[nfbmi-talk] Fw: Follow up to your telephone call with MPAS

Sun Aug 8 13:53:29 UTC 2010

I second that emotion.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at comcast.net>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "'Jeanette Brown'" <jbrown at mpas.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: Follow up to your telephone call with MPAS


> Joe,
>
> I cannot believe this MPAS outfit.  If that isn't the most pathetic 
> response
> ever.  These people belong in jail.  They are taking money under false
> pretenses.  There is no, I repeat, No, protection or advocacy.  This is a
> perfect example of their cluelessness.  It is so appalling.  How can we 
> sue
> them for every penny they have ever received to allegedly serve blind 
> people
> I'm ready to go to court any place any time.  This is so sick.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:25 PM
> To: nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Fw: Follow up to your telephone call with MPAS
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> To: "CYNTHIA QUILLAN" <CQUILLA at mpas.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Follow up to your telephone call with MPAS
>
>
>> Just got back from Philly. I cannot independently fill out any print
>> questionaire, which goes to the point here. Moreover, Title II, subpart e
>> and Section 504 require "primary consideration". In other words the 
>> person
>
>> who has vision or hearing issues must be consulted about the most
>> effective format for themself.
>>
>> Now, in my instance all I generally as for is simply a plain text or Word
>> attachment or simply an enclosure to e-mail such as this one.
>>
>> Over the years MPAS has not understood these requirements fully in my
>> experience. And again this goes to the point of informed consent.
>>
>> And it goes to system compliance by MCB itself. One need only view the
>> question number two on MCB's own web site in its 2008 consumer
>> satisfaction survey to denote that many individuals never recieved one
>> item in accessable format. And these were perportedly successful 
>> closures!
>
>> Not one item! And that is from application through closure!
>>
>> Moreover, McB has failed to conduct its required survey of unsuccessful
>> closures. One can only imagine what that looks like!
>>
>> I filed OCR complaints while a VR client in New Hampshire over this very
>> issue and prevailed.
>>
>> Then upon my return to Michigan I ran into the same issue circa 
>> 2001-2002.
>
>> Mame I know the law and I know my rights. And I know when a scofflaw
>> agency like MCB violates them.
>>
>> Moreover as a former member of MCB's consumer involvement council this
>> issue of accessable format including access to ones own file by formal 
>> and
>
>> informal surveys was a consistent problem especially in the Eastern part
>> of this state.
>>
>> I'm leaving to the side physical access issues of which I've filed
>> numerous complaints on their own facilities. But, Pat Cannon the former
>> chair of the US Access Board and State ADA coordinator has and continues
>> to violate those too. In fact in every office building including the HQ
>> (Victor Office Building) raised character and Braille signage is still
>> non-compliant. It doesn't conform to ADAAG Sections 4.1, 4.2, 4.3.
>>
>> As they have been informed of obligations in both regards to physical
>> access (also required under Title I of the Rehab Act) and obligations to
>> remit accessable information to all consumers based upon primary
>> consideration (and affirmativelty and in a timely manner) for more than
>> the decade I've been back in Michigan Ithis constitutes not only
>> deliberate indifference to the law but manifestly intentional
>> discriminatikon which must be construed to have been conducted with 
>> malice
>
>> of forethought.
>>
>> These are only the tip of the iceberg in a demand for systemic relief.
>>
>>
>> Finally, without pro forma information in alternate formats in a timely
>> manner there is no and I repeat NO informed consent.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "CYNTHIA QUILLAN" <CQUILLA at mpas.org>
>> To: <joeharcz at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:36 AM
>> Subject: Follow up to your telephone call with MPAS
>>
>>
>>> The information contained in this message is privileged or confidential
>>> information intended only for the use of the individual or entity
>>> named
>>> above.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient,
>>> you
>>> are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of
>>> this communications neither allowed nor intended.  If you have
>>> received
>>> this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by
>>> telephone at 800.288.5923.  Thank you.
>>>
>>> Dear Mr. Harcz:
>>>
>>> Per our conversation, on June 24, 2010, I did consult with the Client
>>> Assistance Program (CAP) Director Jeanette Brown about your concerns
>>> about the CAP being in an assessable format for the blind and about
>>> Michigan Commission for the Blind (MCB) consumers being unaware of CAP
>>> services.  Ms. Brown responded with the comment that all of our agency
>>> brochures are available in assessable format. She also stated that the
>>> MCB is required to tell customers about CAP and that the she will
>>> follow
>>> up on this issue with MCB. She appreciated you bringing this MCB
>>> concern
>>> to her attention.
>>>
>>> I will send you via the postal service Braille and large print written
>>> brochures on CAP and one entitled Who We Are What We Do.  I mentioned
>>> that I would send information on our agency priorities.  Unfortunately
>>> this information is in the process of being updated and is unavailable.
>>>
>>> I can send you an agency questionnaire which helps the agency
>>> reevaluate
>>> future agency priorities. If interested in a Braille or large print
>>> questionnaire, please let me know as I will need to put in a request
>>> for
>>> this. I hope this information is useful.
>>>
>>> At this time, I am closing my file on this matter.  I would appreciate
>>> it if you would fill out the enclosed evaluation and return it to us.
>>> Your comments help us provide quality services to our callers.  Thank
>>> you for calling Michigan Protection and Advocacy Service, Inc.  Please
>>> call again any time you have questions or concerns about the rights of
>>> people with disabilities.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>> I &R Advocate
>>>
>>
>
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