[Nfbf-l] NFBF 2010 State Convention

Thu Jun 3 04:45:22 UTC 2010

I know sherry. I'm upset, because I remember what it was like when I was 
there, and tese changes are bringing back memories! Why could we not just 
build our own NFB center here in Florida? RJh
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From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
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> RJ, with all due respect to those at the center, that is probably why 
> specific changes were not discussed with us. They knew we would not be 
> happy! Again, I tried to ask about them, particularly the name change, but 
> I never got the chance.
> Sherri
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> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
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>> Holly, I'm not impressed with what's going on at the Center! I heard the 
>> FCB convention, and I didn't like what I heard! Doing away with Craig's 
>> guidedog policy, changing the name of the center, Its changing right back 
>> to the way it was when we were there in 1999! It's disgusting and 
>> repolsive! RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
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>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:07 AM
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>>
>>> Judy,
>>> When going to college to learn how to teach orientation and mobility, we 
>>> are
>>> exposed to a few chapter and/or handouts on how to teach a person
>>> orientation skill when the student is working a guide dog. We are not
>>> trained to retrain a guide dog, but we are taught how to teach cane 
>>> skills.
>>> As a guide dog user, have you ever had a day where your dog got sick or 
>>> you
>>> did not want to work him or her? When and if this ever happens, I feel 
>>> that
>>> the student should have good cane skills.
>>>
>>> Not all schools are stricked on mobility skills when you enter their 
>>> guide
>>> dog school. We would hope for all the schools to have standards, but 
>>> that is
>>> not the case.
>>>
>>> Sometimes students come in when their vision has changed drasticly after
>>> getting a dog.  They may have had the dog for several months or even 
>>> years.
>>> However, due to the use of the vision, the dog is not working as well as 
>>> he
>>> or she should be and this causes an unsafe team.
>>>
>>> Not all guide dog users need to leave the dog in the mobility classroom 
>>> or
>>> with a sitter. Not all guide dogs need to be retrained, either. But I 
>>> want
>>> to have a person travel safely no matter what mobility tool they choose 
>>> to
>>> use.
>>>
>>> Sherri's dog Bailey got sick over the weekend and has been at the vet 
>>> since
>>> Friday morning. I am glad that she had kept up with her cane skills, 
>>> while
>>> being a guide dog user. She was able to pull out her cane and get 
>>> anywhere
>>> and everywhere through the convention that she wanted or needed to go.
>>> Without keeping up with the cane skills, she would have had to be 
>>> dependent
>>> on someone else or be an unsafe traveler.
>>>
>>> Holly
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Jody W. Ianuzzi 
>>> <jody at thewhitehats.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I used a cane for over 30 years before I got my first guide dog.  the
>>>> difference is dramatic.  They are not interchangeable.  They are two 
>>>> very
>>>> separate skills.
>>>>
>>>> ALL guide dog schools require established O&M skills.  They don't feel 
>>>> it
>>>> is
>>>> their responsibility to teach travelers the basics.  Using a cane is 
>>>> like
>>>> having a pilots license and a guide dog is like getting an instrument
>>>> rating.
>>>>
>>>> I know my guide dog school not only asked for the names of my mobility
>>>> instructors but they also did an O&M evaluation as part of the 
>>>> interview
>>>> process.  I know they contacted the mobility instructor too because he
>>>> contacted me to congratulate me on getting a dog.
>>>>
>>>> You can't just hang the dog on a hook like you do a cane.  I work with 
>>>> my
>>>> dog every day building her skills.  It isn't always easy and al guide 
>>>> dog
>>>> relationships have their positive and negative aspects.
>>>>
>>>> I think the training centers should take all of this in to account when
>>>> retraining guide dog handlers with mobility lessons since all already 
>>>> have
>>>> the cane skills.
>>>>
>>>> JODY
>>>>
>>>>
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