quite useful response.

If a meeting is on my calendar, I have no trouble connecting with the meeting.  This can be done from within the meeting reminder in Outlook or directly in Teams in the calendar view.
Vispero provides training about how to join a Teams meeting from the meeting reminder.
To get to the calendar view in Teams, just press control-3 in Teams.
In 2025 this hotkey changed.  It used to be control-4 and then one day it was control-3.
It may change again so be alert.

Once in the calendar view just up arrow or down arrow through the times.  JAWS announces the time and the presence of a meeting at a particular timeslot.
You can also press tab or shift-tab to move between meetings in this view.
To join a meeting press enter on a meeting, tab quite a bit, press enter on join meeting, tab through audio and video choices while selecting or unselecting the checkboxes for things like microphone, and then press enter on join.
I believe the final join button indicates whether the microphone and camera are on or not.
After joining the meeting, mute and unmute with control-shift-m.
Exit the meeting with control-shift-h.
During the meeting you can tab around and find a list of participants currently on the call.

To make an audio call to someone begin a chat with that individual.
You could for example press control-2 to go to a list of chats.  Arrow through the chats and press enter on the chat of interest.
You could instead begin a new chat with control-n and type in the individual's name.
As you type Microsoft provides a list that shrinks as you type more and more characters of the individual's name.
You can arrow down through the choices provided by Teams and select one with enter.

Microsoft calls the field where you type your message the compose box. Microsoft calls who is in the chat the participants list.
The hotkey control-r returns to the compose box from many fields that are near the chat.

Once you are in the compose box Just press alt-shift-a to bring up an audio call to the individual in the chat.
For me this is the fewest number of steps to start an audio call I have found.

Before I send a message in chat that I am ready to send I like to first verify who it is going to.  To do so I leave the compose box with shift-tab.  After several shift-tabs I land on the participant list.
After I verify the participant list I can return to the compose box with control-r.
When inside the compose box pressing enter sends the chat message.
Very best,
John Miller
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From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com  Fri Mar 27 23:53:53 2026
From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 18:53:53 -0500
Subject: [NFBCS] Seeking Expertise for Feasibility of EarPilot
 Collaboration
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Good evening everyone,

 

                This is a wonderful idea but let history be our guide. The
Blind Driver Challenge was a smashing success. Both of us supported it.
Since then the innovation has shifted from developing an interface to allow
a blind person to drive a car independently to replacing human drivers with
autonomous vehicles. This same path is happening in the World of flight. San
Antonio is fast becoming a hub for autonomous air taxi and plans are in the
works to create one of the first air taxi services in the country right here
in the Alamo City. Don't take my word for it. Learn more at the following:

 

Flying taxis could launch in San Antonio, other Texas cities under new TxDOT
program:
https://www.ksat.com/news/2026/03/11/flying-taxis-could-launch-in-san-antoni
o-other-texas-cities-under-new-txdot-program/

Electric flying cars? South Texas' first vertiport gaining steam in San
Antonio | Port San Antonio: https://portsanantonio.us/SkyGrid

 

A Texas-sized Home for Advanced Air Mobility Innovation | Port San Antonio:
https://www.portsanantonio.us/AAM
<https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/austin/article/texas-air-taxis-22086270.p
hp> 

Air taxis will soon be test flying across Texas skies:
<https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/austin/article/texas-air-taxis-22086270.p
hp> 

 

 

Vertical takeoff air taxis could be coming to San Antonio:
https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/vertical-takeoff-air-taxis-could-be-c
oming-to-san-antonio-texas-selected-for-test-program

 

                While the idea of blind persons flying aircraft
independently is awesome let's not ignore the lessons of history and work to
insure that human operated and autonomous VTOL aircraft can be piloted
independently by the blind and in-cabin features of such aircraft are
designed to be blind-friendly by including accessibility features for both
blind pilots and passengers. Waymo began operation in San Antonio last month
and we're looking forward to taking our first autonomous rideshare trip.
Autonomous air taxi service is coming to San Antonio in the very near
future.

