[nfbmi-talk] Sounds like the State of Michigan in every respect

Thu May 1 01:54:19 UTC 2014

Joe,

 I am using my iPhone, but really why are many saying they cannot access things and personally you do not know what issues are hindering me from good spelling. (I'm not disclosing it either) You assumed what tools I'm correctly using, changes and point there are too many assumptions. Your reply in disrespect ways tells the same thing when relied to BSBPS in such way. My intent of these questions is not to question your writing, but with I could maybe look some these issues. I meant that so see issue and not most screen readers that people use the spelling software on. It tends to Mac programs with word processing, Microsoft Word and  processing programs with your assumptions about me personally and I've not made any of I forged you think nice if others care and I do. Though, the response you me, I can decide no and frankly if it was not BSBP staff members job to kind, I'd be going to truthful --I think your BITTING me and you have and freakily I say "no". I ask three things and somehow those do not happen, 
1. Please stop or at reporting the FOIA
2. I never said our writing had to be perfect, I said work on it and because I'm not perfect nor are we all did say no typos, no mistakes--we learn from mistakes 
3. I asked for people to stop assuming berceuse I think help everyone on list. 
4. This should be a given, but can assume or know my intent is not bit, although I not sure I've conveyed that well. I question not be a pain, but to get clarification, if given I decide to not reply means leaving the subject alone or if not get I may ask because its better. 

I've been trying to say by showing that I think as list if less questions are asked then it means it understood. I've been trying ask questions, no has answer just know consider hitting those points next write. For most, I know hard to write well and I'm not keep asking questions if not a be adult to anyone list.

Joe, you can accept or decline my offer to look into screen issue, but know that if direct question ask, I've seen no response to what I've been writing, but I'm backing off I trust if there something ask, but please consider this message and last time I'm writing it.

With respect, 
Nadia 

On Apr 30, f2014, at 9:03 PM, "joe harcz Comcast" <joeharcz at comcast.net> wrote:

Say, Nadia why don't you send this out to the folks suing the GSA. It is so well written and oh so profound. You've outdone yourself tonight.

By the way did you also note that most screen readers and programs have spell checkers?

Anyway job well done on this critique.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Nadia Cioffi" <nadiaacioffi at gmail.com>
To: <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>; "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Sounds like the State of Michigan in every respect

> Did we brush up screener commends, many blind people use the up and down arrow keys with JAWS I highly recommend going to the website and downloading the JAWS. Manual, If this an issue it's not compliance, but needing to learn the tools. I'd consider people's technical ability before compliance. Odds are less sections are likry be this way, but I'd like headings with links on the state website and I've not run into issues. I think using the GUI list could save some time and maybe find issues, There could indeed be issues, but logically it be should be shown by more one person/professes. Much like Michigan website, I this clim is veg. What dominion, what page, what cannot be accessed, what screw reader and has more then person tried? As far I know clim with no grounding, support or proof and turns it statement based on what, your experience. You I think should back much, unless this has nothing to stand on. Should is my thought it helps credibility and support the reader by shoring them your proof and gives the reader a chance to look what saying, do independent research and agree or disagree. Unless the point is to convince the reader your correct, either way the reason I see for writing this make. A clim, I'm I right or what is it? Please show it reader so they Heve less questions, unless you want your readers to assume? Please consider this when writing, I will not ask these questions you should as writer address them for me.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Nadia
> 
> On Apr 30,rhe 2014at 8:14 PM, "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Lawsuit Says GSA Discriminates Against Blind Contractors By Joseph Marks
> April 24, 2014 NEXTGOV
> 
> 
> 
> A group of blind federal contractors filed a lawsuit against the General
> Services Administration this week over a contractor website they say shuts
> out the visually impaired.
> 
> 
> 
> The System for Award Management website, SAM.gov, contains numerous buttons,
> checkboxes, drop-down menus and "mouseovers" that federal contractors must
> navigate each year in order to keep their contractor status current. Those
> bells and whistles make it difficult or impossible for screen reading
> software that blind people use to navigate the Internet to decode the site,
> the suit claims.
> 
> 
> 
> GSA phone-in help desk employees are also not sufficiently trained in
> disability issues, the suit claims, making it even more difficult for blind
> contractors to complete their registrations.
> 
> 
> 
> The suit was filed as a class action by the American Council for the Blind
> and the Washington Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights and Urban Affairs in
> the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. The groups claim GSA
> violated Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, which, among other things,
> bars discrimination against federal contractors and grantees based solely on
> a disability.
> 
> 
> 
> There are three named plaintiffs who are helping to pursue the lawsuit.
> They're all contractors who had difficulty registering or re-registering on
> SAM.gov. Eventually two of the three had to reveal personal information,
> such as usernames and Social Security numbers, to either friends or GSA help
> desk employees in order to complete their registrations.
> 
> 
> 
> "It would be one thing if [the Environmental Protection Agency's] website
> wasn't compliant with screen reader software," Matthew Handley, an attorney
> for the plaintiffs, told Nextgov. "But this is all the more troubling
> because this is the agency that's supposed to be policing all the other
> agency websites and it doesn't appear to be policing its own websites."
> 
> 
> 
> GSA had not responded by 5 p.m. Thursday to Nextgov emails and phone calls
> seeking comment.
> 
> 
> 
> GSA manages a large portion of civilian federal contracting for other
> government agencies and publishes best practices guides for federal digital
> technology. The American Council for the Blind spent about a year urging GSA
> to make SAM.gov accessible, Handley said. When those changes weren't
> sufficient, he said, they filed suit.
> 
> 
> 
> "We'd just sort of reached a dead end with them and decided we didn't have
> any way to push this along without resorting to the court system," he said.
> 
> 
> 
> The council hasn't done a full investigation but suspects there may be
> accessibility issues with other federal contracting websites such as the
> Federal Business Opportunities site, FBO.gov, Handley said. The
> organizations hope that drawing attention to SAM.gov's accessibility issues
> will press GSA and other agencies to fix other websites, he said.
> 
> 
> 
> The groups are asking a federal judge to order GSA to make SAM.gov
> accessible and to reimburse their attorneys' fees. The plaintiffs cannot
> seek damages under the statute.
> 
> 
> 
> Source:
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> 
> http://cdn.nextgov.com/nextgov/interstitial.html?v=2.1.1
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