[nfbmi-talk] foia ada 504 and oma request
Linda Bloodsaw
lbloodsaw2018 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 17 22:01:37 UTC 2012
Matt, I'll write you off list. Thanks.
On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:14 PM, "Matt Sievert" <matt.sievert at gmail.com> wrote:
> Group,
>
> It has been interesting, but I am unsubscribing from this list.
>
> I wish you all the best in your endeavors.
>
> Keep in mind there is a legally blind citizen of michigan doing well earning a livable wage and willing to advise any other visually impaired person who seeks advice.
>
> It is not an easy road, but it can be traversed with decent results.
>
> Matt Sievert
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> Sender: nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:05:22
> To: Joe Sontag<suncat0 at gmail.com>; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List<nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Reply-To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] foia ada 504 and oma request
>
> The offical document sir is thematter at issue here and, by the way are all
> the sup and nuts and such that went in tothe original EO.
>
> We are not children of a lessor god here! We are supposed to be citizens
> endowed at a very minimum of the fundamental right to at least know of
> governmental activity at the first instance. Anything less is an
> abomonitation to the democratic process.
>
> I know you Mr. sontag thinks around the sad lines that divides the right and
> left.
>
> Man, we can't even play a football game without regulated rules yet this
> government here thinks it can make it up as it goes along when it comes to
> those who are blind.
>
> What a freaking crokc against fundamental democracy that is.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Sontag" <suncat0 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>;
> "Patrick Cannon MCB Dir." <cannonp at MICHIGAN.GOV>
> Cc: "Robin Jones" <guiness at uic.edu>; "Carla Haynes" <haynesc at michigan.gov>;
> "lydia Schuck MCB Comm." <laschuck at juno.com>; "MARK CODY" <MCODY at mpas.org>;
> "Joe Sibley MCBVI Pres." <joe.sibley at comcast.net>; "Farmer,Mel (DELEG)"
> <farmerm at michigan.gov>; "Richard Bernstein Esq"
> <rbernstein at sambernstein.com>; "James Chaney EOC"
> <resolutioncomm at sbcglobal.net>; "Richard Clay Advocates f/t Blind"
> <savingoursonsrc at yahoo.com>; "Hazell Brooks" <jiggyzee at att.net>; "John Scott
> MCB Comm." <jcscot at sbcglobal.net>; <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Elmer Cerano
> MPAS" <ECERANO at mpas.org>; "Sally Conway USDOJ" <sally.conway at usdoj.gov>;
> "OCR Cleveland Office" <Ocr.cleveland at ed.gov>; "Geri Taeckens"
> <geri.taeckens at isahealthfund.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] foia ada 504 and oma request
>
>
> And to think that all I was saying was that the "recall" thing as applied to
> e-mail sent outside of a particular system is not solikely to succeed. Love
> to see what was in it. I'll do my judging when that happens or when the
> official document leaks out.
>
> Joe S
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> To: "Patrick Cannon MCB Dir." <cannonp at MICHIGAN.GOV>
> Cc: "Geri Taeckens" <geri.taeckens at isahealthfund.org>; "Carla Haynes"
> <haynesc at michigan.gov>; "lydia Schuck MCB Comm." <laschuck at juno.com>; "MARK
> CODY" <MCODY at mpas.org>; "Sally Conway USDOJ" <sally.conway at usdoj.gov>;
> "Farmer,Mel (DELEG)" <farmerm at michigan.gov>; "Richard Bernstein Esq"
> <rbernstein at sambernstein.com>; "James Chaney EOC"
> <resolutioncomm at sbcglobal.net>; "OCR Cleveland Office"
> <Ocr.cleveland at ed.gov>; "Hazell Brooks" <jiggyzee at att.net>;
> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>; "Robin Jones" <guiness at uic.edu>; "Elmer Cerano
> MPAS" <ECERANO at mpas.org>; "Joe Sibley MCBVI Pres." <joe.sibley at comcast.net>;
> "Richard Clay Advocates f/t Blind" <savingoursonsrc at yahoo.com>; "John Scott
> MCB Comm." <jcscot at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:16
> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] foia ada 504 and oma request
>
>
> April 17 2012 FOIA
>
>
>
> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>
> 1365 E. Mt. Morris Rd.
