[Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 3

Sat Apr 7 14:57:33 UTC 2012

Kendra:

I've never visited the north west, but hear that it is beautiful.  It would
certainly be nice to get more rain than we have in Phoenix.  If I didn't water
nothing but cactus would live here.

I have good luck with tomatoes, squash, egg plant and peppers during the summer.
 During the fall and early spring I can grow lettuce, spinach, cabbage, broccoli
and carrots.

Can you grow most vegetables in your climate?

Yes, you are right about chickens in city limits.  I believe Phoenix will allow
you to have up to 20, but the coop has to be a certain distance from the
property line and your neighbors homes.  My area is zoned for residential and
agriculture, so our laws are a little different.  Legally people are not
suppose to keep roosters in the city limits, but I still hear them.  Personally
I like the sound, but I know some people don't.  I don't keep a rooster; I don't
need one and I don't want any complaints.

Nella

Quoting Kendra Schaber <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>:

> Hi all, The rain in the vallies of Oregon keeps the plants green and happy
> and the snow in the mountains keeps us away from drouts. The rain has to
> fall each year in its correct timing for this water cycle to work right. We
> have rivers, lakes and many smaller bodies of water as a result. Most
> Oregonians don't like all of the rain in the winter but that doesn't keep us
> from keeping our daily jobs and living our daily lives. Most of the
> Oregonians who do like the rain are ones who follow the seasons and the
> weather patterns and the ones who depends on nature for everything to run
> smoothly like gardeners for example. I am a gardener and I follow the
> seasons so I would go more crazy without enough rain fall or rain fall that
> is not in its correct timing than I would with it.
>       As for chickens, make sure to checdk the local city laws before you
> start up a city chicken coop. I understand that Salem, Oregon ressedents who
> wants to have a chicken coop can only have three chickens in their chicken
> coops. Most of my gardener friends and I think that the law is a little
> restricting. Just a head's up for those who are on this mailing list and who
> lives in the city who also is looking into raising chickens. That artical
> was still interesting! I didn't know that there are chickens that can make
> pastell-colored eggs! Why not have some in a chicken coop in time to
> celebrate Easter?
> Kendra Schaber
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> >   1. Re: baby goats (Susan Roe)
> >   2. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >   3. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >   4. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2 (Kendra Schaber)
> >   5. Re: baby goats (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >   6. Re: Gardening for your chickens (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >   7. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2 (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >   8. Straight from the Home Coop, with recipes (Susan Roe)
> >   9. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
> >  10. Re: Gardening for your chickens (Susan Roe)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:05:18 -0600
> > From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] baby goats
> > Message-ID: <007f01cd134e$48b76dd0$72341b3f at SuesComputer>
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> >
> > Oh how cute Nella!  If all goes well this year, we will get our first doe
> > in
> > November and she will already have been seasoned.  She would then kid in
> > February or March.  I still want the doe to be a
> > Toggenburg like Homer my wheither is.
> >
> >
> >
> > When will you start weening the babies from their mama?
> >
> >
> >
> > Susan
> >
> > dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:42 PM
> > Subject: [Ag-eq] baby goats
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Hi, I just wanted to tell every one about my baby goats.  I think I
> >> mentioned in
> >> an earlier post that one of my doe goats was due in mid March.  Well they
> >> arrived right on time; they were born March 11.  She had healthy twin
> >> girls!
> >>
> >> The kids are Nubians, so they have long hound dog ears.  I just can't get
> >> over
> >> how cute and fun they are.  They are very curious and into everything.
> >> They
> >> act a lot like puppies, they run, jump, play and even chew on things.
> >> They
> >> have just started nibbling on the hay and grain.
> >>
> >> They are growing like weeds; they're probably twice their birth size.
> >> They're
> >> using most of the milk, we are getting very little for our use.  She's
> >> producing a lot, so once I wean the kids there will be plenty.  I've
> >> gotten
> >> enough milk to make some cheese and ice cream.  Once I wean the kids I
> >> will
> >> make a lot more cheese.
> >>
> >> If any of you have goat questions please ask, I will answer to the best
> >> of
> >> my
> >> ability.
> >>
> >> Nella
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
> >>
> >>> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >>> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >>> gardens.
> >>> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all
> >>> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >>>
> >>> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >>> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >>> Good luck!
> >>> Fred
> >>>
> >>>
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:21:20 -0700
> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> > Message-ID: <1333646480.4f7dd490bcaa0 at webmail.extremezone.com>
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> > Susan:
> >
> > I'm with you; I don't think the brown or white taste different.  I do like
> > my
> > howm grown eggs much better.  I'm told that the yoke of farm fresh eggs is
> > brighter than store eggs.
> >
> > Have you ever had any of the chickens that lay eggs with green shells?
> >
> > I know it's just in my mind, but I don't want to eat green eggs!
> >
> > Nella
> >
> > Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
> >
> >> LOL, the brown/white egg debate will go on until there are no chickens on
> >> earth.  Personally, the only difference I can tell is between store
> >> baught
> >> and farm raised.  Give me farm raised any day!
> >>
> >> Susan
> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:59 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi Susan,
> >> >
> >> > Oh thank you.  That is exactly the kind of advice I need.  No, brown or
> >> > white doesn't matter to me.  It is funny, in New York the white are
> >> > more
> >> > expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
> >> > brown
> >> > ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
> >> >
> >> > JODY
> >> >
> >> >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:34:14 -0700
> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
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> >
> > Jody:
> >
> > You don't know how many times I've thought of putting the pack saddle on
> > one of
> > the mules and hiking the mile and a half to the grocery store!
> >
> > Even though I can take the bus to the store, I usually pay a friend to
> > drive and
> > shop with me.  I used to take the bus to the store buy a lot of groceries
> > and
> > bring a cab home.  I find that I save both money and time when shopping
> > with my
> > friend.  She has a family, actually cooks and knows how to bargain shop.
> > The
> > teenagers working at the store know none of these things!
