[Nfbf-l] Florida state

[RJ Sandefur]

Criss, do you know Beth? She's also at Florida State. Are you on skype? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Toth" <q.alpha at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Florida state


> Thank you for your helpful, well-considered response.  Of course the 
> country-wide unemployment issue can be traced back to a lack of an O&M 
> program at a single University, and you're quite right that we don't at 
> all need to worry about blind students getting into relatively advanced 
> fields.  I'm sorry I interrupted you.
>
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> RJ Sandefur wrote:
>> But If you don't have OandM, How are blind kids going to learn cane 
>> travel? If you don't have vision teachers, How are blind children going 
>> to learn braille? We gripe and mone, that 72, percent of the blind are 
>> unimployed... well, their's your answer! RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Toth" <q.alpha at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 2:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Florida state
>>
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>>> Their O&M program is of little consequence, in my opinion, if students 
>>> which go here aren't even getting their basic accessibility needs met.
>>> For instance, I'd like to invite you to try their math portal:
>>> http://einstein.math.fsu.edu:9080/students
>>> Go to that website, navigate to an assignment which does not require 
>>> signup, and attempt to access it with any screen reader.
>>> Then, consider the troubling fact that this eGrade software is utilized 
>>> for 100% of undergraduate math courses at FSU, on every single practice 
>>> assignment, homework, quiz, and exam with no provisions for visually 
>>> impaired students.  Further consider that at least some of these math 
>>> courses are required to enter any STEM field.
>>> Or perhaps the case of the inaccessible PRS transmitters -- small 
>>> electronic devices which are required in political science courses for 
>>> tracking attendance and answering quiz questions but have exactly 0 
>>> audible feedback and require an inaccessible setup/class joining process 
>>> daily.
>>> I am a second-year student here at this fine university, and I have 
>>> recently switched my major from computer science, my passion, to 
>>> political science because none of my needs were being met by the 
>>> inaccessible math program.  Things are bad here, to the point where I 
>>> have contacted the folks in Baltimore for some assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>> RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>> I heard that Florida state is cuting their orentation and mobility 
>>>> program! They must not care about the blind of their state! What is the 
>>>> NFBF of Florida going to do about this? RJ
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