[nfbmi-talk] all in violation

[joe harcz Comcast]

It is not the web sites at issue and it is not pdf per se, but rather image 
based pdf files!

By the way I send converted ones often to this list when relevent because 
many including our state president doesn't have the technology training and 
a t to access and convert even accessible pdf files.

Giving a person an image based pdf is no different than a state agency 
giving a person a printed page and then telling him/her to get a reader or 
to purchase costly ocr vconversion tools.

By the way some of us simply cannot afford all the latest and greatest.

And government documents must be made accessible to all at the first 
instance wand with no muss and no fuss.

Joe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] all in violation


> Yes. But you are often asserting that websites are inaccessible  without 
> using the proper tools. You seem to have a vendetta against PDF files for 
> some reason. Believe me, I'm no fan of the format, but it is a means to 
> present accessible information when used correctly.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> J.J. Meddaugh
> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] all in violation
>
>
>> Actually I click on them and then used my adobe accessability check and 
>> told me it was an image and "appeared to contain no text"...
>>
>> I did not check out each and every document but november and october were 
>> enough...
>>
>> Moreover, it happenns all the time on various sites.
>>
>> Bottom line is that these documents are required to be accessible right 
>> out of the box and not just the web sites.
>>
>> Joe
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Matt McCubbin" <mgoalball at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] all in violation
>>
>>
>>> Joe,
>>> Can you provide some examples? I clicked on several of the links on that 
>>> page, and they were accessible with my screen-reading software.
>>> One would infer from your post that each and every document on 
>>> Michigan's state budget website is inaccessible. However, this simply 
>>> isn't the case.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Matt
>>> On 1/31/2012 7:59 PM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:
>>>> Here's a massive issue facing the blind in Michigan each and every 
>>>> document on the State Budget office web site is an image based pdf file 
>>>> right here at:
>>>>
>>>> http://apps.michigan.gov/MiTransparency/Category
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