 

Peter Donahue

 

 

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Louis Maher via NFBCS
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2026 3:48 PM
To: nfbcs at nfbnet.orgs
Cc: Louis Maher <ljmaher03 at outlook.com>; chiser at nfb.org
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Seeking Expertise for Feasibility of EarPilot
Collaboration

 

From: Hiser, Charles 
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2026 12:08 PM
To: 'johnmillerphd at hotmail.com' <johnmillerphd at hotmail.com
<mailto:johnmillerphd at hotmail.com> >
Subject: Seeking Expertise for Feasibility of EarPilot Collaboration

 

Dear John,

 

My name is Charles Hiser, one of the new Accessibility Excellence Advocates
on staff at the NFB Jernigan Institute. I was recently asked to collaborate
with a small team of pilots in Minnesota who are designing an app that
translates data from iPhone sensors into audio cues to enable a blind person
to fly a plane. They are seeking technical expertise with the hopes of
creating an interface that would reduce latency in the delivery of
information and improve the accuracy, as well as be intuitive for blind
people in a cockpit setting. They are aiming to test the idea on simulators
but also want to explore how this could be brought to an aircraft. The
ultimate goal is a kind of "Blind Flyer Challenge" modeled on the
philosophies of the Blind Driver Challenge that the NFB most recently
demonstrated with Dan Parker in 2022. I am reaching out to you to tap the
members of the Science and Engineering Division to put together a small team
of people who could speak to the theoretical feasibility of these goals.

 

While EarPilot has been proven to convey the information necessary to
successfully and safely complete limited bank, pitch and turn maneuvers, it
is still in the early testing phase of its lifecycle. There is no mechanism
to pass information to a blind pilot to complete more drastic maneuvers,
taxiing, landing or take-off. A sighted pilot must establish the aircraft in
clear practice airspace before passing control to the blind pilot. Because
of this, I would like to be clear in saying that the goal at the moment is
to explore the potential of this project. This is not yet an endorsement by
or partnership with the Federation.

 

My hope is to gather some experts with experience to brainstorm the
practicalities of constructing and testing an interface and related
components for a simulator setup that blind people could use to practice the
phases of flight, as well as a more far-reaching goal of rigging an aircraft
with necessary sensors to pass data with as little latency through a similar
interface, incorporating the EarPilot developer in the process. We would
then conference with the EarPilot team to talk over the concept and next
steps. Ideally, we would come away from the session (or sessions depending
on how things play out) with estimations of functional requirements,
timelines, rough costs and an overall understanding of what would be needed
to accomplish these goals. If all goes well, I would then propose this to
President Riccobono to seek approval for collaboration.

 

Transparently, I do not know what backgrounds would be the most useful for
SED to bring to this initiative. Your understanding of the membership would
be invaluable in reaching out to potential interested parties. Please stress
that this is still in very early stages and is not yet an NFB project, but
we hope to understand enough of the practical pieces to make a strong
proposal to President Riccobono in hopes of officially collaborating with
the team.

 

Information about EarPilot, including the open source code of the iPhone app
and demo videos, can be found at:

https://eclecticode.com/earpilot/

 

Thanks so much for any help and connections you can provide. As an aviation
enthusiast, I would love to see this dream become reality. It would be a
powerful message for the NFB to send, of course, but more to the point, it
would be another concrete demonstration that blind people can do anything we
want with the right tools at our disposal.

 

 

Thanks,

Charles Hiser CPACC

JAWS Certified, NVDA Certified Expert
Accessibility Excellence Advocate, Education and Employment
200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230

410-659-9314, extension 2239|  <mailto:chiser at nfb.org> chiser at nfb.org 

 

 

 <https://nfb.org/> 

 

 
<http://www.facebook.com/nationalfederationoftheblind>
<https://twitter.com/NFB_Voice>      <https://www.youtube.com/NationsBlind> 

 

The National Federation of the Blind is a community of members and friends
who believe in the hopes and dr eams of the nation's blind. Every day we
work together to help blind people live the lives they want.