> >
> > Sometimes I will go and pick up a few items on my own, but for the big
> > shopping
> > trips, I'd rather pay an assistant.  I rarely shop with Mike; it's
> > something we
> > don't do well together!
> >
> > Nella
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Oh thank you all for all the advice.  I am so glad I am on this list now.
> >>
> >> What is a permaculturalist?
> >>
> >> We will be living about 2 miles from two convenience stores but about 12
> >> miles from Sebring which is a nice sized town with lots of stores.  I
> >> will
> >> be shopping with my husband Tom.  Transportation there is non existant
> >> but
> >> the same is true for where I live now.  Then there is the hhorse I will
> >> ride
> >> to the conventience stores.  <GRIN>
> >>
> >> JODY
> >>
> >>
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:37:06 -0700
> > From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
> > To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
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> >
> > Hi all, permiculture is a portmentoe on horticulture and perminent. A
> > permiculturists is someone who practices permiculture in their gardens.
> > Permiculture itself is the practice in gardening of growing edable plants
> > next to flowers that are compatable with each other and also benifit each
> > other in some way also in the smallest space that each plant can grow in
> > without getting root bound or cramped in any way, shape or form. There are
> > many resources on the internet for ideas. Google is a good place to start.
> > I
> > do most of my plant research through Google searches. There is
> > Horticulture
> > Magazine and a whole section of gardening books on BARD, Better Home and
> > Gardens on Newsline, gardening books on Learning Alley and I'm sure that
> > there are more gardening books elsewhere on the accessable format book
> > market for ideas. There is one book that isn't anywhere on the accessable
> > format book market that is a really good resource for gardeners is called
> > The Western Book of Gardening, the 2006 addition by Sunset Publishing. I
> > have hunted for that book for at least a month last year but had no luck.
> > I
> > needed it because it was required for my education at Sunnyside Organics
> > which is the place that I currently work at. I looked at the resources
> > that
> > I had and had a friend look for it it the resources that she had and I
> > even
> > contacted the publisher who sent me back to the NLS who I checked with on
> > all levels twice before but not a corner of that book was found anywhere
> > on
> > the accessable format book market. I have to borrow a pair of eyes if I
> > wish
> > to get information from that particular book. When I am at home, I use the
> > internet, the two magazines that I listed above or other books to gain
> > simular information. As for wishis about rain, I live in Oregon which gets
> > a
> > lot of rain during the fall, winter and spring. If you wish to get more
> > rain, how about looking to the northwest to live in? Most Oregonians get
> > sick and tired of the rain.
> > Kendra Schaber
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
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> > Subject: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
> >
> >
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> >>
> >>   1. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Kendra Schaber)
> >>   2. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >>   3. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >>   4. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Fred's ol' XP)
> >>   5. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >>   6. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >>   7. baby goats (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >>   8. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
> >>   9. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
> >>  10. Gardening for your chickens (Susan Roe)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:11:50 -0700
> >> From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
> >> To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> Message-ID: <3661C3C9FF79497F9C49A96FE6551694 at your90477e8f53>
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> >> reply-type=original
> >>
> >> Hi JODY, congradulationce! You are planning on growing beans, corn and
> >> water
> >> mellon? I know that the Native Americans grew beans, corn and squash
> >> together in kind of like try-pods because one provided shelter to the
> >> others
> >> but they each gave the other plants within that try-pod something that
> >> each
> >> could benifit from. If you checked out permiculture, then you will find
> >> other plants that grow best together with the smallest amount of space so
> >> that way, you can have even more plants on your garden space.
> >> Kendra Schaber
> >> ----- Original Message -----
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> >> Subject: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >>
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> >>>   1. Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
> >>>   2. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
> >>>   3. Re: Dream come true (Fred's ol' XP)
> >>>   4. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
> >>>   5. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
> >>>   6. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
> >>>   7. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:04:15 -0400
> >>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>> Message-ID: <6DEB0A5A25184AB6AEDC4A2C35CE0BFF at ISC.local>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> we are moving to the country!  Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving to
> >>> a
> >>> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
> >>> chicken
> >>> coop.  It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds redundant.
> >>> hahahahaha
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am so excited I am bursting.  The whole property is fenced in so the
> >>> dogs
> >>> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
> >>> horses
> >>> too!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> JODY
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:20:47 -0600
> >>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> >>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>> Message-ID: <002401cd11ce$e16c03a0$48301b3f at SuesComputer>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> >>> reply-type=original
> >>>
> >>> Jody,
> >>> How wonderful for you!  I feel almost excited as you do and here is to
> >>> hoping you can make a few of those dreams come true!  LOL
> >>>
> >>> Susan
> >>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:04 PM
> >>> Subject: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> we are moving to the country!  Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving to
> >>>> a
> >>>> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
> >>>> chicken
> >>>> coop.  It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds redundant.
> >>>> hahahahaha
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am so excited I am bursting.  The whole property is fenced in so the
> >>>> dogs
> >>>> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
> >>>> horses
> >>>> too!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> JODY
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 3
> >>> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:34:27 -0700
> >>> From: Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> >>> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>> Message-ID: <E1SF9W2-0002zR-LQ at elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> >>>
> >>> Ya,
> >>> Sounds wonderful!
> >>> How is transportation in that area?
> >>> You'll get lots of rain, right?
> >>> What do you hope to grow?
> >>>
> >>> Fred Chambers
> >>> Carlsbad, CA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 4
> >>> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:19:25 -0400
> >>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>> Message-ID: <52FF317BA0404E0C8880B67184386897 at ISC.local>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>
> >>> Hello susan,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you so much.  You will have to teach me all about chickens and
> >>> horses.
> >>> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a farm
> >>> says
> >>> it isn't finished.  What does a coop include?
