[Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 3
Kendra Schaber
Baltimore777 at comcast.net
Fri Apr 6 18:55:51 UTC 2012
Hi all, The rain in the vallies of Oregon keeps the plants green and happy
and the snow in the mountains keeps us away from drouts. The rain has to
fall each year in its correct timing for this water cycle to work right. We
have rivers, lakes and many smaller bodies of water as a result. Most
Oregonians don't like all of the rain in the winter but that doesn't keep us
from keeping our daily jobs and living our daily lives. Most of the
Oregonians who do like the rain are ones who follow the seasons and the
weather patterns and the ones who depends on nature for everything to run
smoothly like gardeners for example. I am a gardener and I follow the
seasons so I would go more crazy without enough rain fall or rain fall that
is not in its correct timing than I would with it.
As for chickens, make sure to checdk the local city laws before you
start up a city chicken coop. I understand that Salem, Oregon ressedents who
wants to have a chicken coop can only have three chickens in their chicken
coops. Most of my gardener friends and I think that the law is a little
restricting. Just a head's up for those who are on this mailing list and who
lives in the city who also is looking into raising chickens. That artical
was still interesting! I didn't know that there are chickens that can make
pastell-colored eggs! Why not have some in a chicken coop in time to
celebrate Easter?
Kendra Schaber
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> 8. Straight from the Home Coop, with recipes (Susan Roe)
> 9. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
> 10. Re: Gardening for your chickens (Susan Roe)
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> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:05:18 -0600
> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] baby goats
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> Oh how cute Nella! If all goes well this year, we will get our first doe
> in
> November and she will already have been seasoned. She would then kid in
> February or March. I still want the doe to be a
> Toggenburg like Homer my wheither is.
>
>
>
> When will you start weening the babies from their mama?
>
>
>
> Susan
>
> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:42 PM
> Subject: [Ag-eq] baby goats
>
>
>>
>> Hi, I just wanted to tell every one about my baby goats. I think I
>> mentioned in
>> an earlier post that one of my doe goats was due in mid March. Well they
>> arrived right on time; they were born March 11. She had healthy twin
>> girls!
>>
>> The kids are Nubians, so they have long hound dog ears. I just can't get
>> over
>> how cute and fun they are. They are very curious and into everything.
>> They
>> act a lot like puppies, they run, jump, play and even chew on things.
>> They
>> have just started nibbling on the hay and grain.
>>
>> They are growing like weeds; they're probably twice their birth size.
>> They're
>> using most of the milk, we are getting very little for our use. She's
>> producing a lot, so once I wean the kids there will be plenty. I've
>> gotten
>> enough milk to make some cheese and ice cream. Once I wean the kids I
>> will
>> make a lot more cheese.
>>
>> If any of you have goat questions please ask, I will answer to the best
>> of
>> my
>> ability.
>>
>> Nella
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
>>
>>> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>>> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>>> gardens.
>>> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all
>>> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>>>
>>> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>>> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Fred
>>>
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> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:21:20 -0700
> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
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> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
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> Susan:
>
> I'm with you; I don't think the brown or white taste different. I do like
> my
> howm grown eggs much better. I'm told that the yoke of farm fresh eggs is
> brighter than store eggs.
>
> Have you ever had any of the chickens that lay eggs with green shells?
>
> I know it's just in my mind, but I don't want to eat green eggs!
>
> Nella
>
> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>
>> LOL, the brown/white egg debate will go on until there are no chickens on
>> earth. Personally, the only difference I can tell is between store
>> baught
>> and farm raised. Give me farm raised any day!
>>
>> Susan
>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:59 PM
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>>
>>
>> > Hi Susan,
>> >
>> > Oh thank you. That is exactly the kind of advice I need. No, brown or
>> > white doesn't matter to me. It is funny, in New York the white are
>> > more
>> > expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
>> > brown
>> > ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
>> >
>> > JODY
>> >
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> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:34:14 -0700
> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
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> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
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> Jody:
>
> You don't know how many times I've thought of putting the pack saddle on
> one of
> the mules and hiking the mile and a half to the grocery store!
>
> Even though I can take the bus to the store, I usually pay a friend to
> drive and
> shop with me. I used to take the bus to the store buy a lot of groceries
> and
> bring a cab home. I find that I save both money and time when shopping
> with my
> friend. She has a family, actually cooks and knows how to bargain shop.
> The
> teenagers working at the store know none of these things!
>
> Sometimes I will go and pick up a few items on my own, but for the big
> shopping
> trips, I'd rather pay an assistant. I rarely shop with Mike; it's
> something we
> don't do well together!
>
> Nella
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Quoting "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Oh thank you all for all the advice. I am so glad I am on this list now.
>>
>> What is a permaculturalist?
>>
>> We will be living about 2 miles from two convenience stores but about 12
>> miles from Sebring which is a nice sized town with lots of stores. I
>> will
>> be shopping with my husband Tom. Transportation there is non existant
>> but
>> the same is true for where I live now. Then there is the hhorse I will
>> ride
>> to the conventience stores. <GRIN>
>>
>> JODY
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:37:06 -0700
> From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
> To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
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> Hi all, permiculture is a portmentoe on horticulture and perminent. A
> permiculturists is someone who practices permiculture in their gardens.
> Permiculture itself is the practice in gardening of growing edable plants
> next to flowers that are compatable with each other and also benifit each
> other in some way also in the smallest space that each plant can grow in
> without getting root bound or cramped in any way, shape or form. There are
> many resources on the internet for ideas. Google is a good place to start.
> I
> do most of my plant research through Google searches. There is
> Horticulture
> Magazine and a whole section of gardening books on BARD, Better Home and
> Gardens on Newsline, gardening books on Learning Alley and I'm sure that
> there are more gardening books elsewhere on the accessable format book
> market for ideas. There is one book that isn't anywhere on the accessable
> format book market that is a really good resource for gardeners is called
> The Western Book of Gardening, the 2006 addition by Sunset Publishing. I
> have hunted for that book for at least a month last year but had no luck.
> I
> needed it because it was required for my education at Sunnyside Organics
> which is the place that I currently work at. I looked at the resources
> that
> I had and had a friend look for it it the resources that she had and I
> even
> contacted the publisher who sent me back to the NLS who I checked with on
> all levels twice before but not a corner of that book was found anywhere
> on
> the accessable format book market. I have to borrow a pair of eyes if I
> wish
> to get information from that particular book. When I am at home, I use the
> internet, the two magazines that I listed above or other books to gain
> simular information. As for wishis about rain, I live in Oregon which gets
> a
> lot of rain during the fall, winter and spring. If you wish to get more
> rain, how about looking to the northwest to live in? Most Oregonians get
> sick and tired of the rain.
> Kendra Schaber
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>> 1. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Kendra Schaber)
>> 2. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
>> 3. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
>> 4. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Fred's ol' XP)
>> 5. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
>> 6. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (nfoster at extremezone.com)
>> 7. baby goats (nfoster at extremezone.com)
>> 8. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
>> 9. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
>> 10. Gardening for your chickens (Susan Roe)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:11:50 -0700
>> From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
>> To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
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>> Hi JODY, congradulationce! You are planning on growing beans, corn and
>> water
>> mellon? I know that the Native Americans grew beans, corn and squash
>> together in kind of like try-pods because one provided shelter to the
>> others
>> but they each gave the other plants within that try-pod something that
>> each
>> could benifit from. If you checked out permiculture, then you will find
>> other plants that grow best together with the smallest amount of space so
>> that way, you can have even more plants on your garden space.
>> Kendra Schaber
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>>> 1. Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
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>>> 3. Re: Dream come true (Fred's ol' XP)
>>> 4. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
>>> 5. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
>>> 6. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
>>> 7. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:04:15 -0400
>>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
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>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> we are moving to the country! Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving to
>>> a
>>> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
>>> chicken
>>> coop. It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds redundant.