 

 

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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Sat Mar 28 00:46:17 2026
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2026 00:46:17 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] making an audio call in Microsoft Teams and other Teams
 tasks
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Thank you John, this is great.

I will let you know my team adventures when I get my team running.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
Email: ljmaher03 at outlook.com

From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of John Miller via NFBCS
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2026 6:30 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: John Miller <johnmillerphd at hotmail.com>
Subject: [NFBCS] making an audio call in Microsoft Teams and other Teams tasks

Hello,
I know quite a number of individuals on the NFB lists are quite proficient with Microsoft Teams including Teams chat.
I am more of a so-so individual in terms of my technical proficiency.
I would be interested in your feedback on the steps I provide below.
I would also like to hear about how you do activities in Microsoft Teams.
I have had some limited success using Microsoft Teams Windows desktop application for meetings, audio calls, and chats.
Here is a brief write-up of several activities I do in Teams and the keystrokes to get the job done.
For quite some time I have struggled with how to initiate an audio call in teams with a colleague.
Using JAWS I asked Vispero Companion at fscompanion.ai this question and got a quite useful response.

If a meeting is on my calendar, I have no trouble connecting with the meeting.  This can be done from within the meeting reminder in Outlook or directly in Teams in the calendar view.
Vispero provides training about how to join a Teams meeting from the meeting reminder.
To get to the calendar view in Teams, just press control-3 in Teams.
In 2025 this hotkey changed.  It used to be control-4 and then one day it was control-3.
It may change again so be alert.

Once in the calendar view just up arrow or down arrow through the times.  JAWS announces the time and the presence of a meeting at a particular timeslot.
You can also press tab or shift-tab to move between meetings in this view.
To join a meeting press enter on a meeting, tab quite a bit, press enter on join meeting, tab through audio and video choices while selecting or unselecting the checkboxes for things like microphone, and then press enter on join.
I believe the final join button indicates whether the microphone and camera are on or not.
After joining the meeting, mute and unmute with control-shift-m.
Exit the meeting with control-shift-h.
During the meeting you can tab around and find a list of participants currently on the call.

To make an audio call to someone begin a chat with that individual.
You could for example press control-2 to go to a list of chats.  Arrow through the chats and press enter on the chat of interest.
You could instead begin a new chat with control-n and type in the individual's name.
As you type Microsoft provides a list that shrinks as you type more and more characters of the individual's name.
You can arrow down through the choices provided by Teams and select one with enter.

Microsoft calls the field where you type your message the compose box. Microsoft calls who is in the chat the participants list.
The hotkey control-r returns to the compose box from many fields that are near the chat.

Once you are in the compose box Just press alt-shift-a to bring up an audio call to the individual in the chat.
For me this is the fewest number of steps to start an audio call I have found.

Before I send a message in chat that I am ready to send I like to first verify who it is going to.  To do so I leave the compose box with shift-tab.  After several shift-tabs I land on the participant list.
After I verify the participant list I can return to the compose box with control-r.
When inside the compose box pressing enter sends the chat message.
Very best,
John Miller
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From shellbr at runbox.com  Sat Mar 28 12:06:29 2026
From: shellbr at runbox.com (Brian Shell)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2026 08:06:29 -0400
Subject: [NFBCS] Mantis Q40
Message-ID: <b918eeea-5178-4b80-af87-1493e3638186@runbox.com>

If someone has a Mantis Q40, firmware 2.6.0 build 5120, and a Windows 11 
PC, can you contact me off list?  I'm having an intermittent lockup 
issue I figured out how to reproduce and I'm trying to determine if it's 
just my device or a larger issue.