> >>>
> >>> JODY
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 5
> >>> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:20:39 -0400
> >>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>> Message-ID: <4E47E3D0EE3240D2B3552133D648620C at ISC.local>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>
> >>> Hi Fred,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.  We will be in central Florida so we can grow all year except
> >>> the
> >>> middle of the summer when it is too hot.  I was thinking corn, lots of
> >>> different kinds of beans and water melon.
> >>>
> >>> JODY
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 6
> >>> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:26:11 -0600
> >>> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> >>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>> Message-ID: <003301cd11e8$c79c0c30$48301b3f at SuesComputer>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> >>> reply-type=original
> >>>
> >>> I will be more than happy to talk to you till the cows come home about
> >>> chickens!  Inside the coop you will need some sort of nest boxes and a
> >>> few
> >>> pirches because there will be a few hens and a rooster if you get one,
> >>> that
> >>> will prefer to pirch at night instead of occupying a nest box.  We have
> >>> one
> >>> or two windows in each coop for light and air circulation with heavy
> >>> gage
> >>> screen over them.  I have 3 coops that ar 5 by 12 feet and 6 feet high
> >>> inside.  Each coop has a fenced in run attached to the front that is 12
> >>> foot
> >>> squared with chicken wire fencing all around and over the top.  There
> >>> are
> >>> way too many hunting dogs that pass through our 60 acres and a healthy
> >>> farel
> >>> cat population that has been here for about 50 years.
> >>>
> >>> Check out your coop and let me know what it looks like.
> >>>
> >>> Does it matter to you if you have brown or white eggs?  It doesn't to
> >>> me,
> >>> however, my husband and customers only want brown, so needless to say,
> >>> all
> >>> of my 3 breeds are brown egg layers.
> >>>
> >>> I am hoping to get another 20 hens by the end of the month.  I really
> >>> want
> >>> to get Red Stars or Rhode Island Reds, but the further April gets the
> >>> less
> >>> choice I may have.  I will probably end up with a mixed hen assortment,
> >>> but
> >>> as long as they lay large brown eggs I can't complain too much.
> >>>
> >>> Susan
> >>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello susan,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you so much.  You will have to teach me all about chickens and
> >>>> horses.
> >>>> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a farm
> >>>> says
> >>>> it isn't finished.  What does a coop include?
> >>>>
> >>>> JODY
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Ag-eq mailing list
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> >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/ag-eq_nfbnet.org
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 7
> >>> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:59:02 -0400
> >>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>> Message-ID: <848BEEBA779445659DF4BC4F996F85F5 at ISC.local>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>
> >>> Hi Susan,
> >>>
> >>> Oh thank you.  That is exactly the kind of advice I need.  No, brown or
> >>> white doesn't matter to me.  It is funny, in New York the white are more
> >>> expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
> >>> brown
> >>> ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
> >>>
> >>> JODY
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Ag-eq mailing list
> >>> Ag-eq at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/ag-eq_nfbnet.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> End of Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >>> ************************************
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:58:26 -0700
> >> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> Message-ID: <1333569506.4f7ca7e2bacb2 at webmail.extremezone.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> Jody:
> >>
> >> I don't know what your temperatures are there, but my biggest concern is
> >> shade
> >> and air circulation.  I know Florida can get very hot and it is a lot
> >> more
> >> humid than Arizona.
> >>
> >> I keep my chickens in a 15 by 30 chain link run, with bird netting across
> >> the
> >> top.  There's a tree on the outside that gives shade and I have 2 A frame
> >> structures that are open on the ends; these have pirches half way up.  I
> >> often
> >> find the hens just pirching on top of them.  I also have a hen coop that
> >> looks
> >> like a barn, it's 4 by 4; this is where I keep the nest boxes.  There are
> >> also
> >> pirches in there, but I never see them on them.  This structure is about
> >> 3
> >> feet
> >> off the ground and the hens like getting under it when it's really hot.
> >> There
> >> are doors on each side of the top part, so I can easily clean it.  There
> >> are
> >> also some vents along the edge of the roof for air flow.  The only time I
> >> find
> >> the girls roosting in the fancy barn coop is on the few cold nights that
> >> we
> >> have!
> >>
> >> I tried to choose lighter bodied hens since I think they handle the heat
> >> better.
> >> I have 3 barred rocks and 3 cinnomon queens; they are a little smaller
> >> than
> >> Road Island Reds.  These breeds lay brown eggs.  All of mine are quite
> >> docile
> >> and seem to have no nesting instincts; this makes gathering the eggs
> >> easy!
> >>
> >> Please keep us posted on your progress and feel free to ask questions.  I
> >> learned much of what I know from Susan, so she's probably a better
> >> resource!
> >> There is a very good discussion forum at www.backyardchickens.com
> >>
> >> Good luck.
> >>
> >> Nella
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
> >>
> >>> I will be more than happy to talk to you till the cows come home about
> >>> chickens!  Inside the coop you will need some sort of nest boxes and a
> >>> few
> >>> pirches because there will be a few hens and a rooster if you get one,
> >>> that
> >>> will prefer to pirch at night instead of occupying a nest box.  We have
> >>> one
> >>> or two windows in each coop for light and air circulation with heavy
> >>> gage
> >>> screen over them.  I have 3 coops that ar 5 by 12 feet and 6 feet high
> >>> inside.  Each coop has a fenced in run attached to the front that is 12
> >>> foot
> >>> squared with chicken wire fencing all around and over the top.  There
> >>> are
> >>> way too many hunting dogs that pass through our 60 acres and a healthy
> >>> farel
> >>> cat population that has been here for about 50 years.
> >>>
> >>> Check out your coop and let me know what it looks like.
> >>>
> >>> Does it matter to you if you have brown or white eggs?  It doesn't to
> >>> me,
> >>> however, my husband and customers only want brown, so needless to say,
> >>> all
> >>> of my 3 breeds are brown egg layers.
> >>>
> >>> I am hoping to get another 20 hens by the end of the month.  I really
> >>> want
> >>> to get Red Stars or Rhode Island Reds, but the further April gets the
> >>> less
> >>> choice I may have.  I will probably end up with a mixed hen assortment,
> >>> but
> >>> as long as they lay large brown eggs I can't complain too much.