>>> hahahahaha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am so excited I am bursting. The whole property is fenced in so the
>>> dogs
>>> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
>>> horses
>>> too!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JODY
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:20:47 -0600
>>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
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>>>
>>> Jody,
>>> How wonderful for you! I feel almost excited as you do and here is to
>>> hoping you can make a few of those dreams come true! LOL
>>>
>>> Susan
>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:04 PM
>>> Subject: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> we are moving to the country! Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving to
>>>> a
>>>> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
>>>> chicken
>>>> coop. It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds redundant.
>>>> hahahahaha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am so excited I am bursting. The whole property is fenced in so the
>>>> dogs
>>>> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
>>>> horses
>>>> too!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> JODY
>>>>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:34:27 -0700
>>> From: Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>>> Message-ID: <E1SF9W2-0002zR-LQ at elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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>>> Ya,
>>> Sounds wonderful!
>>> How is transportation in that area?
>>> You'll get lots of rain, right?
>>> What do you hope to grow?
>>>
>>> Fred Chambers
>>> Carlsbad, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:19:25 -0400
>>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>>> Message-ID: <52FF317BA0404E0C8880B67184386897 at ISC.local>
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>>>
>>> Hello susan,
>>>
>>> Thank you so much. You will have to teach me all about chickens and
>>> horses.
>>> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a farm
>>> says
>>> it isn't finished. What does a coop include?
>>>
>>> JODY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:20:39 -0400
>>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
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>>>
>>> Hi Fred,
>>>
>>> Thank you. We will be in central Florida so we can grow all year except
>>> the
>>> middle of the summer when it is too hot. I was thinking corn, lots of
>>> different kinds of beans and water melon.
>>>
>>> JODY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:26:11 -0600
>>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>>> Message-ID: <003301cd11e8$c79c0c30$48301b3f at SuesComputer>
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>>> reply-type=original
>>>
>>> I will be more than happy to talk to you till the cows come home about
>>> chickens! Inside the coop you will need some sort of nest boxes and a
>>> few
>>> pirches because there will be a few hens and a rooster if you get one,
>>> that
>>> will prefer to pirch at night instead of occupying a nest box. We have
>>> one
>>> or two windows in each coop for light and air circulation with heavy
>>> gage
>>> screen over them. I have 3 coops that ar 5 by 12 feet and 6 feet high
>>> inside. Each coop has a fenced in run attached to the front that is 12
>>> foot
>>> squared with chicken wire fencing all around and over the top. There
>>> are
>>> way too many hunting dogs that pass through our 60 acres and a healthy
>>> farel
>>> cat population that has been here for about 50 years.
>>>
>>> Check out your coop and let me know what it looks like.
>>>
>>> Does it matter to you if you have brown or white eggs? It doesn't to
>>> me,
>>> however, my husband and customers only want brown, so needless to say,
>>> all
>>> of my 3 breeds are brown egg layers.
>>>
>>> I am hoping to get another 20 hens by the end of the month. I really
>>> want
>>> to get Red Stars or Rhode Island Reds, but the further April gets the
>>> less
>>> choice I may have. I will probably end up with a mixed hen assortment,
>>> but
>>> as long as they lay large brown eggs I can't complain too much.
>>>
>>> Susan
>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello susan,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much. You will have to teach me all about chickens and
>>>> horses.
>>>> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a farm
>>>> says
>>>> it isn't finished. What does a coop include?
>>>>
>>>> JODY
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:59:02 -0400
>>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
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>>>
>>> Hi Susan,
>>>
>>> Oh thank you. That is exactly the kind of advice I need. No, brown or
>>> white doesn't matter to me. It is funny, in New York the white are more
>>> expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
>>> brown
>>> ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
>>>
>>> JODY
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:58:26 -0700
>> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> Message-ID: <1333569506.4f7ca7e2bacb2 at webmail.extremezone.com>
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>>
>> Jody:
>>
>> I don't know what your temperatures are there, but my biggest concern is
>> shade
>> and air circulation. I know Florida can get very hot and it is a lot
>> more
>> humid than Arizona.
>>
>> I keep my chickens in a 15 by 30 chain link run, with bird netting across
>> the
>> top. There's a tree on the outside that gives shade and I have 2 A frame
>> structures that are open on the ends; these have pirches half way up. I
>> often
>> find the hens just pirching on top of them. I also have a hen coop that
>> looks
>> like a barn, it's 4 by 4; this is where I keep the nest boxes. There are
>> also
>> pirches in there, but I never see them on them. This structure is about
>> 3
>> feet
>> off the ground and the hens like getting under it when it's really hot.
>> There
>> are doors on each side of the top part, so I can easily clean it. There
>> are
>> also some vents along the edge of the roof for air flow. The only time I
>> find
>> the girls roosting in the fancy barn coop is on the few cold nights that
>> we
>> have!
>>
>> I tried to choose lighter bodied hens since I think they handle the heat
>> better.
>> I have 3 barred rocks and 3 cinnomon queens; they are a little smaller
>> than
>> Road Island Reds. These breeds lay brown eggs. All of mine are quite
>> docile
>> and seem to have no nesting instincts; this makes gathering the eggs
>> easy!
>>
>> Please keep us posted on your progress and feel free to ask questions. I
>> learned much of what I know from Susan, so she's probably a better
>> resource!
>> There is a very good discussion forum at www.backyardchickens.com
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Nella
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>>
>>> I will be more than happy to talk to you till the cows come home about
>>> chickens! Inside the coop you will need some sort of nest boxes and a
>>> few
>>> pirches because there will be a few hens and a rooster if you get one,
>>> that
>>> will prefer to pirch at night instead of occupying a nest box. We have
>>> one
>>> or two windows in each coop for light and air circulation with heavy
>>> gage
>>> screen over them. I have 3 coops that ar 5 by 12 feet and 6 feet high
>>> inside. Each coop has a fenced in run attached to the front that is 12
>>> foot
>>> squared with chicken wire fencing all around and over the top. There
>>> are
>>> way too many hunting dogs that pass through our 60 acres and a healthy
>>> farel
>>> cat population that has been here for about 50 years.
>>>
>>> Check out your coop and let me know what it looks like.
>>>
>>> Does it matter to you if you have brown or white eggs? It doesn't to
>>> me,
>>> however, my husband and customers only want brown, so needless to say,
>>> all
>>> of my 3 breeds are brown egg layers.
>>>
>>> I am hoping to get another 20 hens by the end of the month. I really
>>> want
>>> to get Red Stars or Rhode Island Reds, but the further April gets the
>>> less
>>> choice I may have. I will probably end up with a mixed hen assortment,
>>> but
>>> as long as they lay large brown eggs I can't complain too much.
>>>
>>> Susan
>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hello susan,
>>> >
>>> > Thank you so much. You will have to teach me all about chickens and
>>> > horses.
>>> > There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a
>>> > farm
>>> > says
>>> > it isn't finished. What does a coop include?
>>> >
>>> > JODY
>>> >
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:03:00 -0700
>> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> Message-ID: <1333569780.4f7ca8f48fe03 at webmail.extremezone.com>
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>>
>> Jody:
>>
>> I'll be happy to answer any questions I can. I have some experience with
>> chickens, gardening and quite a lot of horse experience. I grew up on a
>> farm,
>> so know a little about cows and other farm topics.
>>
>> You're are going to have so much fun putting your little farm together!
>>
>> Nella
>>
>> Quoting "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
>>
>>> Hello susan,
>>>
>>> Thank you so much. You will have to teach me all about chickens and
>>> horses.
>>> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a farm
>>> says
>>> it isn't finished. What does a coop include?
>>>
>>> JODY
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:08:47 -0700
>> From: Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>> Message-ID: <E1SFWVi-0005OL-1G at elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>> gardens.
>> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all
>> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>>
>> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>> Good luck!
