[nfbmi-talk] Proposed Mailing List Policy

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Sat Feb 1 04:31:14 UTC 2014


Say Terry could you drop me a link to that page?

I just wasn't getting on it.

I do have an older browser  but can't do anything about that since JFW 6.2 
is all I have.

Anyway I'll try again.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Proposed Mailing List Policy


> As for the website and resolution content, I was on the NFBMI website 
> twice
> earlier today, specifically at the resolutions page, and I just confirmed
> that content is readily available, and all 3 visits to the resolutions 
> page
> were readily available, so error 401 messages are not NFBMI website
> problems, but rather must originate with the browser or internet access
> issue of individual computers..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
> harcz Comcast
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 3:19 PM
> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Proposed Mailing List Policy
>
> Or perhaps post them to a link on our web site, and maybe upload them to 
> say
>
> "drop box"?
>
> By the way I've been having some 401 page not found issues with the NFB MI
> web site today?
>
> And can't seem to get to among other things our state resolutions.
>
> Anyone have a working link to that page?
>
> Best,
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Robinson" <drob1946 at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Proposed Mailing List Policy
>
>
>> Dear Joe,
>>
>>   I would agree with you. I would love to see the OMA documents as well. 
>> I
>
>> would think , as a board member, our officers would make them available 
>> to
>
>> us as a matter of course.
>>
>> Dave
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net>
>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Proposed Mailing List Policy
>>
>>
>>> P.S.
>>>
>>> And no one including myself says that anyone should be limited in any
>>> manner whatsoever including issues related to blindness or, of course 
>>> NFB
>
>>> MI actions, etc.
>>>
>>> In other words Frd, and J.J. go ahead and post.
>>>
>>> Who is stopping you from posting on other issues>?
>>>
>>> I for one would like to see for example the thousands of records which
>>> cost our affiliate thousands of dollars related to our OMA suit a few
>>> years back.
>>>
>>> Where are they Fred?
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
>>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Proposed Mailing List Policy
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello J.J.,
>>>>
>>>> I do agree that the excessive and redundant volume of FOIA requests and
>>>> then
>>>> the resulting correspondences does little to benefit the purpose of 
>>>> this
>>>> list.  The knowledge of the need for information and the information
>>>> about
>>>> the lack of responsiveness is valuable information but can simply be
>>>> summarized by a quick note to the list that such and such documents are
>>>> supposed to be available and are not.  An analysis of the state of
>>>> access
>>>> relative to a building or report can also be useful, but the pages and
>>>> pages
>>>> of repetitious material detracts from the appropriate communication
>>>> among
>>>> members about the matters of this organization and this list.  Anyone
>>>> may
>>>> start their own list to publicize their issue.  This list belongs to us
>>>> and
>>>> we have the right to determine the content of the list.  I am not
>>>> suggesting
>>>> we limit the views of any member, only the kind of content we publish.
>>>> For
>>>> that matter, we could start a list for governmental communications 
>>>> where
>>>> such things could be published and discussed.  I would not oppose such 
>>>> a
>>>> list.  I feel the excessive amount of governmental communications and
>>>> complaints posted here have pretty much eliminated any ongoing
>>>> conversations
>>>> among our members.
>>>>
>>>> We have a board meeting coming up.  This would be a good place for such
>>>> a
>>>> proposal.  A discussion among our members, there, would determine our
>>>> policy
>>>> in an appropriate and democratic way.
>>>>
>>>> Good idea, J.J..
>>>>
>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> joe
>>>> harcz Comcast
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:45 PM
>>>> To: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Proposed Mailing List Policy
>>>>
>>>> Access is a civil right!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <jj at bestmidi.com>
>>>> To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:41 PM
>>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Proposed Mailing List Policy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to propose a list policy that we do not allow official
>>>>> government
>>>>
>>>>> business, FOIA requests, etc. to be sent and then copied or forwarded
>>>>> to
>>>>> this list. In addition to the potential overload of email it creates,
>>>>> it
>>>>> has the possibility  of giving the impression that the NFB of Michigan
>>>>> is
>>>>> a party to the request where it was not. This is potentially damaging
>>>>> to
>>>>> our reputation and may hinder the progress that we are trying to make.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> J.J.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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