[nfbmi-talk] student division question

J.J. Meddaugh jj at bestmidi.com
Thu Oct 30 05:58:25 UTC 2014 

David
To be perfectly clear, there is logistically no reason that the 
affiliate borad would need to approve such an event, unless there was a 
financial request being made.
That being said, there is also no good reason to not keep the affiliate 
informed either.
As for the original question, there is a student division conference 
call coming up, and I believe this is on the agenda. A decision would 
need to be made soon if a large-scale event is to happen. I personally 
am 100% behind the idea but it will take a lot of people, planning, and 
money to pull this off, whether the money comes from within or other 
sources.



Best regards,
J.J.

On 10/25/2014 8:44 PM, David Robinson via nfbmi-talk wrote:
> Fred,
>
>   Perhaps the question should be that if the event is to follow the 
> NFBMi policies , it would be helpful to have the purpose and plan 
> approved by the president.  After all, if a division goes outside the 
> perimeters and causes a problem for our public image or violates the 
> charter,then who has to answer for it.  I cntend that it would be the 
> affiliate president in the end.
>
> Dave
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Wurtzel via nfbmi-talk" 
> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'joe harcz Comcast'" <joeharcz at comcast.net>; "'NFB of Michigan 
> Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> There are 2 points, here.  First, Elizabeth is correct that the Student
>> Division does not need approval to hold an event.  However, if the 
>> event is
>> to be funded from affilliate general funds, the board would need to 
>> approve
>> such funding.  If the students raise their own money, then, it seems 
>> to me
>> they may do any kind of event, commensurate with NFBMI policy, they 
>> choose.
>>
>> There was extensive discussion of an employment seminar at the 
>> leadership
>> retreat.  As Dave states, the board did not appropriate any funding 
>> for the
>> event.  Jordyn did present an estimated budget which did not mention 
>> funding
>> sources.  I believe it was to be in March.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of joe
>> harcz Comcast via nfbmi-talk
>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:37 PM
>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>>
>> Hi Elizabeth,
>>
>> The proposal was to have the State affiliate to fund this seminar, using
>> already existing resources like BSBP, the One-stops, etc. to the tune of
>> $12,000.
>>
>> So though no formal proposal was put forward, which is what Lydia was 
>> asking
>> for the notion of funding this event and the dollar amount were 
>> mentioned at
>> the leadership retreat.
>>
>> So Dave is right on in his statement and he answered Lydia's questions .
>>
>> Joe
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'David Robinson'" <drob1946 at gmail.com>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet
>> Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>>
>>
>>> Hello Dave,
>>>
>>> Since when does the state student division need to seek the approval
>>> of the state affiliate President to hold an event? The state student
>>> division has its own board and its own treasury. As long as the state
>>> student division board approves of the event and has the money in its
>>> own treasury, there should be no need for any kind of special
>>> approval. I have never seen any other chapter or division seek the
>>> approval of the state affiliate president to hold an event, so why
>>> would it be any different for the state student division?
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Elizabeth
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Robinson [mailto:drob1946 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:19 PM
>>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>>>
>>> Elizabeth,
>>>
>>>   The student division can hold an event if it is approved by the
>>> president. If funds are requested then the board has to approve such
>>> an expenditure.  I do not know the plans as of yet, but as far as I
>>> know, the board has recieved no report on any plans or any approval.
>>>
>>> Dave Robinson
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "'David Robinson'" <drob1946 at gmail.com>; "'NFB of Michigan
>>> Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:13 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Dave,
>>>>
>>>> Unless the state student division is interested in requesting
>>>> financial assistance from the state affiliate, I do not believe the
>>>> state student division needs to seek any kind of special permission
>>>> from the state affiliate to host and event.
>>>>
>>>> The last I heard about this, the state student division was looking
>>>> into planning an employment seminar during the last part of March. I
>>>> do not know if this was discussed any further during state convention.
>>>> It sounds as though J.J. is in charge of the logistics for this
>>>> event, so perhaps he can provide more information about it.
>>>>
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nfbmi-talk [mailto:nfbmi-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> David Robinson via nfbmi-talk
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 5:25 PM
>>>> To: Lydia Anne Schuck; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List; Lydia
>>>> Anne Schuck; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List; Lydia Anne
>>>> Schuck; NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>>>>
>>>> Lydia,
>>>>
>>>>   I do not believe that the student division has approached the board
>>>> to even have such a seminar.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Robinson
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Lydia Anne Schuck via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:04 PM
>>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] student division question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Jordyn or any other student division folk:
>>>>> I am wondering how the planning is going for a student seminar...the
>>>>> planning started at the leadership retreat.  I couldn't get the
>>>>> convention
>>>>
>>>>> stream so I did not hear any updates on it.  If you have a date, I
>>>>> would like to get it on the parent lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lydia Schuck, MSEd
>>>>> Research Associate, National Secondary Transition Technical
>>>>> Assistance Center Western Michigan University
>>>>> 1908 W. Michigan Avenue, Mailstop 5259 Kalamazoo, MI 49008 phone
>>>>> 269.387.5990
>>>>>
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