>> Fred
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:18:00 -0700
>> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> Message-ID: <1333570680.4f7cac78eb25b at webmail.extremezone.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Jody:
>>
>> I'm so jealous; you're so lucky!!!
>>
>> I know you must be very, very excited. Please tell us more about it and
>> how it
>> all happened.
>>
>> Do you have stalls and a barn?
>>
>> Will you be close to where you are now?
>>
>> How far will you be from town and what kind of transportation is
>> available.
>>
>> I wish I could live some where with rain, not in the middle of the
>> desert.
>> A
>> ponbd, I've almost forgotten what a body of water looks like! I would
>> love for
>> my goats, mules and horse to be able to graze; they are stuck on a dry
>> lot
>> eating a fortune in hay! Actually I really like my little house and
>> horse
>> property. I was lucky to find something that was affordable and in city
>> limits. I even have bus access and can walk to some things. My
>> neighborhood
>> is very friendly and there are even people to ride with. I'll be happy
>> where I
>> am until the timing is right for me to move to the country.
>>
>> I can't wait to hear more about your farm and farming adventures.
>>
>> Congratulations!!!
>>
>> Nella
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> we are moving to the country! Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving to
>>> a
>>> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
>>> chicken
>>> coop. It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds redundant.
>>> hahahahaha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am so excited I am bursting. The whole property is fenced in so the
>>> dogs
>>> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
>>> horses
>>> too!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> JODY
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:26:17 -0700
>> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>> Message-ID: <1333571177.4f7cae697cb2b at webmail.extremezone.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>>
>> Fred:
>>
>> Can you please tell us more about permaculture?
>>
>> Also can you recommend some good books or websites for me to read?
>>
>> My goal is to grow more of my food in a rather small place, so I'm trying
>> to
>> learn as much as possible.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Nella
>>
>> Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
>>
>>> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>>> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>>> gardens.
>>> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all
>>> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>>>
>>> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>>> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:42:10 -0700
>> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Ag-eq] baby goats
>> Message-ID: <1333572130.4f7cb22285283 at webmail.extremezone.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>>
>> Hi, I just wanted to tell every one about my baby goats. I think I
>> mentioned in
>> an earlier post that one of my doe goats was due in mid March. Well they
>> arrived right on time; they were born March 11. She had healthy twin
>> girls!
>>
>> The kids are Nubians, so they have long hound dog ears. I just can't get
>> over
>> how cute and fun they are. They are very curious and into everything.
>> They
>> act a lot like puppies, they run, jump, play and even chew on things.
>> They
>> have just started nibbling on the hay and grain.
>>
>> They are growing like weeds; they're probably twice their birth size.
>> They're
>> using most of the milk, we are getting very little for our use. She's
>> producing a lot, so once I wean the kids there will be plenty. I've
>> gotten
>> enough milk to make some cheese and ice cream. Once I wean the kids I
>> will
>> make a lot more cheese.
>>
>> If any of you have goat questions please ask, I will answer to the best
>> of
>> my
>> ability.
>>
>> Nella
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
>>
>>> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>>> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>>> gardens.
>>> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all
>>> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>>>
>>> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>>> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:23:27 -0400
>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>> Message-ID: <32838A9B936745179093C880F0A093E9 at ISC.local>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Oh thank you all for all the advice. I am so glad I am on this list now.
>>
>> What is a permaculturalist?
>>
>> We will be living about 2 miles from two convenience stores but about 12
>> miles from Sebring which is a nice sized town with lots of stores. I
>> will
>> be shopping with my husband Tom. Transportation there is non existant
>> but
>> the same is true for where I live now. Then there is the hhorse I will
>> ride
>> to the conventience stores. <GRIN>
>>
>> JODY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:37:47 -0600
>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> Message-ID: <002b01cd134a$70d223e0$72341b3f at SuesComputer>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> LOL, the brown/white egg debate will go on until there are no chickens on
>> earth. Personally, the only difference I can tell is between store
>> baught
>> and farm raised. Give me farm raised any day!
>>
>> Susan
>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>>
>>
>>> Hi Susan,
>>>
>>> Oh thank you. That is exactly the kind of advice I need. No, brown or
>>> white doesn't matter to me. It is funny, in New York the white are more
>>> expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
>>> brown
>>> ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
>>>
>>> JODY
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:56:22 -0600
>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Ag-eq] Gardening for your chickens
>> Message-ID: <005001cd134d$08ed9590$72341b3f at SuesComputer>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>> reply-type=response
>>
>> Don't forget to feed some of your garden to your future chickens. I have
>> not found one vegetable, fruit or natural organic material that my hens
>> won't eat with gusto. Also, they will go after any small living creature
>> that doesn't out run them. Bugs, crickets, grasshoppers, mice, frogs,
>> lizards and snakes. We laugh about the hens in coop 2 that are Bard
>> Rocks
>> and Buff Orphingtons that do not have a rooster. They are a bit pushy
>> without a rooster, so they can get a bit impatient at feeding time. My
>> husband tells me to never fall down in the run before I feed them or I
>> just
>> might find myself on their dinner minue!
>>
>> Susan
>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>>
>>
>>> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>>> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>>> gardens.
>>> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all goes
>>> well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>>>
>>> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>>> keep
>>> squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>> ************************************
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:45:14 -0700
> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] baby goats
> Message-ID: <1333647914.4f7dda2a51bdc at webmail.extremezone.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Susan:
>
> the Toggenbergs are very nice goats; I have 2 my old nanny and her son.
> Jellybean is very old now and not in good health. I don't think she will
> be
> with us much longer, but she has had a good long life. Her son is 8 and
> doing
> very well.
>
> I will start weaning the kids at 6 to 7 weeks. I know there will be lots
> of
> crying. They are just starting to eat hay and goat feed. I can't believe
> how
> fast they are growing. I think they will get bigger than Lollipop, who is
> their mother. The buck that I bred her to was quite large.
>
> I'll let you know about the weaning process.
>
> Nella
>
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>
>> Oh how cute Nella! If all goes well this year, we will get our first doe
>> in
>> November and she will already have been seasoned. She would then kid in
>> February or March. I still want the doe to be a
>> Toggenburg like Homer my wheither is.
>>
>>
>>
>> When will you start weening the babies from their mama?
>>
>>
>>
>> Susan
>>
>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:42 PM
>> Subject: [Ag-eq] baby goats
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi, I just wanted to tell every one about my baby goats. I think I
>> > mentioned in
>> > an earlier post that one of my doe goats was due in mid March. Well
>> > they
>> > arrived right on time; they were born March 11. She had healthy twin
>> > girls!
>> >
>> > The kids are Nubians, so they have long hound dog ears. I just can't
>> > get
>> > over
>> > how cute and fun they are. They are very curious and into everything.
>> > They
>> > act a lot like puppies, they run, jump, play and even chew on things.
>> > They
>> > have just started nibbling on the hay and grain.
>> >
>> > They are growing like weeds; they're probably twice their birth size.
>> > They're
>> > using most of the milk, we are getting very little for our use. She's
>> > producing a lot, so once I wean the kids there will be plenty. I've
>> > gotten
>> > enough milk to make some cheese and ice cream. Once I wean the kids I
>> > will
>> > make a lot more cheese.
>> >
>> > If any of you have goat questions please ask, I will answer to the best
>> > of
>> > my
>> > ability.
>> >
>> > Nella
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
>> >
>> >> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>> >> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>> >> gardens.
>> >> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all
>> >> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>> >>
>> >> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>> >> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>> >> Good luck!
>> >> Fred
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> >
>> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:52:29 -0700
> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Gardening for your chickens
> Message-ID: <1333648349.4f7ddbdd16551 at webmail.extremezone.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Susan:
>
> My chickens will not eat any part of citrus fruit. They will eat
> everything
> else. The goats and mules love citrus fruit, so nothing ever goes to
> waste.