From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Sat Mar 28 20:59:13 2026
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2026 20:59:13 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] Mantis Q40
In-Reply-To: <b918eeea-5178-4b80-af87-1493e3638186@runbox.com>
References: <b918eeea-5178-4b80-af87-1493e3638186@runbox.com>
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Hello Brian,

I have a Mantis Q40, firmware 2.6.0 build 5120, and a Windows 11 laptop. What did you have in mind. Sadly my Sunday is full as is my Monday until about 3 PM.



PC, 

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
Email: ljmaher03 at outlook.com

-----Original Message-----
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Shell via NFBCS
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2026 7:06 AM
To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
Cc: Brian Shell <shellbr at runbox.com>
Subject: [NFBCS] Mantis Q40

If someone has a Mantis Q40, firmware 2.6.0 build 5120, and a Windows 11 
PC, can you contact me off list?  I'm having an intermittent lockup 
issue I figured out how to reproduce and I'm trying to determine if it's 
just my device or a larger issue.


From shellbr at runbox.com  Sat Mar 28 22:36:11 2026
From: shellbr at runbox.com (Brian Shell)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2026 18:36:11 -0400
Subject: [NFBCS] Mantis Q40
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Hi Louis,

I just got my Mantis about a week ago and been working with support pretty much since day 1.  Having issues with Library app crashing and device freezing.  Support was able to reproduce the Library crash after I sent them the text file I was trying to read; so it is some parsing issue.  The freezes are harder to reproduce, but I figured out a process that gets to the result. I sent this procedure to them on Thursday and waiting on a response.  The thing is, my 30 day refund option is ticking away so I'd really like to know if it's only my device so I can decide to swap it for another one or do a refund.  If you can give this a try and let me know that would be great.

1. Make sure firmware 2.6.0 build 5120
2. Change the setting: ask to open USB connection = ask for connection
3. Shutdown Mantis with no USB connected
4. Power on Mantis
5. Open the Editor.  No need to create a file or anything.  Just let it open and press ESC
6. Connect USB to a Windows 11 computer and Windows will see It. The message asking to open USB in terminal app should not appear.  If it does appear, disconnect the USB and dismiss the charger disconnected message. Wait a few seconds and reconnect USB cable.  You might need to do this a few times; usually happens on the first or second try.
7. When you finally are able to connect without getting a message asking to open terminal, this game is almost over.
8. Disconnect the USB and you should not get the charger disconnected message as you also did not get the open terminal message.
8. Go to power off and press enter and you should not get a response
9. You can proceed to scroll through other menu items, and some will respond but the device should become sluggish and lock up within a very short time.

Let me know.  Hopefully you will not be able to reproduce this.

Brian

> On Mar 28, 2026, at 5:01 PM, Louis Maher via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ﻿Hello Brian,
> 
> I have a Mantis Q40, firmware 2.6.0 build 5120, and a Windows 11 laptop. What did you have in mind. Sadly my Sunday is full as is my Monday until about 3 PM.
> 
> 
> 
> PC, 
> 
> Regards
> Louis Maher
> Phone: 713-444-7838
> Email: ljmaher03 at outlook.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Shell via NFBCS
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2026 7:06 AM
> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Brian Shell <shellbr at runbox.com>
> Subject: [NFBCS] Mantis Q40
> 
> If someone has a Mantis Q40, firmware 2.6.0 build 5120, and a Windows 11 
> PC, can you contact me off list?  I'm having an intermittent lockup 
> issue I figured out how to reproduce and I'm trying to determine if it's 
> just my device or a larger issue.
> 
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From shellbr at runbox.com  Sat Mar 28 23:04:16 2026
From: shellbr at runbox.com (Brian Shell)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2026 19:04:16 -0400
Subject: [NFBCS] Mantis Q40
In-Reply-To: <65F92D60-8092-4F21-978E-BDB86E0E559E@runbox.com>
References: <65F92D60-8092-4F21-978E-BDB86E0E559E@runbox.com>
Message-ID: <A6618C16-1A7E-401E-A308-E9A87F640F8C@runbox.com>

Sorry I didn’t realize my reply was going to the list. Anyway, after Louis and Eric get their findings back to me, that will be enough accounts to let me know what action I need to take on Monday.

