[Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!!NationalConventionOrlandomanyyearstocome!!!

Bill Kociaba williamkociaba at comcast.net
Sun Jul 10 17:20:45 UTC 2011 

it can get draining.  You call Matt a young man.  I don't know his age or 
yours for that matter.  I am a few years the post side of fifty and have bee 
acused of viewing that glass as half empty a time or ten in my life.  I 
think perhaps less so as I get older and learn what really is most 
important.  If Matt is a young guy then he just needs time to realize how 
much worse it can be.  But again yes listening to all that negative crap 
over and over expecally when we all have to fight at times to not fall into 
it ourselves can be exhausting.  Honestly this discussion of it is getting a 
bit draining.
Lets all try to move forward from here...please

Bill Kociaba
CRUISEONE
Bill at Ycruise.com
954 227 7772 or Toll Free 877 227 7775
7600 Wiles Rd, Coral Springs, FL 33067
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready 
NFBF!!!NationalConventionOrlandomanyyearstocome!!!


> Bill, you probably are.  Patricia said it best when she said that Matt has
> always looked at the galss half empty rather than half full! I get a bit
> tired of negativity, as there are many of us that have real problems in 
> our
> lives and are not so negative dealing with all of it and it is tiring to
> hear someone younger, and without any major issues to be such a negative
> individual, you know? Just one man's insight is all! KH
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!!
> NationalConventionOrlandomanyyearstocome!!!
>
>
> Hi Kirk,
> Thank you so much for those realistic words. We all need a little 
> direction
> or help now and then sighted, blind or otherwise.  Asking for help is not 
> a
> sign of disability its a sign that you recognize the fact that no one can 
> do
> everything.
> As I don't know Matt other than a few words on here the only thing I can 
> say
> is at least he does go to those chapter meetings and made the evvort to be
> at convention.  I wonder if he really is son negative inside?  He is
> obviously very verbal about it but he does come out of his cave and that
> tells me there is some hope somewhere down deep inside him...at least I 
> hope
> I am reading it right
>
> Bill Kociaba
> CRUISEONE
> Bill at Ycruise.com
> 954 227 7772 or Toll Free 877 227 7775
> 7600 Wiles Rd, Coral Springs, FL 33067
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!! 
> NationalConventionOrlandomanyyearsto
> come!!!
>
>
>> Bill, "embracing: in the context in  which it was said does not infer
>> "endearing". It was meant to  state the need to grab on to the facts and
>> move in a positibe manner with them rather than trying to find fault with
>> all around him. He is the only individual I have known or have worked 
>> with
>> in the 14 years of blindness myself that has always found fault or
>> critisism
>> with every topic he has debate with. I have observed him in chapter
>> meetings, Tallahassee meeting  and talking with Senators and
>> Representatives, concepts of blindness, I could go on and on and I have
>> yet
>> to hear a positive word from Matt's mouth, whether it is in person or on
>> line. As far as asking for assistance at the Rosen, I am sure that even
>> the
>> sighted guests do the very same thing in such a hotel of this size and
>> magnitude. Foolish Pride is something I had to lose a long time ago and I
>> have no problem asking for assistance anymore even though I try to live 
>> as
>> independant as i possibly can in my day to days! Your friend in the 
>> cause,
>> Kirk
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bill Kociaba" <williamkociaba at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!! National
>> ConventionOrlandomanyyearsto come!!!
>>
>>
>> Hi Matt,
>> I don't know you at all and have no idea how long you have been blind or
>> what you do now or what you did before.  I  will totally aggree with you
>> that the lobby area really offers very little in landmarks.  I read that
>> descriptive article about the hotel prior to leaving and was expecting to
>> hear a bunch of squacking birds in that birdcage.  I figured that was
>> going
>> to be an obvious landmark to work from but never heard a peep from it.
>> Once
>> out of the lobby area though things weren't really too bad.  The lower
>> lobby
>> was pretty simple if you kept your ears open and the convention area as
>> well.  I did have the advantage of a very smart dog who knew how to find
>> the
>> elavators though. At least most of the time(LOL). The fact that there 
>> were
>> sevral sets of glass doors leading outside did make it very hard to 
>> locate
>> the relief area near the meeting rooms as well.  And no matter how
>> indipendent everyone claims to be I heard plenty of people asking, "where
>> is...." right up to the last day. There were plenty of hotel staff around
>> and if you were having trouble and chose to not ask...well then thats 
>> just
>> being prideful and foolish.     On the other hand I really found people
>> screaming, "escalators over here" over and over more of a distraction 
>> than
>> a
>> help. When things were quiet the sound of those escalators was pretty
>> obvious. I have been in hotels that were both easier and more difficult 
>> to
>> work through and always survived.If you hated this one, don't try any of
>> the
>> casino propertys in Vegas or Reno that are actually designed to make it
>> hard
>> to find your way out!  If this hotel and its challenges keeps you away
>> from
>> the convention in the future that is sad.  I came in contact with sevral 
>> O
>> and M people during the course of the week and I am sure that if you were
>> to
>> make contact with one of them that they wouldn't mind spending a bit of
>> time
>> with you helping you to get a better handle on things.
>>
>> On the subject of being "well adjusted"..I thought that one had been
>> exhausted already but if not, being well adjusted to anything does not
>> mean
>> you are always happy and glad you have that issue it means accepting it!
>> I
>> heard someone use the word embrace it...I don't know how you can embrace
>> losing your sight but you surley can accept that it has happened and at