>
> Most people around here including myself, have some type of citrus tree,
> so
> there's always lots of oranges and grape fruits available. A couple of
> neighbors give me fruit for the animals. My old mule Jack loves to chase
> grape
> fruits around!
>
> Nella
>
>
>
> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>
>> Don't forget to feed some of your garden to your future chickens. I have
>> not found one vegetable, fruit or natural organic material that my hens
>> won't eat with gusto. Also, they will go after any small living creature
>> that doesn't out run them. Bugs, crickets, grasshoppers, mice, frogs,
>> lizards and snakes. We laugh about the hens in coop 2 that are Bard
>> Rocks
>> and Buff Orphingtons that do not have a rooster. They are a bit pushy
>> without a rooster, so they can get a bit impatient at feeding time. My
>> husband tells me to never fall down in the run before I feed them or I
>> just
>> might find myself on their dinner minue!
>>
>> Susan
>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>>
>>
>> > Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>> > I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>> > gardens.
>> > If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all goes
>> > well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>> >
>> > I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>> > keep
>> > squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>> > Good luck!
>> > Fred
>> >
>> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:56:45 -0700
> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
> Message-ID: <1333648605.4f7ddcdd4f72b at webmail.extremezone.com>
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>
> Kendra:
>
> Thanks for all the good information.
>
> I don't know if I want as much rain as you get! I think I'm probably
> stuck in
> Arizona, I don't see Mike moving anywhere.
>
> Nella
>
> Quoting Kendra Schaber <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>:
>
>> Hi all, permiculture is a portmentoe on horticulture and perminent. A
>> permiculturists is someone who practices permiculture in their gardens.
>> Permiculture itself is the practice in gardening of growing edable plants
>> next to flowers that are compatable with each other and also benifit each
>> other in some way also in the smallest space that each plant can grow in
>> without getting root bound or cramped in any way, shape or form. There
>> are
>> many resources on the internet for ideas. Google is a good place to
>> start. I
>> do most of my plant research through Google searches. There is
>> Horticulture
>> Magazine and a whole section of gardening books on BARD, Better Home and
>> Gardens on Newsline, gardening books on Learning Alley and I'm sure that
>> there are more gardening books elsewhere on the accessable format book
>> market for ideas. There is one book that isn't anywhere on the accessable
>> format book market that is a really good resource for gardeners is called
>> The Western Book of Gardening, the 2006 addition by Sunset Publishing. I
>> have hunted for that book for at least a month last year but had no luck.
>> I
>> needed it because it was required for my education at Sunnyside Organics
>> which is the place that I currently work at. I looked at the resources
>> that
>> I had and had a friend look for it it the resources that she had and I
>> even
>> contacted the publisher who sent me back to the NLS who I checked with on
>> all levels twice before but not a corner of that book was found anywhere
>> on
>> the accessable format book market. I have to borrow a pair of eyes if I
>> wish
>> to get information from that particular book. When I am at home, I use
>> the
>> internet, the two magazines that I listed above or other books to gain
>> simular information. As for wishis about rain, I live in Oregon which
>> gets a
>> lot of rain during the fall, winter and spring. If you wish to get more
>> rain, how about looking to the northwest to live in? Most Oregonians get
>> sick and tired of the rain.
>> Kendra Schaber
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <ag-eq-request at nfbnet.org>
>> To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:00 AM
>> Subject: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
>>
>>
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>> > Today's Topics:
>> >
>> > 1. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Kendra Schaber)
>> > 2. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
>> > 3. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
>> > 4. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Fred's ol' XP)
>> > 5. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
>> > 6. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (nfoster at extremezone.com)
>> > 7. baby goats (nfoster at extremezone.com)
>> > 8. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
>> > 9. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
>> > 10. Gardening for your chickens (Susan Roe)
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:11:50 -0700
>> > From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
>> > To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>> > Message-ID: <3661C3C9FF79497F9C49A96FE6551694 at your90477e8f53>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> > reply-type=original
>> >
>> > Hi JODY, congradulationce! You are planning on growing beans, corn and
>> > water
>> > mellon? I know that the Native Americans grew beans, corn and squash
>> > together in kind of like try-pods because one provided shelter to the
>> > others
>> > but they each gave the other plants within that try-pod something that
>> > each
>> > could benifit from. If you checked out permiculture, then you will find
>> > other plants that grow best together with the smallest amount of space
>> > so
>> > that way, you can have even more plants on your garden space.
>> > Kendra Schaber
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <ag-eq-request at nfbnet.org>
>> > To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:00 AM
>> > Subject: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>> >
>> >
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>> >> Today's Topics:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
>> >> 2. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
>> >> 3. Re: Dream come true (Fred's ol' XP)
>> >> 4. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
>> >> 5. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
>> >> 6. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
>> >> 7. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:04:15 -0400
>> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Subject: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >> Message-ID: <6DEB0A5A25184AB6AEDC4A2C35CE0BFF at ISC.local>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> we are moving to the country! Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving
>> >> to a
>> >> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
>> >> chicken
>> >> coop. It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds redundant.
>> >> hahahahaha
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am so excited I am bursting. The whole property is fenced in so the
>> >> dogs
>> >> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
>> >> horses
>> >> too!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> JODY
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:20:47 -0600
>> >> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >> Message-ID: <002401cd11ce$e16c03a0$48301b3f at SuesComputer>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>> >> reply-type=original
>> >>
>> >> Jody,
>> >> How wonderful for you! I feel almost excited as you do and here is to
>> >> hoping you can make a few of those dreams come true! LOL
>> >>
>> >> Susan
>> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:04 PM
>> >> Subject: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> we are moving to the country! Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving
>> >>> to
>> >>> a
>> >>> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
>> >>> chicken
>> >>> coop. It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds
>> >>> redundant.
>> >>> hahahahaha
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I am so excited I am bursting. The whole property is fenced in so
>> >>> the
>> >>> dogs
>> >>> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
>> >>> horses
>> >>> too!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> JODY
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 3
>> >> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:34:27 -0700
>> >> From: Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>> >> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >> Message-ID: <E1SF9W2-0002zR-LQ at elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>> >>
>> >> Ya,
>> >> Sounds wonderful!
>> >> How is transportation in that area?
>> >> You'll get lots of rain, right?
>> >> What do you hope to grow?
>> >>
>> >> Fred Chambers
>> >> Carlsbad, CA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 4
>> >> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:19:25 -0400
>> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >> Message-ID: <52FF317BA0404E0C8880B67184386897 at ISC.local>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >> Hello susan,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you so much. You will have to teach me all about chickens and
>> >> horses.
>> >> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a
>> >> farm
>> >> says
>> >> it isn't finished. What does a coop include?
>> >>
>> >> JODY
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 5
>> >> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:20:39 -0400
>> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >> Message-ID: <4E47E3D0EE3240D2B3552133D648620C at ISC.local>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >> Hi Fred,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you. We will be in central Florida so we can grow all year
>> >> except
>> >> the
>> >> middle of the summer when it is too hot. I was thinking corn, lots of
>> >> different kinds of beans and water melon.
>> >>
>> >> JODY
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 6
>> >> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:26:11 -0600
>> >> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >> Message-ID: <003301cd11e8$c79c0c30$48301b3f at SuesComputer>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>> >> reply-type=original
>> >>
>> >> I will be more than happy to talk to you till the cows come home about
>> >> chickens! Inside the coop you will need some sort of nest boxes and a
>> >> few
>> >> pirches because there will be a few hens and a rooster if you get one,
>> >> that
>> >> will prefer to pirch at night instead of occupying a nest box. We
>> >> have
>> >> one
>> >> or two windows in each coop for light and air circulation with heavy
>> >> gage
>> >> screen over them. I have 3 coops that ar 5 by 12 feet and 6 feet high
>> >> inside. Each coop has a fenced in run attached to the front that is
>> >> 12
>> >> foot
>> >> squared with chicken wire fencing all around and over the top. There
>> >> are
>> >> way too many hunting dogs that pass through our 60 acres and a healthy
>> >> farel
>> >> cat population that has been here for about 50 years.