Thanks everyone.
Brian

> On Mar 28, 2026, at 6:38 PM, Brian Shell via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> ﻿Hi Louis,
> 
> I just got my Mantis about a week ago and been working with support pretty much since day 1.  Having issues with Library app crashing and device freezing.  Support was able to reproduce the Library crash after I sent them the text file I was trying to read; so it is some parsing issue.  The freezes are harder to reproduce, but I figured out a process that gets to the result. I sent this procedure to them on Thursday and waiting on a response.  The thing is, my 30 day refund option is ticking away so I'd really like to know if it's only my device so I can decide to swap it for another one or do a refund.  If you can give this a try and let me know that would be great.
> 
> 1. Make sure firmware 2.6.0 build 5120
> 2. Change the setting: ask to open USB connection = ask for connection
> 3. Shutdown Mantis with no USB connected
> 4. Power on Mantis
> 5. Open the Editor.  No need to create a file or anything.  Just let it open and press ESC
> 6. Connect USB to a Windows 11 computer and Windows will see It. The message asking to open USB in terminal app should not appear.  If it does appear, disconnect the USB and dismiss the charger disconnected message. Wait a few seconds and reconnect USB cable.  You might need to do this a few times; usually happens on the first or second try.
> 7. When you finally are able to connect without getting a message asking to open terminal, this game is almost over.
> 8. Disconnect the USB and you should not get the charger disconnected message as you also did not get the open terminal message.
> 8. Go to power off and press enter and you should not get a response
> 9. You can proceed to scroll through other menu items, and some will respond but the device should become sluggish and lock up within a very short time.
> 
> Let me know.  Hopefully you will not be able to reproduce this.
> 
> Brian
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2026, at 5:01 PM, Louis Maher via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ﻿Hello Brian,
>> 
>> I have a Mantis Q40, firmware 2.6.0 build 5120, and a Windows 11 laptop. What did you have in mind. Sadly my Sunday is full as is my Monday until about 3 PM.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> PC,
>> 
>> Regards
>> Louis Maher
>> Phone: 713-444-7838
>> Email: ljmaher03 at outlook.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Shell via NFBCS
>> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2026 7:06 AM
>> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Brian Shell <shellbr at runbox.com>
>> Subject: [NFBCS] Mantis Q40
>> 
>> If someone has a Mantis Q40, firmware 2.6.0 build 5120, and a Windows 11
>> PC, can you contact me off list?  I'm having an intermittent lockup
>> issue I figured out how to reproduce and I'm trying to determine if it's
>> just my device or a larger issue.
>> 
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From ljmaher03 at outlook.com  Sun Mar 29 01:12:34 2026
From: ljmaher03 at outlook.com (Louis Maher)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2026 01:12:34 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] Mantis Q40
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Hello Brian,

I am sorry, I do not understand your instructions. Anyway I am unwilling to figure it out.

My Windows 11 Mantis using office products works great.

I am not going to try.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
Email: ljmaher03 at outlook.com

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From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian Shell via NFBCS
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2026 5:36 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Brian Shell <shellbr at runbox.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] Mantis Q40

Hi Louis,

I just got my Mantis about a week ago and been working with support pretty much since day 1.  Having issues with Library app crashing and device freezing.  Support was able to reproduce the Library crash after I sent them the text file I was trying to read; so it is some parsing issue.  The freezes are harder to reproduce, but I figured out a process that gets to the result. I sent this procedure to them on Thursday and waiting on a response.  The thing is, my 30 day refund option is ticking away so I'd really like to know if it's only my device so I can decide to swap it for another one or do a refund.  If you can give this a try and let me know that would be great.

