[nfbmi-talk] Followup on Michigan Flyer and MetroAirportFW: 7New, Eco-Friendly Buses Give You an Even Sweeter Ride

Joe Sontag suncat0 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 20 14:48:15 UTC 2014


Couldn't agree with you more, Fred. Very well done.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Wurtzel via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'joe harcz Comcast'" <joeharcz at comcast.net>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:14
Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Followup on Michigan Flyer and MetroAirportFW: 7New, Eco-Friendly Buses Give You an Even Sweeter Ride


: Hello,
: 
: Well, I think that incrementalism is a valid point of view.  Having a
: settlement which is better , but less than perfect presumably leaves us
: better off.  Certainly, Karla took action and things are better than they
: would have been, otherwise.  This seems like a case of perfection blocking
: progress.  Of course, I, along with most everyone else on this side of the
: issue would have preferred a return to the status quo.  Unless, the NFB of
: Michigan is willing to go back to court it is highly unlikely that such a
: return will happen.  Wishing for another outcome will not accomplish
: anything.  For my part, I am happy that there is a warm place to wait, a way
: to contact Prospect and a plan to make the process work reasonably well.  I
: do not think this is a perfect solution, but I am happy that someone was
: willing to take action, instead of simply complaining, and that the
: situation is better than it would have been.
: 
: So,  what do you think we need to do to work to make the bus stop better?
: How much are we willing to spend from our treasury to fight this?  For my
: part, if we decide to fight more, I will support the effort, but I am
: unwilling to criticize Karla for her good work and willingness to do
: something when none of us did a thing except vote on a resolution.  We need
: to stop talking about problems and do something.  Otherwise, we should be
: grateful to those who are willing to take action which is in our interest.
: 
: Warmest Regards,
: 
: Fred
: 
: -----Original Message-----
: From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
: harcz Comcast via nfbmi-talk
: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 8:41 AM
: To: David Robinson; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
: Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Followup on Michigan Flyer and Metro AirportFW:
: 7New, Eco-Friendly Buses Give You an Even Sweeter Ride
: 
: Agreed. And for those who have not read the resolution here it is:
: RESOLUTION 2014-02 Michigan Flyer and SMART Bus Access to Airport
: 
: 
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, the Michigan Flyer, Air Ride and Smart bus services offer a
: convenient and affordable means of traveling to the Detroit Metropolitan
: Airport (DTW); and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, many blind people use public transportation including the Michigan
: Flyer, Air Ride and SMART to travel to and from the McNamara Terminal of
: Detroit Metropolitan Airport; and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, there is a 70% unemployment rate among blind people who wish to
: work, making affordable transportation an extremely important part of life
: activities; and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, the Airport Board has decided to move the Bus Stop for these
: services to another location , called the Ground Transportation Center,which
: is inadequate, dangerous and inconvenient to persons using public
: transportation to travel to the McNamara Terminal; and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, until recently, the busses have dropped passengers at an accessible
: stop within 50 feet of the entrance to the terminal with no safety or other
: negative consequences for over 2 years; and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, the Ground Transportation Center (GTC) severely limits a disabled
: person's access to and communication with Prospect Airport Services, since
: Prospect is located inside the McNamara Terminal near the former bus stop,,
: a service used by disabled persons to assist them in getting around at the
: Airport, thus leaving  persons needing this assistance without access
: 
: to reasonable accommodations when getting off the bus; and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, the new location at the GTC is approximately 200 yards from the
: nearest
: 
: indoor area of the airport, as opposed to 50 feet in the McNamara Terminal
: at
: 
: the former location, thus forcing people to either wait outside for their
: bus or
: 
: run quickly once it arrives. Disabled persons, especially those with
: mobility
: 
: limitations, who cannot "run" quickly enough are thus forced to wait
: outside,
: 
: even in harsh weather conditions; and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, when all three unloading spots at the new stop are occupied,
: passengers loading and unloading from a bus in the middle lane are forced to
: exit between vehicles and cross over
: 
: a lane of traffic, an action which could result in severe bodily harm and/or
: 
: death; and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, the change in bus stops conflicts with the Americans With
: Disabilities law by limiting access to the terminal by persons with
: disabilities; and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, the Ground Transportation Center does not have a service dog relief
: area unlike the former stop which has dog relief facilities; and,
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, passengers traveling from the McNamara Terminal to the new transit 
: pickup
: 
: location outside of the GTC must either choose to travel directly out "side
: 
: doors" that exit to active lanes of traffic, or go through a revolving door,
: 
: which
: 
: when often broken is inaccessible to those with mobility impairments. To 
: wit,
: 
: the Detroit Free Press in 2009 reported that the door had broken 33 times 
: from
: 