>> >>
>> >> Check out your coop and let me know what it looks like.
>> >>
>> >> Does it matter to you if you have brown or white eggs? It doesn't to
>> >> me,
>> >> however, my husband and customers only want brown, so needless to say,
>> >> all
>> >> of my 3 breeds are brown egg layers.
>> >>
>> >> I am hoping to get another 20 hens by the end of the month. I really
>> >> want
>> >> to get Red Stars or Rhode Island Reds, but the further April gets the
>> >> less
>> >> choice I may have. I will probably end up with a mixed hen
>> >> assortment,
>> >> but
>> >> as long as they lay large brown eggs I can't complain too much.
>> >>
>> >> Susan
>> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:19 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Hello susan,
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you so much. You will have to teach me all about chickens and
>> >>> horses.
>> >>> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a
>> >>> farm
>> >>> says
>> >>> it isn't finished. What does a coop include?
>> >>>
>> >>> JODY
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 7
>> >> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:59:02 -0400
>> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >> Message-ID: <848BEEBA779445659DF4BC4F996F85F5 at ISC.local>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >> Hi Susan,
>> >>
>> >> Oh thank you. That is exactly the kind of advice I need. No, brown
>> >> or
>> >> white doesn't matter to me. It is funny, in New York the white are
>> >> more
>> >> expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
>> >> brown
>> >> ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
>> >>
>> >> JODY
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> End of Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>> >> ************************************
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:58:26 -0700
>> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
>> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> > Message-ID: <1333569506.4f7ca7e2bacb2 at webmail.extremezone.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >
>> > Jody:
>> >
>> > I don't know what your temperatures are there, but my biggest concern
>> > is
>> > shade
>> > and air circulation. I know Florida can get very hot and it is a lot
>> > more
>> > humid than Arizona.
>> >
>> > I keep my chickens in a 15 by 30 chain link run, with bird netting
>> > across
>> > the
>> > top. There's a tree on the outside that gives shade and I have 2 A
>> > frame
>> > structures that are open on the ends; these have pirches half way up.
>> > I
>> > often
>> > find the hens just pirching on top of them. I also have a hen coop
>> > that
>> > looks
>> > like a barn, it's 4 by 4; this is where I keep the nest boxes. There
>> > are
>> > also
>> > pirches in there, but I never see them on them. This structure is
>> > about 3
>> > feet
>> > off the ground and the hens like getting under it when it's really hot.
>> > There
>> > are doors on each side of the top part, so I can easily clean it.
>> > There
>> > are
>> > also some vents along the edge of the roof for air flow. The only time
>> > I
>> > find
>> > the girls roosting in the fancy barn coop is on the few cold nights
>> > that
>> > we
>> > have!
>> >
>> > I tried to choose lighter bodied hens since I think they handle the
>> > heat
>> > better.
>> > I have 3 barred rocks and 3 cinnomon queens; they are a little smaller
>> > than
>> > Road Island Reds. These breeds lay brown eggs. All of mine are quite
>> > docile
>> > and seem to have no nesting instincts; this makes gathering the eggs
>> > easy!
>> >
>> > Please keep us posted on your progress and feel free to ask questions.
>> > I
>> > learned much of what I know from Susan, so she's probably a better
>> > resource!
>> > There is a very good discussion forum at www.backyardchickens.com
>> >
>> > Good luck.
>> >
>> > Nella
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>> >
>> >> I will be more than happy to talk to you till the cows come home about
>> >> chickens! Inside the coop you will need some sort of nest boxes and a
>> >> few
>> >> pirches because there will be a few hens and a rooster if you get one,
>> >> that
>> >> will prefer to pirch at night instead of occupying a nest box. We
>> >> have
>> >> one
>> >> or two windows in each coop for light and air circulation with heavy
>> >> gage
>> >> screen over them. I have 3 coops that ar 5 by 12 feet and 6 feet high
>> >> inside. Each coop has a fenced in run attached to the front that is
>> >> 12
>> >> foot
>> >> squared with chicken wire fencing all around and over the top. There
>> >> are
>> >> way too many hunting dogs that pass through our 60 acres and a healthy
>> >> farel
>> >> cat population that has been here for about 50 years.
>> >>
>> >> Check out your coop and let me know what it looks like.
>> >>
>> >> Does it matter to you if you have brown or white eggs? It doesn't to
>> >> me,
>> >> however, my husband and customers only want brown, so needless to say,
>> >> all
>> >> of my 3 breeds are brown egg layers.
>> >>
>> >> I am hoping to get another 20 hens by the end of the month. I really
>> >> want
>> >> to get Red Stars or Rhode Island Reds, but the further April gets the
>> >> less
>> >> choice I may have. I will probably end up with a mixed hen
>> >> assortment,
>> >> but
>> >> as long as they lay large brown eggs I can't complain too much.
>> >>
>> >> Susan
>> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:19 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hello susan,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you so much. You will have to teach me all about chickens and
>> >> > horses.
>> >> > There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a
>> >> > farm
>> >> > says
>> >> > it isn't finished. What does a coop include?
>> >> >
>> >> > JODY
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> > Ag-eq:
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>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:03:00 -0700
>> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
>> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> > Message-ID: <1333569780.4f7ca8f48fe03 at webmail.extremezone.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >
>> > Jody:
>> >
>> > I'll be happy to answer any questions I can. I have some experience
>> > with
>> > chickens, gardening and quite a lot of horse experience. I grew up on
>> > a
>> > farm,
>> > so know a little about cows and other farm topics.
>> >
>> > You're are going to have so much fun putting your little farm together!
>> >
>> > Nella
>> >
>> > Quoting "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
>> >
>> >> Hello susan,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you so much. You will have to teach me all about chickens and
>> >> horses.
>> >> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a
>> >> farm
>> >> says
>> >> it isn't finished. What does a coop include?
>> >>
>> >> JODY
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> > Message: 4
>> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:08:47 -0700
>> > From: Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
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>> > Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>> > I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>> > gardens.
>> > If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all
>> > goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>> >
>> > I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>> > keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>> > Good luck!
>> > Fred
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 5
>> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:18:00 -0700
>> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
>> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> > Message-ID: <1333570680.4f7cac78eb25b at webmail.extremezone.com>
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>> >
>> > Jody:
>> >
>> > I'm so jealous; you're so lucky!!!
>> >
>> > I know you must be very, very excited. Please tell us more about it
>> > and
>> > how it
>> > all happened.
>> >
>> > Do you have stalls and a barn?
>> >
>> > Will you be close to where you are now?
>> >
>> > How far will you be from town and what kind of transportation is
>> > available.
>> >
>> > I wish I could live some where with rain, not in the middle of the
>> > desert.
>> > A
>> > ponbd, I've almost forgotten what a body of water looks like! I would
>> > love for
>> > my goats, mules and horse to be able to graze; they are stuck on a dry
>> > lot
>> > eating a fortune in hay! Actually I really like my little house and
>> > horse
>> > property. I was lucky to find something that was affordable and in
>> > city
>> > limits. I even have bus access and can walk to some things. My
>> > neighborhood
>> > is very friendly and there are even people to ride with. I'll be happy
>> > where I
>> > am until the timing is right for me to move to the country.
>> >
>> > I can't wait to hear more about your farm and farming adventures.
>> >
>> > Congratulations!!!
>> >
>> > Nella
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Quoting "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> we are moving to the country! Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving
>> >> to a
>> >> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
>> >> chicken
>> >> coop. It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds redundant.
>> >> hahahahaha
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am so excited I am bursting. The whole property is fenced in so the
>> >> dogs
>> >> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
>> >> horses
>> >> too!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> JODY
>> >>
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>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 6
>> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:26:17 -0700
>> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
>> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>> > Message-ID: <1333571177.4f7cae697cb2b at webmail.extremezone.com>
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>> >
>> >
>> > Fred:
>> >
>> > Can you please tell us more about permaculture?