1. Make sure firmware 2.6.0 build 5120
2. Change the setting: ask to open USB connection = ask for connection
3. Shutdown Mantis with no USB connected
4. Power on Mantis
5. Open the Editor.  No need to create a file or anything.  Just let it open and press ESC
6. Connect USB to a Windows 11 computer and Windows will see It. The message asking to open USB in terminal app should not appear.  If it does appear, disconnect the USB and dismiss the charger disconnected message. Wait a few seconds and reconnect USB cable.  You might need to do this a few times; usually happens on the first or second try.
7. When you finally are able to connect without getting a message asking to open terminal, this game is almost over.
8. Disconnect the USB and you should not get the charger disconnected message as you also did not get the open terminal message.
8. Go to power off and press enter and you should not get a response
9. You can proceed to scroll through other menu items, and some will respond but the device should become sluggish and lock up within a very short time.

Let me know.  Hopefully you will not be able to reproduce this.

Brian

> On Mar 28, 2026, at 5:01 PM, Louis Maher via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ﻿Hello Brian,
>
> I have a Mantis Q40, firmware 2.6.0 build 5120, and a Windows 11 laptop. What did you have in mind. Sadly my Sunday is full as is my Monday until about 3 PM.
>
>
>
> PC,
>
> Regards
> Louis Maher
> Phone: 713-444-7838
> Email: ljmaher03 at outlook.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: nfbcs at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Brian Shell <shellbr at runbox.com>
> Subject: [NFBCS] Mantis Q40
>
> If someone has a Mantis Q40, firmware 2.6.0 build 5120, and a Windows 11
> PC, can you contact me off list?  I'm having an intermittent lockup
> issue I figured out how to reproduce and I'm trying to determine if it's
> just my device or a larger issue.
>
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From chaltain at outlook.com  Sun Mar 29 11:29:56 2026
From: chaltain at outlook.com (Christopher Chaltain)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2026 11:29:56 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] making an audio call in Microsoft Teams and other Teams
 tasks
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I'll forward this to my work account and take a look at these steps when I'm in teams, but I do have a few tips below. Also, what tasks are you interested in performing in Teams?

The hot key to take you to different channels in Teams is control+number-key. The number represents its position in the channels you have open, similar to the task bar in Windows or the tabs in Outlook. If the shortcut key for your calendar changed from control+4 to control+3 then that means a channel was removed before the calendar channel. At the office, control+4 takes me to the calendar channel since my employer added the learning channel as the first channel in the list of channels. Note you can configure this order yourself. Note this is just informational and doesn't change any of your steps below.

When joining a meeting from the calendar channel, instead of "To join a meeting press enter on a meeting," I hit the applications key when on a meeting and and then select join the meeting. I think this is the default when you bring up the context menu, so you just need to hit enter after hitting the applications key. Note that in the context menu, the next item is to chat with the participants in the meeting. This will open up a chat without joining the meeting. I use this quite a bit. For example, if I'm going to be late to a meeting, I'll use this to let everyone know I'm running behind.

Like I said, I'll take a look at these the next time I log into my office computer to double check these steps. Freedom Scientific also has some webinars on using Teams, so I'd suggest checking these out. Finally, respond with any other questions you have or ations you want to know about in Teams. Teams has surpassed Outlook as the application I spend the most time in while at the office.



--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA




________________________________
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of John Miller via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2026 6:29 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: John Miller <johnmillerphd at hotmail.com>
Subject: [NFBCS] making an audio call in Microsoft Teams and other Teams tasks

Hello,
I know quite a number of individuals on the NFB lists are quite proficient with Microsoft Teams including Teams chat.
I am more of a so-so individual in terms of my technical proficiency.
I would be interested in your feedback on the steps I provide below.
I would also like to hear about how you do activities in Microsoft Teams.
I have had some limited success using Microsoft Teams Windows desktop application for meetings, audio calls, and chats.
Here is a brief write-up of several activities I do in Teams and the keystrokes to get the job done.
For quite some time I have struggled with how to initiate an audio call in teams with a colleague.
Using JAWS I asked Vispero Companion at fscompanion.ai this question and got a quite useful response.