> >>>
> >>> Susan
> >>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hello susan,
> >>> >
> >>> > Thank you so much.  You will have to teach me all about chickens and
> >>> > horses.
> >>> > There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a
> >>> > farm
> >>> > says
> >>> > it isn't finished.  What does a coop include?
> >>> >
> >>> > JODY
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > Ag-eq mailing list
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> >>> > Ag-eq:
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> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:03:00 -0700
> >> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> Message-ID: <1333569780.4f7ca8f48fe03 at webmail.extremezone.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> Jody:
> >>
> >> I'll be happy to answer any questions I can.  I have some experience with
> >> chickens, gardening and quite a lot of horse experience.  I grew up on a
> >> farm,
> >> so know a little about cows and other farm topics.
> >>
> >> You're are going to have so much fun putting your little farm together!
> >>
> >> Nella
> >>
> >> Quoting "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
> >>
> >>> Hello susan,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you so much.  You will have to teach me all about chickens and
> >>> horses.
> >>> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a farm
> >>> says
> >>> it isn't finished.  What does a coop include?
> >>>
> >>> JODY
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Ag-eq mailing list
> >>> Ag-eq at nfbnet.org
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> >>> Ag-eq:
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:08:47 -0700
> >> From: Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> >> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> Message-ID: <E1SFWVi-0005OL-1G at elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> >>
> >> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >> gardens.
> >> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all
> >> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >>
> >> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >> Good luck!
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:18:00 -0700
> >> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> Message-ID: <1333570680.4f7cac78eb25b at webmail.extremezone.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> Jody:
> >>
> >> I'm so jealous; you're so lucky!!!
> >>
> >> I know you must be very, very excited.  Please tell us more about it and
> >> how it
> >> all happened.
> >>
> >> Do you have stalls and a barn?
> >>
> >> Will you be close to where you are now?
> >>
> >> How far will you be from town and what kind of transportation is
> >> available.
> >>
> >> I wish I could live some where with rain, not in the middle of the
> >> desert.
> >> A
> >> ponbd, I've almost forgotten what a body of water looks like!  I would
> >> love for
> >> my goats, mules and horse to be able to graze; they are stuck on a dry
> >> lot
> >> eating a fortune in hay!  Actually I really like my little house and
> >> horse
> >> property.  I was lucky to find something that was affordable and in city
> >> limits.  I even have bus access and can walk to some things.  My
> >> neighborhood
> >> is very friendly and there are even people to ride with.  I'll be happy
> >> where I
> >> am until the timing is right for me to move to the country.
> >>
> >> I can't wait to hear more about your farm and farming adventures.
> >>
> >> Congratulations!!!
> >>
> >> Nella
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> we are moving to the country!  Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving to
> >>> a
> >>> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
> >>> chicken
> >>> coop.  It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds redundant.
> >>> hahahahaha
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am so excited I am bursting.  The whole property is fenced in so the
> >>> dogs
> >>> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
> >>> horses
> >>> too!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> JODY
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> Ag-eq:
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:26:17 -0700
> >> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> Message-ID: <1333571177.4f7cae697cb2b at webmail.extremezone.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >>
> >> Fred:
> >>
> >> Can you please tell us more about permaculture?
> >>
> >> Also can you recommend some good books or websites for me to read?
> >>
> >> My goal is to grow more of my food in a rather small place, so I'm trying
> >> to
> >> learn as much as possible.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Nella
> >>
> >> Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
> >>
> >>> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >>> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >>> gardens.
> >>> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all
> >>> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >>>
> >>> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >>> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >>> Good luck!
> >>> Fred
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Ag-eq mailing list
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> >>> Ag-eq:
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:42:10 -0700
> >> From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: [Ag-eq] baby goats
> >> Message-ID: <1333572130.4f7cb22285283 at webmail.extremezone.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi, I just wanted to tell every one about my baby goats.  I think I
> >> mentioned in
> >> an earlier post that one of my doe goats was due in mid March.  Well they
> >> arrived right on time; they were born March 11.  She had healthy twin
> >> girls!
> >>
> >> The kids are Nubians, so they have long hound dog ears.  I just can't get
> >> over
> >> how cute and fun they are.  They are very curious and into everything.
> >> They
> >> act a lot like puppies, they run, jump, play and even chew on things.
> >> They
> >> have just started nibbling on the hay and grain.
> >>
> >> They are growing like weeds; they're probably twice their birth size.
> >> They're
> >> using most of the milk, we are getting very little for our use.  She's
> >> producing a lot, so once I wean the kids there will be plenty.  I've
> >> gotten
> >> enough milk to make some cheese and ice cream.  Once I wean the kids I
> >> will
> >> make a lot more cheese.
> >>
> >> If any of you have goat questions please ask, I will answer to the best
> >> of
> >> my
> >> ability.
> >>
> >> Nella
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
> >>
> >>> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >>> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >>> gardens.
> >>> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all
> >>> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >>>
> >>> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >>> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >>> Good luck!
> >>> Fred
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> Ag-eq:
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 8
> >> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:23:27 -0400
> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> Message-ID: <32838A9B936745179093C880F0A093E9 at ISC.local>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Oh thank you all for all the advice.  I am so glad I am on this list now.
> >>
> >> What is a permaculturalist?
> >>
> >> We will be living about 2 miles from two convenience stores but about 12
> >> miles from Sebring which is a nice sized town with lots of stores.  I
> >> will
> >> be shopping with my husband Tom.  Transportation there is non existant
> >> but
> >> the same is true for where I live now.  Then there is the hhorse I will
> >> ride
> >> to the conventience stores.  <GRIN>
> >>
> >> JODY
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 9
> >> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:37:47 -0600
> >> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> Message-ID: <002b01cd134a$70d223e0$72341b3f at SuesComputer>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> >> reply-type=original
> >>
> >> LOL, the brown/white egg debate will go on until there are no chickens on
> >> earth.  Personally, the only difference I can tell is between store
> >> baught
> >> and farm raised.  Give me farm raised any day!