>> >
>> > Also can you recommend some good books or websites for me to read?
>> >
>> > My goal is to grow more of my food in a rather small place, so I'm
>> > trying
>> > to
>> > learn as much as possible.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Nella
>> >
>> > Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
>> >
>> >> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>> >> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>> >> gardens.
>> >> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all
>> >> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>> >>
>> >> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>> >> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>> >> Good luck!
>> >> Fred
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 7
>> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:42:10 -0700
>> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
>> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: [Ag-eq] baby goats
>> > Message-ID: <1333572130.4f7cb22285283 at webmail.extremezone.com>
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>> >
>> >
>> > Hi, I just wanted to tell every one about my baby goats. I think I
>> > mentioned in
>> > an earlier post that one of my doe goats was due in mid March. Well
>> > they
>> > arrived right on time; they were born March 11. She had healthy twin
>> > girls!
>> >
>> > The kids are Nubians, so they have long hound dog ears. I just can't
>> > get
>> > over
>> > how cute and fun they are. They are very curious and into everything.
>> > They
>> > act a lot like puppies, they run, jump, play and even chew on things.
>> > They
>> > have just started nibbling on the hay and grain.
>> >
>> > They are growing like weeds; they're probably twice their birth size.
>> > They're
>> > using most of the milk, we are getting very little for our use. She's
>> > producing a lot, so once I wean the kids there will be plenty. I've
>> > gotten
>> > enough milk to make some cheese and ice cream. Once I wean the kids I
>> > will
>> > make a lot more cheese.
>> >
>> > If any of you have goat questions please ask, I will answer to the best
>> > of
>> > my
>> > ability.
>> >
>> > Nella
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
>> >
>> >> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>> >> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>> >> gardens.
>> >> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all
>> >> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>> >>
>> >> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>> >> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>> >> Good luck!
>> >> Fred
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 8
>> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:23:27 -0400
>> > From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> > To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>> > Message-ID: <32838A9B936745179093C880F0A093E9 at ISC.local>
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>> >
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > Oh thank you all for all the advice. I am so glad I am on this list
>> > now.
>> >
>> > What is a permaculturalist?
>> >
>> > We will be living about 2 miles from two convenience stores but about
>> > 12
>> > miles from Sebring which is a nice sized town with lots of stores. I
>> > will
>> > be shopping with my husband Tom. Transportation there is non existant
>> > but
>> > the same is true for where I live now. Then there is the hhorse I will
>> > ride
>> > to the conventience stores. <GRIN>
>> >
>> > JODY
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 9
>> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:37:47 -0600
>> > From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> > Message-ID: <002b01cd134a$70d223e0$72341b3f at SuesComputer>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>> > reply-type=original
>> >
>> > LOL, the brown/white egg debate will go on until there are no chickens
>> > on
>> > earth. Personally, the only difference I can tell is between store
>> > baught
>> > and farm raised. Give me farm raised any day!
>> >
>> > Susan
>> > dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>> > To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:59 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Susan,
>> >>
>> >> Oh thank you. That is exactly the kind of advice I need. No, brown
>> >> or
>> >> white doesn't matter to me. It is funny, in New York the white are
>> >> more
>> >> expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
>> >> brown
>> >> ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
>> >>
>> >> JODY
>> >>
>> >>
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>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 10
>> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:56:22 -0600
>> > From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
>> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Subject: [Ag-eq] Gardening for your chickens
>> > Message-ID: <005001cd134d$08ed9590$72341b3f at SuesComputer>
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>> > reply-type=response
>> >
>> > Don't forget to feed some of your garden to your future chickens. I
>> > have
>> > not found one vegetable, fruit or natural organic material that my hens
>> > won't eat with gusto. Also, they will go after any small living
>> > creature
>> > that doesn't out run them. Bugs, crickets, grasshoppers, mice, frogs,
>> > lizards and snakes. We laugh about the hens in coop 2 that are Bard
>> > Rocks
>> > and Buff Orphingtons that do not have a rooster. They are a bit pushy
>> > without a rooster, so they can get a bit impatient at feeding time. My
>> > husband tells me to never fall down in the run before I feed them or I
>> > just
>> > might find myself on their dinner minue!
>> >
>> > Susan
>> > dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
>> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:08 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
>> >
>> >
>> >> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>> >> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>> >> gardens.
>> >> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all goes
>> >> well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>> >>
>> >> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>> >> keep
>> >> squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>> >> Good luck!
>> >> Fred
>> >>
>> >>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:49:06 -0600
> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Ag-eq] Straight from the Home Coop, with recipes
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> New York Times
> Straight From the Home Coop. By JULIA MOSKIN.
> FOR newly hatched chicken enthusiasts, the first egg from your own hens is
> a small miracle. You want to dip
> it in gold,' said the writer Susan Orlean, who keeps nine hens at her home
> in Columbia County, N.Y. Then comes the second egg: enough for a
> triumphant
> breakfast. But when the whole coop starts laying, she said, the supply of
> eggs quickly turns into an 'I Love Lucy'-style conveyor belt scene,
> bringing
> absurd, unmanageable excess. Ms. Orlean scrambles them into a pile for
> brunch or dinner, sprinkled with Indian spices, slivered almonds and
> unsweetened
> coconut. People will eat three and four eggs at a time that way, without
> blinking,' she said. It's not unusual for food lovers to toy with the
> notion of
> adding chickens to a thriving garden or building a rooftop coop. Now the
> novelty has become reality: despite coyotes, foxes and the occasional
> cage-break,
> many urbanites and suburbanites are raising their own eggs. And many small
> farmers who supply restaurants with produce have been expanding into
> poultry,
> making farm eggs ubiquitous on restaurant menus. The eggs that were once
> scrubbed from the standard American breakfast over concerns about
> cholesterol
> have made a triumphant return as high-end appetizers, served atop anything
> and everything. At the North End Grill, an ambitious new restaurant in
> Battery
> Park City, eggs rate their own section on the dinner menu. There are no
> hard numbers on how many people keep chickens, but hatcheries report a
> boom in
> business in the last five years. The recession has helped, the local food
> movement has helped and the green movement has helped,' said Paul
> Bradshaw, the
> owner of Greenfire Farms in Havana, Fla., who specializes in rare breeds
> like Swedish flower and French Marans, which lay lustrous chocolate-brown
> eggs
> that the writer Ian Fleming designated as the preferred breakfast of James
> Bond. Martha Stewart made chickens fashionable in the 1990s, showcasing
> pale
> blue and green eggs from her South American Araucanas in her magazine.
> Although egg color does not affect taste, it is an attraction; among Mr.
> Bradshaw's
> most desirable hens are British cream legbars, which lay bright, smooth
> blue eggs that sell in London's chic food markets for 1 euro each, or
> about $1.30.