>> the
>> moment there is nothing you or any of us can do about it...
>> Can we please put the well adjusted and how bad the hotel was topics to
>> rest.  Seems they are getting beat to death.
>>
>> Bill Kociaba
>> CRUISEONE
>> Bill at Ycruise.com
>> 954 227 7772 or Toll Free 877 227 7775
>> 7600 Wiles Rd, Coral Springs, FL 33067
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Matt Roberts" <blindbiker at yahoo.com>
>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!! National Convention
>> Orlandomanyyearsto come!!!
>>
>>
>>>I need to respond to this.  YOu folksw on this group don't know me very
>>>well.  You think you do but you don't.  From now on, I'm simply going to
>>>keep my mouth shut! I won't say anything!
>>> This place was extremely complex for me as an individual.  I was told by
>>> another blind person who has been at events here this place is difficult
>>> to navigate.  Places I see as complex take me a while to grasp.  If I
>>> can't form a mental picture in my mind of something, the item makes no
>>> sense to me.
>>> IF you know *ONE* person who is *TOTALLY* adjusted to their blindness 
>>> I"d
>>> certainly like to meet them.  You never can be totally adjusted to
>>> anything 100% of the time.
>>>
>>> Matt Roberts
>>> 386-679-1986
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 1:27 PM, "Kirk" <kvharmon54 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matt my friend, when will you start to accept your blindness and move
>>>> forward without complaints? I have been listening to you complain about
>>>> everything you are in contact with ever since you started commenting on
>>>> this
>>>> site again. I have knoown you for many years and you have always had
>>>> such
>>>> a
>>>> negative attitude about most everything and it is truly not what is 
>>>> your
>>>> perception of your surroundings as much as it is you and your 
>>>> negativity
>>>> about life in general! Please get counseling or something so you can
>>>> start
>>>> to move forward without such a negative attitude and perhaps your
>>>> comments
>>>> would be more enjoyable to read. I had many friends of mine that were
>>>> there,
>>>> as was I, and even the Totals with  me said once they learned their way
>>>> around they thought it was easy to do and they loved the Hotel.I have 
>>>> to
>>>> say
>>>> however, they all have a very positive attitude about life and have
>>>> accepted
>>>> the fact that ,YES, they are in fact totally blind and things are
>>>> different
>>>> but it doesn't have to be miserable to enhjoy their lives. You need to
>>>> get
>>>> help to learn how to think positive about your life and quit 
>>>> complaining
>>>> about all that  is around you. Once you embrace your blindness and it's
>>>> lifestyle, then my friend, I feel you will  start to smile more and
>>>> frown
>>>> a
>>>> lot less! Matt, Just  one man's observation of you since I have known
>>>> you,
>>>> and want you to try and understand that none of us need negativity in
>>>> our
>>>> lives unnecessarily. Please try and change your attitude not just for
>>>> yourself, but for all that is around and in contact with you! Your
>>>> friend
>>>> in
>>>> the cause, Kirk Harmon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Holly" <hbeanie at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nfbf-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:22 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfbf-l] Get Ready NFBF!!! National Convention
>>>> Orlandomanyyears
>>>> to come!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree , a positive attitude always helps. One may not like a 
>>>> situation
>>>> but
>>>> the only thing you have control over is the way you react to it.
>>>> Holly
>>>>
>>>> Holly
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 9, 2011 10:07 AM, "Denise Valkema" <valkemadenise at aol.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can take a brown car right out lobby entrance for $5 for everyone 
>>>> in
>>>> car
>>>> or ask a friend  who drives to take you to Publix.
>>>>
>>>> You can hook up with member or friend and get around together. You have
>>>> two
>>>> years to work on solutions. A positive attitude helps, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Denise
>>>> -- Sent from Denise's Palm Pre
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 9, 2011 12:11 AM, Sherri <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I thought the hotel was really ...
>>>>
>>>> From: "Matt Roberts" <blindbiker at yahoo.com>
>>>>
>>>> To: "NFB of Florida Internet Mailing List" <nf...
>>>> > On Jul 7, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Tara Prakash Tripathi wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >> What did you not like about this hotel?
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>> > I found the layout extremely confusing.  I spent 1 hour just 
>>>> trying
>>>> to
>>>> get
>>>>
>>>> > from the registration table to the elevators leading to my room.
>>>> When
>>>>
>>>> > you're trying to figure out where you are, where you want to go,
>>>> and
>>>> dodge
>>>>
>>>> > people it's difficult.  I have no problem traveling, but from what
>>>> i
>>>> can
>>>>
>>>> > tell there are no landmarks.  A week is not enough time to learn
>>>> this
>>>>
>>>> > hotel.  I'd need to spend a lot of time, and practice over and
>>>> over.
>>>> I'm
>>>>
>>>> > with some friends and one of them is sighted.  I do let him guide
>>>> me,
>>>> but
>>>>
>>>> > I should be able to pick up routes, since we always go the same
>>>> way.
>>>> NOt
>>>>
>>>> > this hotel!
>>>>
>>>> > The food is very expensive, and there aren't any eating
>>>> establishments
>>>>
>>>> > nearby.  If you want to not pay a lot of money for food, you need 
>>>> a
>>>> car.
>>>>
>>>> > I know Publix is across the street, but you have to get out to the
>>>> road.
>>>>
>>>> > With my physical disability, I would not risk trying to walk that
>>>> far,
>>>>
>>>> > especially when no sidewalks exist.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Matt Roberts blindbiker at yahoo.com
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
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