[nfbmi-talk] Cannon Calls for Armed Gaurds, Bullet Proof Drapes at MCB Board Meeting!

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Sat Apr 24 11:53:57 UTC 2010


Hi Fred,

I pasted that doc to the list in a response to J.JJ. It is a Word document 
full of tables. But clearly there were two $225 entries. So I'm assuming 
that was $225 per day.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at comcast.net>
To: "'NFB of Michigan List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Cannon Calls for Armed Gaurds,Bullet Proof Drapes 
at MCB Board Meeting!


>I did not put that doc up.  It is extremely difficult to read with a screen
> reader.  It is some kind of MS Word weird form.  I will gladly put it up,
> but will not promise results.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of J.J. Meddaugh
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:15 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Cannon Calls for Armed Gaurds,Bullet Proof 
> Drapes
> at MCB Board Meeting!
>
> The attachment to that message would have the costs for the guards, right?
> Were you sent this, or do we still not know the cost for the guards in
> March?
> Thanks, and awesome work to all involved.
>
> J.J. Meddaugh - ATGuys.com
> A premier Licensed Code Factory and KNFB Reader distributor
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at comcast.net>
> To: "'NFB of Michigan List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "'Geri Taeckens'" <geri.taeckens at isahealthfund.org>; "'Geri Taeckens'"
> <taeckens at eup.k12.mi.us>; "'Jo Ann Pilarski'" <pilarskij at charter.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:54 AM
> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Cannon Calls for Armed Gaurds,Bullet Proof Drapes at
> MCB Board Meeting!
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> This is more amazing than anything I imagined.  At the end of the last 
>> MCB
>> meeting I asked who needed guarding?  I asked who authorized the guards.
>> President Posont filed a Freedom of Information Act request.  We were
>> astonished to read the following paranoic exchange initiated by Pat
>> Cannon.
>> He is apparently a little nuts or something.  Can you believe blind 
>> people
>> are being told there is no money for needed services and Cannon is
>> investigating bullet proof drapes and armed gaurds?  Who should be 
>> afraid?
>> We have posted this on our web page www.nfbmi.org.  Please tell your
>> friends
>> to read this and decide who deserves to have a job, Christine, Dave, 
>> Blind
>> Vendors or Pat Cannon. UNBELIEVABLE!
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Robertson, Bob (DELEG)
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:44 AM
>>
>> To: Haynes, Carla (DELEG); Cannon, Patrick (DELEG)
>>
>> Subject: FW: Security at Commission meetings
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is the information on the possibilities of getting security and
>> bullet-proof draping at Commission meetings.
>>
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>>
>> Bob
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>> ----
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>> From: Cannon, Patrick D (DLEG)
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:50 PM
>>
>> To: Robertson, Bob (DLEG)
>>
>> Subject: RE: Security at Commission meetings
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Bob!  You did great work on gathering this information and I am
>> most
>> appreciative.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have forwarded this information on to Jo Ann Pilarski but asked that 
>> she
>> not share it far and wide and I will ask you to do the same as I do not
>> want
>> to create any sense of "alarm" on the subject of security.
>>
>>
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>> Thanks again,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Pat
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Robertson, Bob (DLEG)
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:02 PM
>>
>> To: Cannon, Patrick D (DLEG)
>>
>> Cc: Luzenski, Sue (DLEG)
>>
>> Subject: Security at Commission meetings
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Pat -
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> After talking with Steve Monet, I've got some info you can "take under
>> advisement" and share with Commissioners if you so wish. Steve is still
>> checking into the feasibility of bullet-proof draping for the conference
>> rooms tables. He wants us to take a digital photo of the tables in the
>> conference room upstairs and include their measurements so the company 
>> who
>> makes the draping can give us an estimate on the costs. I thought we 
>> could
>> do this when Susan gets back later this week.
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> As for other buildings, he said there are several in the area. He
>> mentioned
>> the State Library or Capitol Commons as two possibilities downtown. There
>> is
>> also the General Office Building at the Secondary Complex and the 
>> building
>> down on Pierpont where the Public Service Commission meets. All of these
>> facilities have someone at the front desk checking IDs and issuing 
>> visitor
>> passes. Steve pointed out that these so-called "security guards" do not
>> get
>> involved in apprehending or stopping bad guys. In other words, if someone
>> disrupts a meeting the folks at the front desk won't come running to the
>> rescue. We would need to call the Capitol Security for that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, Steve gave me the name of the guy in DMB, Jeff Pratt, we can
>> contact (241-4391) if we want to see about having our own security guard
>> at
>> a meeting in this building. We would need to tell him how often we'd need
>> someone, how many hours each time, the place and time, and then whether 
>> we
>> wanted an armed or unarmed guard. We would most likely have to pay for
>> those
>> services. We cannot just "borrow" a guard from another building.
>>
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>> I think this is a good 'first step' in gathering some info that you and
>> the
>> Board can use to decide a 'next step' so if you need more, let me know.
>>
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>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> If you wondered if it was really someone else who requested the security,
>> here is proof from the Department of Management and Budget that Cannon,
>> personally, did it.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Luzenski, Sue (DELEG)
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:24 PM
>>
>> To: Heibeck, Cheryl (DELEG)
>>
>> Subject: For FOIA request
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments: DMB-123 Blind Comm Victor.doc
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Pratt, Jeff
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:48 AM
>>
>> To: Luzenski, Sue (DELEG)
>>
>> Subject: Fwd: FW: Braille and Tactile Signs
>>
>>
>>
>> Sue,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.  Pat asked that I arrange for a security guard on Mar. 19 & 
>> 20.
>>
>> Attached is a DMB-123 that I need to have you complete and have signed by
>> your agency then returned to my attention.  I will also need a point of
>> contact and phone number for these two days as well as an understanding 
>> of
>> what the guard's duties will be.  I do know that on the 20th the guard
>> will
>> need to be posted at the entrance as the building will be locked.  It
>> would
>> be helpful if a list of those authorized to enter so that the guard knows
>> who is authorized.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
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