> (A female legbar chick costs $99, compared with about $2 for a standard
> leghorn.) Internet commerce has made it easy to order hatching eggs and
> day-old
> chicks; Web sites, like those of Greenfire Farms and Murray McMurray
> Hatchery in Iowa, have live video and gorgeous photos of birds, plumage
> and vividly
> colored eggs. It's my new J. Crew catalog,' said Jana Martin, a writer who
> lives outside Woodstock, N.Y., and started raising Buff Orpington hens
> last
> year. Keeping chickens is legal in many cities and has taken off as part
> of the urban farming movement. JustFood, a nonprofit group that encourages
> sustainable
> and local agriculture, has an educational program called City Chicken,
> which teaches the basics to New Yorkers: since 2007, the classes have
> routinely
> filled up and the schedule is constantly expanding. In the spring, you can
> watch the color of the yolks deepen from week to week, and the taste
> changes,
> too,' said Cathy Erway, a graduate of the program who keeps hens on a
> rooftop in Red Hook, Brooklyn. (For those who want to keep hens inside an
> apartment,
> Mr. Bradshaw recommends the Olandsk dwarf hen, about the size of a
> grapefruit, which lays eggs that fry up to the size of a silver-dollar
> pancake.) In
> the last month, backyard chickens across the country have begun laying
> again. Left to their own rhythms, hens slow down or stop laying eggs
> altogether
> in the winter, because their reproductive cycle is linked to daylight. For
> centuries, the simultaneous return of eggs and the sun was seen as a
> quasi-magical
> coincidence; it is no wonder eggs are central to ancient spring
> celebrations like Easter, Passover and Nowruz, the Persian New Year, which
> begins on the
> spring equinox. At this time of year, the difficulty becomes not so much
> keeping the hens, but keeping up with them. In high season, a good layer
> like
> a Rhode Island red or leghorn can lay an egg every day. Ms. Erway uses up
> the eggs by making lunch for the staff at Sixpoint Brewery, where she
> works.
> I put sliced hard-boiled eggs in banh mi,' she said, referring to the
> French-Vietnamese baguette sandwiches, stuffed with pickled vegetables and
> red chile
> sauce. And I'm Chinese-American, so it's second nature for me to add an
> egg or two if I'm stir-frying rice or noodles. You have to get creative,'
> said
> Ian Knauer, a food writer who had 18 laying hens last year on his family's
> farm in Pennsylvania. For Mr. Knauer, who lives alone in Brooklyn and
> tends
> the farm on weekends with his family, that meant almost eight dozen eggs a
> week. When they start piling up, I get out the big jar,' he said. Beets
> and
> eggs, pickled together in a hot-pink brine, are a standard Pennsylvania
> Dutch recipe Mr. Knauer has adapted into a watercress and egg salad, using
> a spoonful
> of shallot-scented brine in the vinaigrette. In a new book, 'The Farm,' he
> chronicles a year of cooking with mostly farm-grown ingredients, including
> a
> simple dinner of soft-boiled eggs with peppery greens, ricotta and black
> walnuts from trees around the farmhouse. The Knauers have farmed in
> Knauertown
> since the 18th century and, like most farmers, have always kept a flock of
> chickens. But from the 1920s to the 1950s, egg farming became specialized.
> Electric
> lighting meant that lights could be kept on day and night, so hens never
> stopped laying; refrigeration meant that eggs could be kept fresh for
> weeks and
> transported around the country. By the 1970s, eggs had become a standard
> supermarket item with no particular season, region or source attached.
> Enter the
> real-food revolution, and the notion that raising your own food brought
> ethical, nutritional and culinary advantages. Knowing you can raise your
> own eggs
> quite easily makes factory farms seem even more unnecessary,' Ms. Martin
> said. For cooks like her, eggs are particularly helpful in the effort to
> nudge
> meat away from the center of the plate. This is the time of year when I
> start looking through old cookbooks to see what the farm wives would do,'
> said
> Kristin Hernandez, who keeps a dozen hens in her backyard in Austin, Tex.
> Her roommates are all vegetarian or vegan, she said, but even the vegans
> eat
> the house-raised eggs because they know that the birds are healthy and
> well cared for. They are like pets who happen to bring us breakfast,' she
> said.
> Although organic and free-range eggs are now widely available, they do not
> always taste different from the standard commercial product; home-raised
> eggs
> have noticeably better flavor and texture. The yolks of eggs from
> well-fed, well-exercised hens are as orange-yellow as a New York taxi.
> They have what
> Mr. Bradshaw calls 'muscle tone': thick walls and a rich, intense taste.
> The whites are never runny, and they stand up immediately when you whip
> them,'
> Ms. Martin said. Even plain scrambled eggs are different: they have a
> sweetness, a freshness and a richness to them. Then there is the question
> of age.
> Eggs can be sold commercially for up to 45 days after they are packed, so
> long as they are kept refrigerated, according to Agriculture Department
> regulations.
> (Eggs keep well until washed for market, because they have a natural
> coating that is sterile and waterproof.) But those who raise chickens say
> that the
> flavor -- with nuances of grass, earth, nuts and of course, chicken -- is
> at its peak when the egg is first laid, before it is refrigerated.
> Jennifer Trainer
> Thompson, who works at the Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art, has
> just published 'The Fresh Egg Cookbook,' an outgrowth of keeping a dozen
> hens
> at her home in Williamstown. I wasn't thinking of the culinary
> opportunities at first,' she said. She saw the chickens more as an outdoor
> activity and
> teaching tool for her kids. But as the eggs mounted up, she began trolling
> through cookbooks and consulting family and friends for recipes using
> multiple
> eggs. An ideal post-Easter recipe, from her Midwestern mother-in-law, is a
> breakfast casserole that calls for 18 hard-boiled eggs, baked with cheese
> sauce
> and topped with crumbled bacon. (For the best results when peeling
> hard-boiled eggs, start with eggs that are not freshly laid, but have been
> refrigerated
> for a week or more.) Her Mediterranean take on a weeknight dinner is
> poached eggs, served over thick yogurt with toasted pita bread and a
> trickle of hot,
> herb-infused butter. For Joe Dizney, a Web designer in the Hudson Valley,
> living with a flock of Australorp hens has left a different imprint. He'll
> break
> an egg into simmering beef stews and bean soups, fry a couple in butter to
> top sauteed spring greens like the red-veined sorrel he bought at a recent
> farmers'
> market, and coddle them to serve with the wild mushrooms he gathers in the
> woods near his house. 'Put an egg on it,' ' he said. That's become my
> mantra.
> Recipe: Poached Eggs With Mint and Yogurt Adapted from 'The Fresh Egg
> Cookbook' by Jennifer Trainer Thompson (Storey Publishing) Time: About 1
> hour 1 cup
> plain Greek yogurt, 2 percent milk fat or whole 1 small garlic clove,
> finely minced Salt and freshly ground black pepper 4 tablespoons butter 6
> fresh mint
> leaves 1/2 teaspoon smoked paprika 1/2 teaspoon hot red-pepper flakes 1
> tablespoon white vinegar 8 eggs Toasted pita bread or another flatbread,
> for serving.
> 1. In a small bowl, stir the yogurt and garlic together. Season to taste
> with salt and pepper and set aside for 30 minutes to 1 hour. 2. When ready
> to
> cook, use a large spoon to divide the yogurt on four serving plates,
> making large dollops. Use the back of a spoon to spread each dollop into a
> large oval,
> big enough to hold two eggs. 3. In a saucepan, melt the butter over medium
> heat until it foams. Add mint, paprika and red pepper flakes and stir
> until
> fragrant. Turn off the heat and keep warm. 4. In a large, deep skillet,
> combine two inches of water and the vinegar. Bring to a simmer. Crack the
> eggs
> gently into the water. Simmer until softly cooked, about 3 minutes. Using
> a slotted spoon, lift eggs out one at a time, holding a paper towel under
> the
> spoon to avoid dripping water onto the yogurt. Place two eggs on each
> plateful of yogurt. Remove mint leaves from the warm spiced butter, then
> use a spoon
> to drizzle butter over the eggs. Grind black pepper onto each egg, and
> serve immediately with hot toasted pita bread. Yield: 4 servings Recipe:
> Lemon Pudding
> Cake Adapted from 'The Farm,' by Ian Knauer (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt)
> Time: 1 hour 4 large eggs, separated 1 teaspoon finely grated lemon zest
> 1/3 cup
> lemon juice 1 tablespoon unsalted butter, melted 1 cup sugar 1/2 cup
> all-purpose flour 1/2 teaspoon kosher salt 1 1/2 cups whole milk. 1. Place
> a large
> roasting pan on a rack in the center of the oven. Fill the pan halfway
> with water. With the pan inside, heat the oven to 350 degrees. Butter an
> 8-inch
> square or round baking dish. 2. In a large bowl, whisk together the egg
> yolks, lemon zest, lemon juice and butter. In another bowl, stir together
> the sugar,
> flour and salt. Whisk half the flour mixture into the egg yolks, then half
> the milk. Whisk in remaining flour mixture, then remaining milk. 3. Whip
> the
> egg whites until soft peaks form, then gently fold them into the batter.