: April 1, 2008 to March 22, 2009; and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, Michigan Governor Rick Snyder communicated his support in 
: "maintaining the
: 
: integrity of the previous stop locations" in a letter to Mr. Tom Naughton, 
: CEO of the
: 
: Wayne County Airport Authority and to Mr. Michael Ford, CEO of the Ann Arbor
: 
: Area Transportation Authority dated June 11, 2014; and
: 
: 
: 
: WHEREAS, the change of bus stop only effects those using public 
: transportation and drastically reduces the convenience and accessibility for
: 
: these passengers, this change unreasonably and discriminatorily targets 
: persons who use public transportation to travel to and from the airport by 
: making the environment hostile and unwelcoming to visitors to our state who 
: use these services to reach the many attractions and services including 
: colleges, industries, residences, tourist attractions and the vast natural 
: and commercial resources of the state of Michigan:  Now, therefore,
: 
: 
: 
: BE IT RESOLVED in convention assembled this 12th day of October, 2014, in 
: the city of Flint, Michigan that this organization condemns and deplores the
: 
: action of the Wayne county Airport Authority in discriminating against users
: 
: of public transportation, especially those with disabilities by relocating 
: bus drop off points used by the Michigan Flyer, Air Ride and SMART; and
: 
: 
: 
: BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED; that this organization call upon the Airport 
: Authority to immediately and permanently reverse its decision to move the 
: Bus Stop for the Michigan Flyer, Air Ride and Smart busses to the Ground 
: Transportation Center and return it to  its former location at the entrance 
: to the McNamara Terminal; and
: 
: 
: 
: BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED: that this organization empower our president and 
: board to join in any legal actions to remediate this move by the Airport 
: Authority, including filing of friendly briefs, or other actions; and
: 
: 
: 
: BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:  that, this organization empower our president and 
: board to authorize any actions, including, but not limited to,  press 
: releases, testimony or  demonstrations,  which seem prudent, effective 
: andare designed to , result in the restoration of convenient transportation 
: to users of public transportation to the Detroit Metropolitan Airport.
: 
: 
: 
: ----- Original Message ----- 
: From: "David Robinson via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
: To: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>; "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing 
: List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:26 PM
: Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] Followup on Michigan Flyer and Metro AirportFW: 
: 7New, Eco-Friendly Buses Give You an Even Sweeter Ride
: 
: 
: > Fred,
: >
: >   Our resolution at this years convention calls for more then what is just
: 
: > in the settlement.  I don't see any specific progress in the releasethat 
: > warrants any praise for anyone yet.  Carla may have decided to settle, but
: 
: > our resolution does not call for a compromise that results in unequal 
: > treatment.
: >
: > Dave
: > ----- Original Message ----- 
: > From: "Fred Wurtzel via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
: > To: "NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
: > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:08 PM
: > Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Followup on Michigan Flyer and Metro AirportFW: 7 
: > New,Eco-Friendly Buses Give You an Even Sweeter Ride
: >
: >
: >> Hello,
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Here is a release from Michigan Flyer.  There is a promising update on 
: >> the
: >> progress toward fulfillment of the settlement.
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> I really appreciate Karla Hudson for her proactive work on this and the
: >> support of the NFB of Michigan in advocating for a reasonable settlement.
: >> We will be vigilant until we are certain that blind travelers will be 
: >> able
: >> to fully utilize this service without undue inconvenience from the 
: >> airport
: >> authority.  Together, our voices were heard.
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Warmest Regards,
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Fred
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> From: Michigan Flyer [mailto:sales at michiganflyer.com]
: >> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:45 PM
: >> To: f.wurtzel at att.net
: >> Subject: 7 New, Eco-Friendly Buses Give You an Even Sweeter Ride
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Trouble viewing this email? Read it online
: >>
: <http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?7lzhp--3tlsa-ymsckn8&
: >> _v=2>
: >>
: >> ?
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Image removed by sender.
: >>
: >>
: >>  Image removed by sender. E-newsMasthead_November.jpg
: >>
: >>
: >> 7 New, Eco-Friendly Buses Give You an Even Sweeter Ride
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Just for you, we're putting a brand new fleet of seven luxury 
: >> motorcoaches
: >> on the road this month, representing a $3.8 million investment by 
: >> Michigan
: >> Flyer's parent company, Indian Trails, Inc.
: >> <http://trk.cp20.com/Tracking/t.c?7lzhp-ivu79-ymsckn8&_v=2>
: >>
: >> "We invested in a new fleet with high-end safety, comfort, eco-friendly
: >> features because of our commitment to our customers and our communities,"
: >> said Indian Trails President Gordon Mackay. "Since 2012, the number of
: >> passengers who've rewarded Michigan Flyer-AirRide with their business has
: >> doubled from 90,000 a year to more than 180,000."
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> The new fleet-all state-of-the-art 2015 Prevost H3-45 coaches-is equipped
: >> with technology that reduces exhaust pollutants to near zero. In 
: >> addition,
: >> each motorcoach achieves 206 passenger miles per gallon and has the
: >> potential to remove 50 automobiles from the highway, further reducing air
: >> pollution and traffic congestion.