> >>
> >> Susan
> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:59 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Susan,
> >>>
> >>> Oh thank you.  That is exactly the kind of advice I need.  No, brown or
> >>> white doesn't matter to me.  It is funny, in New York the white are more
> >>> expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
> >>> brown
> >>> ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
> >>>
> >>> JODY
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Ag-eq mailing list
> >>> Ag-eq at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/ag-eq_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >>> Ag-eq:
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 10
> >> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:56:22 -0600
> >> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: [Ag-eq] Gardening for your chickens
> >> Message-ID: <005001cd134d$08ed9590$72341b3f at SuesComputer>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> >> reply-type=response
> >>
> >> Don't forget to feed some of your garden to your future chickens.  I have
> >> not found one vegetable, fruit or natural organic material that my hens
> >> won't eat with gusto.  Also, they will go after any small living creature
> >> that doesn't out run them.  Bugs, crickets, grasshoppers, mice, frogs,
> >> lizards and snakes.  We laugh about the hens in coop 2 that are Bard
> >> Rocks
> >> and Buff Orphingtons that do not have a rooster.  They are a bit pushy
> >> without a rooster, so they can get a bit impatient at feeding time.  My
> >> husband tells me to never fall down in the run before I feed them or I
> >> just
> >> might find myself on their dinner minue!
> >>
> >> Susan
> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:08 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >>
> >>
> >>> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >>> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >>> gardens.
> >>> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all goes
> >>> well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >>>
> >>> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >>> keep
> >>> squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >>> Good luck!
> >>> Fred
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Ag-eq mailing list
> >>> Ag-eq at nfbnet.org
> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/ag-eq_nfbnet.org
> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> >>> Ag-eq:
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> End of Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
> >> ************************************
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:45:14 -0700
> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] baby goats
> > Message-ID: <1333647914.4f7dda2a51bdc at webmail.extremezone.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Susan:
> >
> > the Toggenbergs are very nice goats; I have 2 my old nanny and her son.
> > Jellybean is very old now and not in good health.  I don't think she will
> > be
> > with us much longer, but she has had a good long life.  Her son is 8 and
> > doing
> > very well.
> >
> > I will start weaning the kids at 6 to 7 weeks.  I know there will be lots
> > of
> > crying.  They are just starting to eat hay and goat feed.  I can't believe
> > how
> > fast they are growing.  I think they will get bigger than Lollipop, who is
> > their mother.  The buck that I bred her to was quite large.
> >
> > I'll let you know about the weaning process.
> >
> > Nella
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
> >
> >> Oh how cute Nella!  If all goes well this year, we will get our first doe
> >> in
> >> November and she will already have been seasoned.  She would then kid in
> >> February or March.  I still want the doe to be a
> >> Toggenburg like Homer my wheither is.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> When will you start weening the babies from their mama?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Susan
> >>
> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:42 PM
> >> Subject: [Ag-eq] baby goats
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Hi, I just wanted to tell every one about my baby goats.  I think I
> >> > mentioned in
> >> > an earlier post that one of my doe goats was due in mid March.  Well
> >> > they
> >> > arrived right on time; they were born March 11.  She had healthy twin
> >> > girls!
> >> >
> >> > The kids are Nubians, so they have long hound dog ears.  I just can't
> >> > get
> >> > over
> >> > how cute and fun they are.  They are very curious and into everything.
> >> > They
> >> > act a lot like puppies, they run, jump, play and even chew on things.
> >> > They
> >> > have just started nibbling on the hay and grain.
> >> >
> >> > They are growing like weeds; they're probably twice their birth size.
> >> > They're
> >> > using most of the milk, we are getting very little for our use.  She's
> >> > producing a lot, so once I wean the kids there will be plenty.  I've
> >> > gotten
> >> > enough milk to make some cheese and ice cream.  Once I wean the kids I
> >> > will
> >> > make a lot more cheese.
> >> >
> >> > If any of you have goat questions please ask, I will answer to the best
> >> > of
> >> > my
> >> > ability.
> >> >
> >> > Nella
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
> >> >
> >> >> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >> >> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >> >> gardens.
> >> >> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all
> >> >> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >> >>
> >> >> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >> >> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >> >> Good luck!
> >> >> Fred
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:52:29 -0700
> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Gardening for your chickens
> > Message-ID: <1333648349.4f7ddbdd16551 at webmail.extremezone.com>
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> >
> > Susan:
> >
> > My chickens will not eat any part of citrus fruit.  They will eat
> > everything
> > else.  The goats and mules love citrus fruit, so nothing ever goes to
> > waste.
> >
> > Most people around here including myself, have some type of citrus tree,
> > so
> > there's always lots of oranges and grape fruits available.  A couple of
> > neighbors give me fruit for the animals.  My old mule Jack loves to chase
> > grape
> > fruits around!
> >
> > Nella
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
> >
> >> Don't forget to feed some of your garden to your future chickens.  I have
> >> not found one vegetable, fruit or natural organic material that my hens
> >> won't eat with gusto.  Also, they will go after any small living creature
> >> that doesn't out run them.  Bugs, crickets, grasshoppers, mice, frogs,
> >> lizards and snakes.  We laugh about the hens in coop 2 that are Bard
> >> Rocks
> >> and Buff Orphingtons that do not have a rooster.  They are a bit pushy
> >> without a rooster, so they can get a bit impatient at feeding time.  My
> >> husband tells me to never fall down in the run before I feed them or I
> >> just
> >> might find myself on their dinner minue!
> >>
> >> Susan
> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:08 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >>
> >>
> >> > Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >> > I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >> > gardens.
> >> > If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all goes
> >> > well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >> >
> >> > I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >> > keep
> >> > squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >> > Good luck!