> 4. Pour batter into the buttered dish. Place the dish in the pan of water
> in the
> oven. Bake until the cake is set, about 45 minutes. Yield: 6 to 8
> servings. Recipe: Soft-Boiled Eggs With Watercress and Walnut-Ricotta
> Crostini 3 tablespoons
> unsalted butter 4 slices sourdough or other chewy bread 1/2 cup walnut
> pieces 1/2 cup fresh ricotta or farmer cheese 2 tablespoons lemon juice
> Salt and
> freshly ground black pepper 4 cold eggs 2 cups watercress Extra-virgin
> olive oil or walnut oil, for serving. 1. In a large heavy skillet, melt
> two tablespoons
> of the butter over medium heat. Add the bread slices and toast, turning
> occasionally, until both sides are well browned, 3 to 4 minutes. (Reduce
> heat as
> needed to prevent scorching.) 2. Remove the bread and add the remaining
> tablespoon butter to the skillet. Add the walnuts and toast them,
> stirring, until
> lightly browned, about 3 minutes. Transfer walnuts to a food processor and
> let cool. Add ricotta, 1 tablespoon lemon juice and 1/2 teaspoon each salt
> and
> pepper. Pulse just until well combined. 3. Place the eggs in a small
> saucepan and cover with lukewarm water. (Hot water on cold eggs will crack
> the shells.)
> Over high heat, bring the water just to a boil. Immediately turn off the
> heat, cover the pan and let stand for 2 minutes. Transfer the pot to the
> sink
> and run cold water over the eggs for about 30 seconds. Peel the eggs under
> cold running water. 4. In a bowl, toss watercress with the remaining
> tablespoon
> lemon juice and salt and pepper to taste. Spread walnut ricotta evenly
> over the toasts, then top with watercress. Place 1 egg on each toast and
> grind pepper
> on top. Using a small, sharp knife, gently cut each egg open to break the
> yolk, letting it run down to dress the watercress. Drizzle with oil, if
> using,
> and serve. Yield: 2 servings. Recipe: MJ's Egg Casserole 4 tablespoons
> butter, plus extra for buttering pan 1/4 cup unbleached all-purpose flour
> 1 cup
> cream 1 cup milk 2 cups shredded sharp Cheddar, lightly packed 1/4 cup
> chopped fresh flat-leaf parsley 1/4 teaspoon dried marjoram 1/4 teaspoon
> dried thyme
> 1/8 teaspoon garlic powder Pinch cayenne 18 hard boiled eggs, peeled and
> thinly sliced 1 pound bacon, cooked, drained of fat and crumbled Toast,
> for serving.
> 1. Heat the oven to 350 degrees and butter a 9-by-13-inch baking dish. 2.
> In a saucepan, melt the butter over medium heat until it foams. Whisk in
> the
> flour until smooth. Lower the heat and slowly pour in the cream and milk.
> Heat until steaming, whisking often. Add the cheese and whisk until
> melted. Add
> the parsley, marjoram, thyme, garlic powder and cayenne. 3. In the
> prepared dish, make layers of egg slices, bacon and sauce, ending with
> sauce. Cover
> and bake 40 minutes. (To make ahead, refrigerate covered casserole
> overnight. Remove from the refrigerator 1 hour before baking, and add 20
> minutes to
> baking time.) Let rest 5 to 10 minutes before serving with hot toast.
> Yield: 8 to 10 servings. PHOTOS: NESTED: Soft-boiled eggs, with watercress
> on crostini,
> show off the brilliant color of yolks from well-fed hens. (PHOTOGRAPH BY
> RACHEL BARRETT FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES)(D1); HEN FRUIT: Jennifer Trainer
> Thompson
> prepares thick yogurt to accompany poached eggs; Paul Bradshaw, the owner
> of Greenfire Farms in Havana, Fla., with a Bielefelder chicken; once eggs
> start
> piling up, Ian Knauer pickles them in a hot-pink brine with beets. Another
> recipe is soft-boiled eggs on crostini. (PHOTOGRAPHS BY NATHANIEL BROOKS
> FOR
> THE NEW YORK TIMES; MARK WALLHEISER FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES; RACHEL BARRETT
> FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES)(D7) .
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:38:47 -0600
> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
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> Why not green eggs? Then you can have green eggs and ham! LOL
> I was thinking about getting a few Americanas or Aracanas just to have the
> novelty of pastel colored eggs and putting one in each dozen carton for a
> surprise to my customers. I haven't talked Matt into that yet.
>
> Susan
> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
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> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:21 AM
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>
>> Susan:
>>
>> I'm with you; I don't think the brown or white taste different. I do
>> like
>> my
>> howm grown eggs much better. I'm told that the yoke of farm fresh eggs
>> is
>> brighter than store eggs.
>>
>> Have you ever had any of the chickens that lay eggs with green shells?
>>
>> I know it's just in my mind, but I don't want to eat green eggs!
>>
>> Nella
>>
>> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>>
>>> LOL, the brown/white egg debate will go on until there are no chickens
>>> on
>>> earth. Personally, the only difference I can tell is between store
>>> baught
>>> and farm raised. Give me farm raised any day!
>>>
>>> Susan
>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
>>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi Susan,
>>> >
>>> > Oh thank you. That is exactly the kind of advice I need. No, brown
>>> > or
>>> > white doesn't matter to me. It is funny, in New York the white are
>>> > more
>>> > expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
>>> > brown
>>> > ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
>>> >
>>> > JODY
>>> >
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:49:03 -0600
> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Gardening for your chickens
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> A good treet for your hens is a head of cabbage and watermellon rines.
> Mine
> can strip a half of watermelon rine down to the thinnest skin in a day.
> We
> were told to give them a head of cabbage about once a month or so to keep
> them from being board. If they are not occupied, they tend to pick on the
> weekest among themselves and will actually peck a hen to death. They also
> like young corn stalks about 3 feet tall. Always give your hens corn
> shucks, they go after them like potato chips.
>
> Susan
> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
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> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Gardening for your chickens
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>
>> Susan:
>>
>> My chickens will not eat any part of citrus fruit. They will eat
>> everything
>> else. The goats and mules love citrus fruit, so nothing ever goes to
>> waste.
>>
>> Most people around here including myself, have some type of citrus tree,
>> so
>> there's always lots of oranges and grape fruits available. A couple of
>> neighbors give me fruit for the animals. My old mule Jack loves to chase
>> grape
>> fruits around!
>>
>> Nella
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
>>
>>> Don't forget to feed some of your garden to your future chickens. I
>>> have
>>> not found one vegetable, fruit or natural organic material that my hens
>>> won't eat with gusto. Also, they will go after any small living
>>> creature
>>> that doesn't out run them. Bugs, crickets, grasshoppers, mice, frogs,
>>> lizards and snakes. We laugh about the hens in coop 2 that are Bard
>>> Rocks
>>> and Buff Orphingtons that do not have a rooster. They are a bit pushy
>>> without a rooster, so they can get a bit impatient at feeding time. My
>>> husband tells me to never fall down in the run before I feed them or I
>>> just
>>> might find myself on their dinner minue!
>>>
>>> Susan
>>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
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>>> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
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>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:08 PM
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>>>
>>>
>>> > Ya, Kendra has good advice.
>>> > I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
>>> > gardens.
>>> > If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins! If all goes
>>> > well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
>>> >
>>> > I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins. If your dogs can
>>> > keep
>>> > squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
>>> > Good luck!
>>> > Fred
>>> >
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