If a meeting is on my calendar, I have no trouble connecting with the meeting.  This can be done from within the meeting reminder in Outlook or directly in Teams in the calendar view.
Vispero provides training about how to join a Teams meeting from the meeting reminder.
To get to the calendar view in Teams, just press control-3 in Teams.
In 2025 this hotkey changed.  It used to be control-4 and then one day it was control-3.
It may change again so be alert.

Once in the calendar view just up arrow or down arrow through the times.  JAWS announces the time and the presence of a meeting at a particular timeslot.
You can also press tab or shift-tab to move between meetings in this view.
To join a meeting press enter on a meeting, tab quite a bit, press enter on join meeting, tab through audio and video choices while selecting or unselecting the checkboxes for things like microphone, and then press enter on join.
I believe the final join button indicates whether the microphone and camera are on or not.
After joining the meeting, mute and unmute with control-shift-m.
Exit the meeting with control-shift-h.
During the meeting you can tab around and find a list of participants currently on the call.

To make an audio call to someone begin a chat with that individual.
You could for example press control-2 to go to a list of chats.  Arrow through the chats and press enter on the chat of interest.
You could instead begin a new chat with control-n and type in the individual's name.
As you type Microsoft provides a list that shrinks as you type more and more characters of the individual's name.
You can arrow down through the choices provided by Teams and select one with enter.

Microsoft calls the field where you type your message the compose box. Microsoft calls who is in the chat the participants list.
The hotkey control-r returns to the compose box from many fields that are near the chat.

Once you are in the compose box Just press alt-shift-a to bring up an audio call to the individual in the chat.
For me this is the fewest number of steps to start an audio call I have found.

Before I send a message in chat that I am ready to send I like to first verify who it is going to.  To do so I leave the compose box with shift-tab.  After several shift-tabs I land on the participant list.
After I verify the participant list I can return to the compose box with control-r.
When inside the compose box pressing enter sends the chat message.
Very best,
John Miller
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From jmosen at nfb.org  Sun Mar 29 12:05:36 2026
From: jmosen at nfb.org (Mosen, Jonathan)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2026 12:05:36 +0000
Subject: [NFBCS] making an audio call in Microsoft Teams and other Teams
 tasks
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Hi all, the reason the assignment of the CTRL+number keys has changed for many people of late is that Microsoft recently rolled out a new "Combined" view that merges Chats and Teams into a single hub. Because this changes the order and number of "apps" in your sidebar, the Ctrl + number shortcuts (which navigate to items in the sidebar sequentially) no longer land where you expect them to.
Microsoft tells me that this new view is better, but if you want the old behavior back, you can press CTRL+Comma to go to Settings, Select Chats and Channels if you are running a relatively recent version of Teams, and change the radio button from combined view to separate. The number keys will then revert to their previous assignments.
Brian Hartgen is almost complete with a revamp of his course called "Winning Teams", and this is the most thorough Teams audio tutorial I have come across.
At CENA, we also did a webinar last year which included a look at hosting meetings using Teams, but it is not a full Teams tutorial.

Jonathan Mosen
Executive Director for Accessibility Excellence
National Federation of the Blind
410-659-9314 ex 2233
jmosen at nfb.org<mailto:jmosen at nfb.org>

Reminder: Attend National Convention<https://nfb.org/convention>, July 3-8, 2026, in Austin, Texas.
"It's the time of year where blind people are the majority."
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From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain via NFBCS
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2026 7:30 AM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [NFBCS] making an audio call in Microsoft Teams and other Teams tasks

I'll forward this to my work account and take a look at these steps when I'm in teams, but I do have a few tips below. Also, what tasks are you interested in performing in Teams?

The hot key to take you to different channels in Teams is control+number-key. The number represents its position in the channels you have open, similar to the task bar in Windows or the tabs in Outlook. If the shortcut key for your calendar changed from control+4 to control+3 then that means a channel was removed before the calendar channel. At the office, control+4 takes me to the calendar channel since my employer added the learning channel as the first channel in the list of channels. Note you can configure this order yourself. Note this is just informational and doesn't change any of your steps below.

