[nfbmi-talk] robin hill v mcb

Tue Mar 29 21:14:12 UTC 2011

Thanks. And of course the courts or any other state entity should provide 
the same information in fully accessible manner as they supply to the 
general public under the ADA.

But, thanks as always for the resource.

Joe
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From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
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> yes it would work with that. They should still provide an out-of-the-box 
> accessible solution IMHO, but at least this is doable. There are quite a 
> few OCR to text services online. Some free, some not.
>
> J.J. Meddaugh - A T Guys
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> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:19 PM
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>
>> Does that include the image based documents like this one and hundreds of 
>> other ones on the Michigan.gov web sites?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Joe
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
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>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 4:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] robin hill v mcb
>>
>>
>>> There's free websites, such as www.ocrterminal.com
>>> that could convert PDFs to text.
>>>
>>> J.J. Meddaugh - A T Guys
>>> Your source for Code Factory, the iBill, KNFB Reader, Sendero GPS, audio 
>>> games, braillers, and more!
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
>>> To: <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:29 PM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] robin hill v mcb
>>>
>>>
>>>> All here is the public link to the Third Circuit Court of appeals case 
>>>> against MCB. unfortunately the court order is inaccessible to me as it 
>>>> is an image based pdf file. This is a substantial violation of the 
>>>> Americans with Disabilities Act (Title II) which governs all entities 
>>>> of State and local government including the right at the same time and 
>>>> place to receive fully accessible information at the same availability 
>>>> as the general public. Not to worry I'm certain that the State of 
>>>> Michigan ADA coordinator Patrick D. Cannon who was also a member of the 
>>>> United States Access Board's Courthouse Advisory committee is hot on 
>>>> this issue.
>>>>
>>>> I think not since he makes it a federal case to get accessible draft 
>>>> meeting minutes, his agency routinely denies customers access in 
>>>> alternate formats to their own records including IPEs, and the agency 
>>>> cannot even seem to supply accessible materials to BEP operators in 
>>>> their training classes.
>>>>
>>>> Regardless, this is public domain information and if anyone has the 
>>>> Open Book or other conversion tools I would be grateful if they would 
>>>> go to the link and the pdf order and convert it for me, and indeed the 
>>>> entire list.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> Attachment:
>>>> Link to:
>>>>
>>>> http://coa.courts.mi.gov/resources/asp/viewdocket.asp?casenumber=303034&fparties=&inqtype=public&yr=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Docket No.: 303034
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MICHIGAN COURT OF APPEALS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> COA Case Number: 303034
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ROBIN HILL V COMMISSION FOR THE BLIND
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Table with 6 columns and 6 rows
>>>>
>>>> 1
>>>>
>>>> HILL ROBIN
>>>>
>>>> PL-AE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RET
>>>>
>>>> (58657) MACK RICHARD G JR
>>>>
>>>> 600 WEST LAFAYETTE BLVD
>>>>
>>>> 4TH FLOOR
>>>>
>>>> DETROIT  MI 48226
>>>>
>>>> 313-964-4454
>>>>
>>>> 2
>>>>
>>>> CRUELL PAMELA
>>>>
>>>> PL-AE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SAM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3
>>>>
>>>> KELLY JACOLE
>>>>
>>>> PL-AE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SAM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4
>>>>
>>>> PEGEUS DEONNE
>>>>
>>>> PL-AE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SAM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5
>>>>
>>>> TURNER LESLIE