> >> > Fred
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:56:45 -0700
> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
> > Message-ID: <1333648605.4f7ddcdd4f72b at webmail.extremezone.com>
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> >
> >
> > Kendra:
> >
> > Thanks for all the good information.
> >
> > I don't know if I want as much rain as you get!  I think I'm probably
> > stuck in
> > Arizona, I don't see Mike moving anywhere.
> >
> > Nella
> >
> > Quoting Kendra Schaber <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>:
> >
> >> Hi all, permiculture is a portmentoe on horticulture and perminent. A
> >> permiculturists is someone who practices permiculture in their gardens.
> >> Permiculture itself is the practice in gardening of growing edable plants
> >> next to flowers that are compatable with each other and also benifit each
> >> other in some way also in the smallest space that each plant can grow in
> >> without getting root bound or cramped in any way, shape or form. There
> >> are
> >> many resources on the internet for ideas. Google is a good place to
> >> start. I
> >> do most of my plant research through Google searches. There is
> >> Horticulture
> >> Magazine and a whole section of gardening books on BARD, Better Home and
> >> Gardens on Newsline, gardening books on Learning Alley and I'm sure that
> >> there are more gardening books elsewhere on the accessable format book
> >> market for ideas. There is one book that isn't anywhere on the accessable
> >> format book market that is a really good resource for gardeners is called
> >> The Western Book of Gardening, the 2006 addition by Sunset Publishing. I
> >> have hunted for that book for at least a month last year but had no luck.
> >> I
> >> needed it because it was required for my education at Sunnyside Organics
> >> which is the place that I currently work at. I looked at the resources
> >> that
> >> I had and had a friend look for it it the resources that she had and I
> >> even
> >> contacted the publisher who sent me back to the NLS who I checked with on
> >> all levels twice before but not a corner of that book was found anywhere
> >> on
> >> the accessable format book market. I have to borrow a pair of eyes if I
> >> wish
> >> to get information from that particular book. When I am at home, I use
> >> the
> >> internet, the two magazines that I listed above or other books to gain
> >> simular information. As for wishis about rain, I live in Oregon which
> >> gets a
> >> lot of rain during the fall, winter and spring. If you wish to get more
> >> rain, how about looking to the northwest to live in? Most Oregonians get
> >> sick and tired of the rain.
> >> Kendra Schaber
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <ag-eq-request at nfbnet.org>
> >> To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:00 AM
> >> Subject: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
> >>
> >>
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Today's Topics:
> >> >
> >> >   1. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Kendra Schaber)
> >> >   2. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >> >   3. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >> >   4. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Fred's ol' XP)
> >> >   5. Re: Dream come true (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >> >   6. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >> >   7. baby goats (nfoster at extremezone.com)
> >> >   8. Re: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1 (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
> >> >   9. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
> >> >  10. Gardening for your chickens (Susan Roe)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 1
> >> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:11:50 -0700
> >> > From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
> >> > To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> > Message-ID: <3661C3C9FF79497F9C49A96FE6551694 at your90477e8f53>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >> > reply-type=original
> >> >
> >> > Hi JODY, congradulationce! You are planning on growing beans, corn and
> >> > water
> >> > mellon? I know that the Native Americans grew beans, corn and squash
> >> > together in kind of like try-pods because one provided shelter to the
> >> > others
> >> > but they each gave the other plants within that try-pod something that
> >> > each
> >> > could benifit from. If you checked out permiculture, then you will find
> >> > other plants that grow best together with the smallest amount of space
> >> > so
> >> > that way, you can have even more plants on your garden space.
> >> > Kendra Schaber
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: <ag-eq-request at nfbnet.org>
> >> > To: <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:00 AM
> >> > Subject: Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Send Ag-eq mailing list submissions to
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> >> >> than "Re: Contents of Ag-eq digest..."
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Today's Topics:
> >> >>
> >> >>   1. Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
> >> >>   2. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
> >> >>   3. Re: Dream come true (Fred's ol' XP)
> >> >>   4. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
> >> >>   5. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
> >> >>   6. Re: Dream come true (Susan Roe)
> >> >>   7. Re: Dream come true (Jody W. Ianuzzi)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 1
> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:04:15 -0400
> >> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Subject: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >> Message-ID: <6DEB0A5A25184AB6AEDC4A2C35CE0BFF at ISC.local>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> we are moving to the country!  Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving
> >> >> to a
> >> >> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
> >> >> chicken
> >> >> coop.  It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds redundant.
> >> >> hahahahaha
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I am so excited I am bursting.  The whole property is fenced in so the
> >> >> dogs
> >> >> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
> >> >> horses
> >> >> too!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> JODY
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 2
> >> >> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 13:20:47 -0600
> >> >> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> >> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >> Message-ID: <002401cd11ce$e16c03a0$48301b3f at SuesComputer>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> >> >> reply-type=original
> >> >>
> >> >> Jody,
> >> >> How wonderful for you!  I feel almost excited as you do and here is to
> >> >> hoping you can make a few of those dreams come true!  LOL
> >> >>
> >> >> Susan
> >> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:04 PM
> >> >> Subject: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> we are moving to the country!  Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> a
> >> >>> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
> >> >>> chicken
> >> >>> coop.  It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds
> >> >>> redundant.
> >> >>> hahahahaha
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am so excited I am bursting.  The whole property is fenced in so
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> dogs
> >> >>> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
> >> >>> horses
> >> >>> too!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> JODY
> >> >>>
> >> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 3
> >> >> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 12:34:27 -0700
> >> >> From: Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> >> >> To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >> Message-ID: <E1SF9W2-0002zR-LQ at elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> >> >>
> >> >> Ya,
> >> >> Sounds wonderful!
> >> >> How is transportation in that area?
> >> >> You'll get lots of rain, right?
> >> >> What do you hope to grow?
> >> >>
> >> >> Fred Chambers
> >> >> Carlsbad, CA
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 4
> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:19:25 -0400
> >> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >> Message-ID: <52FF317BA0404E0C8880B67184386897 at ISC.local>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello susan,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you so much.  You will have to teach me all about chickens and
> >> >> horses.