When joining a meeting from the calendar channel, instead of "To join a meeting press enter on a meeting," I hit the applications key when on a meeting and and then select join the meeting. I think this is the default when you bring up the context menu, so you just need to hit enter after hitting the applications key. Note that in the context menu, the next item is to chat with the participants in the meeting. This will open up a chat without joining the meeting. I use this quite a bit. For example, if I'm going to be late to a meeting, I'll use this to let everyone know I'm running behind.

Like I said, I'll take a look at these the next time I log into my office computer to double check these steps. Freedom Scientific also has some webinars on using Teams, so I'd suggest checking these out. Finally, respond with any other questions you have or ations you want to know about in Teams. Teams has surpassed Outlook as the application I spend the most time in while at the office.



--

Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷

Chaltain at Outlook, USA




________________________________
From: NFBCS <nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org>> on behalf of John Miller via NFBCS <nfbcs at nfbnet.org<mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org>>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2026 6:29 PM
To: NFB in Computer Science Mailing List <nfbcs at nfbnet.org<mailto:nfbcs at nfbnet.org>>
Cc: John Miller <johnmillerphd at hotmail.com<mailto:johnmillerphd at hotmail.com>>
Subject: [NFBCS] making an audio call in Microsoft Teams and other Teams tasks

Hello,
I know quite a number of individuals on the NFB lists are quite proficient with Microsoft Teams including Teams chat.
I am more of a so-so individual in terms of my technical proficiency.
I would be interested in your feedback on the steps I provide below.
I would also like to hear about how you do activities in Microsoft Teams.
I have had some limited success using Microsoft Teams Windows desktop application for meetings, audio calls, and chats.
Here is a brief write-up of several activities I do in Teams and the keystrokes to get the job done.
For quite some time I have struggled with how to initiate an audio call in teams with a colleague.
Using JAWS I asked Vispero Companion at fscompanion.ai this question and got a quite useful response.

If a meeting is on my calendar, I have no trouble connecting with the meeting.  This can be done from within the meeting reminder in Outlook or directly in Teams in the calendar view.
Vispero provides training about how to join a Teams meeting from the meeting reminder.
To get to the calendar view in Teams, just press control-3 in Teams.
In 2025 this hotkey changed.  It used to be control-4 and then one day it was control-3.
It may change again so be alert.

Once in the calendar view just up arrow or down arrow through the times.  JAWS announces the time and the presence of a meeting at a particular timeslot.
You can also press tab or shift-tab to move between meetings in this view.
To join a meeting press enter on a meeting, tab quite a bit, press enter on join meeting, tab through audio and video choices while selecting or unselecting the checkboxes for things like microphone, and then press enter on join.
I believe the final join button indicates whether the microphone and camera are on or not.
After joining the meeting, mute and unmute with control-shift-m.
Exit the meeting with control-shift-h.
During the meeting you can tab around and find a list of participants currently on the call.

To make an audio call to someone begin a chat with that individual.
You could for example press control-2 to go to a list of chats.  Arrow through the chats and press enter on the chat of interest.
You could instead begin a new chat with control-n and type in the individual's name.
As you type Microsoft provides a list that shrinks as you type more and more characters of the individual's name.
You can arrow down through the choices provided by Teams and select one with enter.

Microsoft calls the field where you type your message the compose box. Microsoft calls who is in the chat the participants list.
The hotkey control-r returns to the compose box from many fields that are near the chat.

Once you are in the compose box Just press alt-shift-a to bring up an audio call to the individual in the chat.
For me this is the fewest number of steps to start an audio call I have found.

Before I send a message in chat that I am ready to send I like to first verify who it is going to.  To do so I leave the compose box with shift-tab.  After several shift-tabs I land on the participant list.
After I verify the participant list I can return to the compose box with control-r.
When inside the compose box pressing enter sends the chat message.
Very best,
John Miller

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