>
> Mt. Morris, MI 48458
>
> 810-516-5262
>
> E-mail: joeharcz at comcast.net
>
>
>
> Re: FOIA/ADA/504 Request for Timely Information
>
>
>
> To:
>
>
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> Carla Haynes, Michigan Commission for the Blind FOIA
>
> Cc: Melvin Farmer, LARA FOIA
>
> Cc: Patrick D. Cannon
>
> Michigan Commission for the Blind Director
>
>
>
> (Via E-mail)
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I’m requesting under the Michigan Freedom of Information Act the mass E-mail
> attachment referenced in the following public domain submission to several
> public officials posted by Mr. Posont to the NFB of Michigan list serve as
> follows:
>
>
>
> “----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Cannon, Patrick (LARA)" <
>
> cannonp at michigan.gov>
>
>
>
> To: "MCB Staff" <
>
> MCBStaff at michigan.gov>
>
>
>
> Cc: "Zimmer, Mike (LARA)" <
>
> zimmerm at michigan.gov>
>
> ; "'John Scott'" <
>
> jcscot at sbcglobal.net>
>
> ; "'Larry Posont'"
>
> <
>
> president.nfb.mi at gmail.com>
>
> ; "'Lydia Schuck'" <
>
> laschuck at juno.com>
>
> ; "Posont, Larry (LARA)" <
>
> PosontL at michigan.gov>
>
> ; "Schuck, Lydia
>
> (LARA)" <
>
> SchuckL1 at michigan.gov>
>
> ; "Scott, John (LARA)" <
>
> ScottJ11 at michigan.gov>
>
>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:34 AM
>
> Subject: Recall: Governor Snyder to Issue New Executive Order Next Week
>
>
>
> Cannon, Patrick (LARA) would like to recall the message, "Governor Snyder to
> Issue New Executive Order Next Week". =
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org
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> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbmi-talk_nfbnet.org”
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>
>
> Precisely what is the “message” Mr. Cannon wished and apparently re-called
> somehow?
>
>
>
> This was a most public correspondence about most public actions and we the
> public have the right to know including we who are blind in a timely manner
> and effective format. Since this was sent out on Cannon’s own state owned
> computer it is subject to FOIA and since it was digital in the first
> instance (my most effective format) I am requesting this now. Not yesterday
> and not with stalling, and not with an abuse of the ADA’s or 504’s “undue
> hardship” provisions for there are clearly no hardships of this
> multi-million, federally funded agency at play here folks!
>
>
>
> In addition as it is clear that there will be and are changes to the
> Executive Order 2012—2 involved here I wish to know precisely what the
> contents of the new Executive Order will be so that I, a citizen of this
> state and this Republic can decide for himself if they are in accordance
> with applicable state and federal laws..
>
>
>
> Oh if you want to stall around this issue then think of the damages re:
> Detroit Free Press v. City of Detroit amongst others.
>
>
>
> In other words as an editorial comment I am sick to death personally of all
> the government secrecy going on in this state and it doesn’t go just to this
> issue, but regardless is germane to it nonetheless.
>
>
>
> In this case we have substantial violations of the Americans with
> Disabilities Act of 1990, the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 as amended, the
> Michigan Open Meetings Act, the Michigan Freedom of Information Act and
> Public Act 260 going on like they are violations on steroids.
>
>
>
> This must end. It must end now.
>
>
>
> I am willing, able and will sue if need be for it all to end too!
>
>
>
> So give this information up!
>
>
>
> It is time for secret government in Michigan and secrecy relative to
> federally funded programs for the blind and others with other disabilities
> to end as well.
>
>
>
>
>
> It is as simple as that!
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr.
>
>
>
> Cc: Michigan Protection and Advocacy Services, Inc.
>
> Cc: NFB MI
>
> Cc: MCBVI
>
> Cc:several media outlets
>
> Cc: several MRC members
>
> Cc: RSA
>
> Cc: several list serves and blogs
>
> Cc: Governor Richard Snyder
>
> Cc: several Attorneys at Law
>
> Cc: United States Department of Justice, Civil rights Division
>
> Cc: United States Department of education, Office of Civil rights
>
>
>
>
>
> .
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