> >> >> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a
> >> >> farm
> >> >> says
> >> >> it isn't finished.  What does a coop include?
> >> >>
> >> >> JODY
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 5
> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 16:20:39 -0400
> >> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >> Message-ID: <4E47E3D0EE3240D2B3552133D648620C at ISC.local>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Fred,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you.  We will be in central Florida so we can grow all year
> >> >> except
> >> >> the
> >> >> middle of the summer when it is too hot.  I was thinking corn, lots of
> >> >> different kinds of beans and water melon.
> >> >>
> >> >> JODY
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 6
> >> >> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:26:11 -0600
> >> >> From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> >> >> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >> Message-ID: <003301cd11e8$c79c0c30$48301b3f at SuesComputer>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> >> >> reply-type=original
> >> >>
> >> >> I will be more than happy to talk to you till the cows come home about
> >> >> chickens!  Inside the coop you will need some sort of nest boxes and a
> >> >> few
> >> >> pirches because there will be a few hens and a rooster if you get one,
> >> >> that
> >> >> will prefer to pirch at night instead of occupying a nest box.  We
> >> >> have
> >> >> one
> >> >> or two windows in each coop for light and air circulation with heavy
> >> >> gage
> >> >> screen over them.  I have 3 coops that ar 5 by 12 feet and 6 feet high
> >> >> inside.  Each coop has a fenced in run attached to the front that is
> >> >> 12
> >> >> foot
> >> >> squared with chicken wire fencing all around and over the top.  There
> >> >> are
> >> >> way too many hunting dogs that pass through our 60 acres and a healthy
> >> >> farel
> >> >> cat population that has been here for about 50 years.
> >> >>
> >> >> Check out your coop and let me know what it looks like.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does it matter to you if you have brown or white eggs?  It doesn't to
> >> >> me,
> >> >> however, my husband and customers only want brown, so needless to say,
> >> >> all
> >> >> of my 3 breeds are brown egg layers.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am hoping to get another 20 hens by the end of the month.  I really
> >> >> want
> >> >> to get Red Stars or Rhode Island Reds, but the further April gets the
> >> >> less
> >> >> choice I may have.  I will probably end up with a mixed hen
> >> >> assortment,
> >> >> but
> >> >> as long as they lay large brown eggs I can't complain too much.
> >> >>
> >> >> Susan
> >> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:19 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hello susan,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thank you so much.  You will have to teach me all about chickens and
> >> >>> horses.
> >> >>> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a
> >> >>> farm
> >> >>> says
> >> >>> it isn't finished.  What does a coop include?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> JODY
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 7
> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 19:59:02 -0400
> >> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >> Message-ID: <848BEEBA779445659DF4BC4F996F85F5 at ISC.local>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Susan,
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh thank you.  That is exactly the kind of advice I need.  No, brown
> >> >> or
> >> >> white doesn't matter to me.  It is funny, in New York the white are
> >> >> more
> >> >> expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
> >> >> brown
> >> >> ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
> >> >>
> >> >> JODY
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
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> >> >> End of Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> >> ************************************
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 2
> >> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:58:26 -0700
> >> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> > Message-ID: <1333569506.4f7ca7e2bacb2 at webmail.extremezone.com>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >> >
> >> > Jody:
> >> >
> >> > I don't know what your temperatures are there, but my biggest concern
> >> > is
> >> > shade
> >> > and air circulation.  I know Florida can get very hot and it is a lot
> >> > more
> >> > humid than Arizona.
> >> >
> >> > I keep my chickens in a 15 by 30 chain link run, with bird netting
> >> > across
> >> > the
> >> > top.  There's a tree on the outside that gives shade and I have 2 A
> >> > frame
> >> > structures that are open on the ends; these have pirches half way up.
> >> > I
> >> > often
> >> > find the hens just pirching on top of them.  I also have a hen coop
> >> > that
> >> > looks
> >> > like a barn, it's 4 by 4; this is where I keep the nest boxes.  There
> >> > are
> >> > also
> >> > pirches in there, but I never see them on them.  This structure is
> >> > about 3
> >> > feet
> >> > off the ground and the hens like getting under it when it's really hot.
> >> > There
> >> > are doors on each side of the top part, so I can easily clean it.
> >> > There
> >> > are
> >> > also some vents along the edge of the roof for air flow.  The only time
> >> > I
> >> > find
> >> > the girls roosting in the fancy barn coop is on the few cold nights
> >> > that
> >> > we
> >> > have!
> >> >
> >> > I tried to choose lighter bodied hens since I think they handle the
> >> > heat
> >> > better.
> >> > I have 3 barred rocks and 3 cinnomon queens; they are a little smaller
> >> > than
> >> > Road Island Reds.  These breeds lay brown eggs.  All of mine are quite
> >> > docile
> >> > and seem to have no nesting instincts; this makes gathering the eggs
> >> > easy!
> >> >
> >> > Please keep us posted on your progress and feel free to ask questions.
> >> > I
> >> > learned much of what I know from Susan, so she's probably a better
> >> > resource!
> >> > There is a very good discussion forum at www.backyardchickens.com
> >> >
> >> > Good luck.
> >> >
> >> > Nella
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
> >> >
> >> >> I will be more than happy to talk to you till the cows come home about
> >> >> chickens!  Inside the coop you will need some sort of nest boxes and a
> >> >> few
> >> >> pirches because there will be a few hens and a rooster if you get one,
> >> >> that
> >> >> will prefer to pirch at night instead of occupying a nest box.  We
> >> >> have
> >> >> one
> >> >> or two windows in each coop for light and air circulation with heavy
> >> >> gage
> >> >> screen over them.  I have 3 coops that ar 5 by 12 feet and 6 feet high
> >> >> inside.  Each coop has a fenced in run attached to the front that is
> >> >> 12
> >> >> foot
> >> >> squared with chicken wire fencing all around and over the top.  There
> >> >> are
> >> >> way too many hunting dogs that pass through our 60 acres and a healthy
> >> >> farel
> >> >> cat population that has been here for about 50 years.