: >>
: >> Safety features include an electronic stability system that enables 
: >> drivers
: >> to avoid danger on slippery roads; an engine fire-detection and 
: >> suppression
: >> system; two GPS systems; and a tire pressure monitoring system. All are
: >> equipped with three-point retractable seatbelts for passengers;
: >> ADA-compliant wheelchair lifts, and a large under-floor luggage 
: >> compartment.
: >>
: >> As for comfort, the new coaches offer deluxe, ergonomic seating with 
: >> leather
: >> headrests and ample leg room; individual climate controls, reading lamps 
: >> and
: >> cup holders; tinted, panoramic side windows; 110-volt AC outlets at each
: >> seat for charging mobile devices; free WiFi; on-board lavatories; and
: >> enclosed, overhead parcel racks.
: >>
: >>
: >> Image removed by sender. Katie Donovan and Odie Norkin
: >>
: >> So, relax and enjoy an even better ride than before!
: >>
: >>
: >> Detroit Metro Airport Update
: >>
: >> Image removed by sender. MIFlyer_Bullet_16px.JPGNew Customer Service Desk
: 
: >> at
: >> DTW's McNamara Terminal
: >>
: >> In December, we're opening a new public-transit customer service desk 
: >> inside
: >> the McNamara Terminal's climate-controlled Ground Transportation Center
: >> (GTC), which has accessible restrooms, drinking fountains and phones 
: >> nearby.
: >> A Michigan Flyer-AirRide staff member will be posted at the service desk 
: >> to
: >> assist passengers on most of our scheduled runs. This lets you stay 
: >> inside
: >> until just before your motorcoach arrives, limiting exposure to weather 
: >> at
: >> our boarding location (in the parking ramp about 200 yards from the 
: >> waiting
: >> area).
: >>
: >> Image removed by sender. MIFlyer_Bullet_16px.JPGIf You Need Help, Just 
: >> Ask
: >>
: >> If you need special assistance in accessing facilities at DTW, it's best 
: >> to
: >> arrange for it with your airline at the time you make flight 
: >> reservations.
: >> The airlines at DTW contract with Prospect Airport Services, Inc., to
: >> provide wheelchair and baggage assistance, and more. You can also call
: >> Prospect directly to arrange for help, preferably in advance but also 
: >> when
: >> you're at the airport. Prospect's phone number at DTW's McNamara Terminal
: 
: >> is
: >> 734-247-2400; at the North Terminal, it's 734-247-1121.
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Image removed by sender. New Customer Service Desk at McNamara Terminal
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Cheers to You This Thanksgiving!
: >>
: >> Thanks to you-our wonderful passengers-Michigan Flyer is now celebrating 
: >> its
: >> eighth anniversary! With your support, our service has been growing 
: >> rapidly
: >> since 2012.
: >>
: >> Over the years, you've told us you love how we enable you to ride in
: >> comfort, avoid traffic, stay productive, save money, conserve energy and
: >> protect the environment. And it doesn't hurt that we help connect two 
: >> great
: >> university towns with one another and the world, and generate millions in
: >> economic benefit for both regions.
: >>
: >> However, you also really wanted the convenience of near-hourly departures
: >> every day between early morning and late evening.
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Image removed by sender. Happy Thanksgiving!
: >>
: >> We delivered in November 2013, upping our daily schedule of roundtrips 
: >> from
: >> eight to 12 on the East Lansing-Ann Arbor segment of our route to and 
: >> from
: >> Detroit Metro Airport. A one-year, one-time start-up grant from the 
: >> Federal
: >> Highway Administration helped us do it. Because of the continuing surge 
: >> in
: >> loyal riders like you, the four new runs are now self-supporting.
: >>
: >> We'd like to express our gratitude to our friends at the Ann Arbor Area
: >> Transportation Authority
: >> <http://trk.cp20.com/Tracking/t.c?7lzhp-ivu7a-ymsckn8&_v=2> , too. A 
: >> giant
: >> first step toward greater frequency was the formation of a public-private
: >> partnership with AAATA ("TheRide") in February 2012 to increase daily
: >> roundtrips from eight to 13 on the Ann Arbor-DTW segment of our route, 
: >> which
: >> we operate as "AirRide
: >> <http://trk.cp20.com/Tracking/t.c?7lzhp-ivu7b-ymsckn9&_v=2> ." It's been 
: >> a
: >> resounding success for Southeast Michigan, and no local property taxes go
: 
: >> to
: >> support AirRide.
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> Image removed by sender.
: >>
: >>
: >> Why Drive?!
: >>
: >> Booking is easy, click here
: >> <http://trk.cp20.com/Tracking/t.c?7lzhp-ivu7c-ymsckn0&_v=2>  to view
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: >> by
: >> sender.
: >>
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: >>
: >>
: >> Michigan Flyer
: >> 333 Albert Street Suite 214 | East Lansing, MI 48823
: >> <http://trk.cp20.com/Tracking/t.c?7lzhp-ivu7e-ymsckn2&_v=2>
: >> www.michiganflyer.com
: >>
: >>
: >>
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