>>>>
>>>> PL-AE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SAM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 6
>>>>
>>>> COMMISSION FOR THE BLIND
>>>>
>>>> DF-AT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AG
>>>>
>>>> (67482) GROSSI CHRISTINA M
>>>>
>>>> 525 W OTTAWA ST FLOOR 5
>>>>
>>>> PO BOX 30736
>>>>
>>>> LANSING  MI 48909
>>>>
>>>> 517-373-6434
>>>>
>>>> table end
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Status: Case Concluded; File Open
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 01
>>>>
>>>> Case Flags: Emergency
>>>>
>>>> Remarks: trial 3/21/11
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Table with 5 columns and 21 rows
>>>>
>>>> 03/16/2011
>>>>
>>>> 1
>>>>
>>>> App For Leave to Appeal - Civil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Proof Of Service Date: 3/16/2011
>>>>
>>>> Answer Due: 3/18/2011
>>>>
>>>> Fee Code: STATE
>>>>
>>>> Attorney:67482 - GROSSI CHRISTINA M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 03/07/2011
>>>>
>>>> 2
>>>>
>>>> Order Appealed From
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: WAYNE CIRCUIT COURT
>>>>
>>>> Case Number: 09-001410-CD
>>>>
>>>> Trial Court Judge: 19891 SAPALA MICHAEL F
>>>>
>>>> Nature of Case:
>>>>
>>>>     Summary Disposition - Partial
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 03/16/2011
>>>>
>>>> 4
>>>>
>>>> Telephone Contact
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For Party: 6 COMMISSION FOR THE BLIND DF-AT
>>>>
>>>> Attorney: 67482 - GROSSI CHRISTINA M
>>>>
>>>> Comments: Ann Sherman called;she said to use Christina Grossi as filing 
>>>> aty;Sherman just efiled it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 03/16/2011
>>>>
>>>> 5
>>>>
>>>> Motion: Stay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Proof Of Service Date: 3/16/2011
>>>>
>>>> Filed By Attorney: 67482 - GROSSI CHRISTINA M
>>>>
>>>> For Party: 6 COMMISSION FOR THE BLIND DF-AT
>>>>
>>>> Fee Code: STATE
>>>>
>>>> Immediate Consideration: Y
>>>>
>>>> Answer Due: 3/18/2011
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 03/16/2011
>>>>
>>>> 6
>>>>
>>>> Motion: Waive MCR 7.209 re Trans &/or Orders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Proof Of Service Date: 3/16/2011
>>>>
>>>> Filed By Attorney: 67482 - GROSSI CHRISTINA M
>>>>
>>>> For Party: 6 COMMISSION FOR THE BLIND DF-AT
>>>>
>>>> Fee Code: STATE
>>>>
>>>> Answer Due: 3/18/2011
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 03/17/2011
>>>>
>>>> 7
>>>>
>>>> Telephone Contact
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For Party: 1 HILL ROBIN PL-AE
>>>>
>>>> Attorney: 58657 - MACK RICHARD G JR
>>>>
>>>> Comments: JMI left vmail for aty Mack;answer due 3/18 by 10am in 
>>>> Detroit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 03/17/2011
>>>>
>>>> 9
>>>>
>>>> Submitted On Special Motion Docket
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Event: 1 App For Leave to Appeal - Civil
>>>>
>>>> Event: 5 Stay
>>>>
>>>> Event: 6 Waive MCR 7.209 re Trans &/or Orders
>>>>
>>>> District: D Item #: 1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 03/18/2011
>>>>
>>>> 10
>>>>
>>>> Answer - Motion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Proof Of Service Date: 3/18/2011
>>>>
>>>> Event No: 5 Stay
>>>>
>>>> For Party: 1 HILL ROBIN PL-AE
>>>>
>>>> Filed By Attorney: 58657 - MACK RICHARD G JR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 03/18/2011
>>>>
>>>> 12
>>>>
>>>> Order: Application - Deny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Click here
>>>>
>>>> to view document in PDF format.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Event: 1 App For Leave to Appeal - Civil
>>>>
>>>> Event: 5 Stay
>>>>
>>>> Event: 6 Waive MCR 7.209 re Trans &/or Orders
>>>>
>>>> Panel: KFK,CMM,KFH
>>>>
>>>> Immediate Consideration Granted
>>>>
>>>> Attorney: 67482 - GROSSI CHRISTINA M
>>>>
>>>> Comments: GRANT mtn to waive the stay requirements of MCR 7.209;DENY 
>>>> mtn for stay
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 03/18/2011
>>>>
>>>> 13
>>>>
>>>> Verbal Order To Parties-Phone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> table end
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Case Listing Complete
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