> >> >>
> >> >> Check out your coop and let me know what it looks like.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does it matter to you if you have brown or white eggs?  It doesn't to
> >> >> me,
> >> >> however, my husband and customers only want brown, so needless to say,
> >> >> all
> >> >> of my 3 breeds are brown egg layers.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am hoping to get another 20 hens by the end of the month.  I really
> >> >> want
> >> >> to get Red Stars or Rhode Island Reds, but the further April gets the
> >> >> less
> >> >> choice I may have.  I will probably end up with a mixed hen
> >> >> assortment,
> >> >> but
> >> >> as long as they lay large brown eggs I can't complain too much.
> >> >>
> >> >> Susan
> >> >> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> >> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:19 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hello susan,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thank you so much.  You will have to teach me all about chickens and
> >> >> > horses.
> >> >> > There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a
> >> >> > farm
> >> >> > says
> >> >> > it isn't finished.  What does a coop include?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > JODY
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 3
> >> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:03:00 -0700
> >> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> > Message-ID: <1333569780.4f7ca8f48fe03 at webmail.extremezone.com>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >> >
> >> > Jody:
> >> >
> >> > I'll be happy to answer any questions I can.  I have some experience
> >> > with
> >> > chickens, gardening and quite a lot of horse experience.  I grew up on
> >> > a
> >> > farm,
> >> > so know a little about cows and other farm topics.
> >> >
> >> > You're are going to have so much fun putting your little farm together!
> >> >
> >> > Nella
> >> >
> >> > Quoting "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello susan,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you so much.  You will have to teach me all about chickens and
> >> >> horses.
> >> >> There is a chicken coop there but my mother inlaw who grew up on a
> >> >> farm
> >> >> says
> >> >> it isn't finished.  What does a coop include?
> >> >>
> >> >> JODY
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 4
> >> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:08:47 -0700
> >> > From: Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> >> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> > Message-ID: <E1SFWVi-0005OL-1G at elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> >> >
> >> > Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >> > I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >> > gardens.
> >> > If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all
> >> > goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >> >
> >> > I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >> > keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >> > Good luck!
> >> > Fred
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 5
> >> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:18:00 -0700
> >> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> > Message-ID: <1333570680.4f7cac78eb25b at webmail.extremezone.com>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >> >
> >> > Jody:
> >> >
> >> > I'm so jealous; you're so lucky!!!
> >> >
> >> > I know you must be very, very excited.  Please tell us more about it
> >> > and
> >> > how it
> >> > all happened.
> >> >
> >> > Do you have stalls and a barn?
> >> >
> >> > Will you be close to where you are now?
> >> >
> >> > How far will you be from town and what kind of transportation is
> >> > available.
> >> >
> >> > I wish I could live some where with rain, not in the middle of the
> >> > desert.
> >> > A
> >> > ponbd, I've almost forgotten what a body of water looks like!  I would
> >> > love for
> >> > my goats, mules and horse to be able to graze; they are stuck on a dry
> >> > lot
> >> > eating a fortune in hay!  Actually I really like my little house and
> >> > horse
> >> > property.  I was lucky to find something that was affordable and in
> >> > city
> >> > limits.  I even have bus access and can walk to some things.  My
> >> > neighborhood
> >> > is very friendly and there are even people to ride with.  I'll be happy
> >> > where I
> >> > am until the timing is right for me to move to the country.
> >> >
> >> > I can't wait to hear more about your farm and farming adventures.
> >> >
> >> > Congratulations!!!
> >> >
> >> > Nella
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Quoting "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> we are moving to the country!  Hopefully on the 26 we will be moving
> >> >> to a
> >> >> place out in the country with 4.75 acres a barn with round pen and
> >> >> chicken
> >> >> coop.  It is located in Lorida Florida. Yeah I know, sounds redundant.
> >> >> hahahahaha
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I am so excited I am bursting.  The whole property is fenced in so the
> >> >> dogs
> >> >> will feel like they died and went to puppy heaven.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I can have a huge garden, chickens, ducks, yes there is a pond and
> >> >> horses
> >> >> too!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> JODY
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 6
> >> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:26:17 -0700
> >> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> > Message-ID: <1333571177.4f7cae697cb2b at webmail.extremezone.com>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Fred:
> >> >
> >> > Can you please tell us more about permaculture?
> >> >
> >> > Also can you recommend some good books or websites for me to read?
> >> >
> >> > My goal is to grow more of my food in a rather small place, so I'm
> >> > trying
> >> > to
> >> > learn as much as possible.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > Nella
> >> >
> >> > Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
> >> >
> >> >> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >> >> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >> >> gardens.
> >> >> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all
> >> >> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >> >>
> >> >> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >> >> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >> >> Good luck!
> >> >> Fred
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 7
> >> > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:42:10 -0700
> >> > From: nfoster at extremezone.com
> >> > To: Agricultural and Equestrean Division List <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Subject: [Ag-eq] baby goats
> >> > Message-ID: <1333572130.4f7cb22285283 at webmail.extremezone.com>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi, I just wanted to tell every one about my baby goats.  I think I
> >> > mentioned in
> >> > an earlier post that one of my doe goats was due in mid March.  Well
> >> > they
> >> > arrived right on time; they were born March 11.  She had healthy twin
> >> > girls!
> >> >
> >> > The kids are Nubians, so they have long hound dog ears.  I just can't
> >> > get
> >> > over
> >> > how cute and fun they are.  They are very curious and into everything.
> >> > They
> >> > act a lot like puppies, they run, jump, play and even chew on things.
> >> > They
> >> > have just started nibbling on the hay and grain.
> >> >
> >> > They are growing like weeds; they're probably twice their birth size.
> >> > They're
> >> > using most of the milk, we are getting very little for our use.  She's
> >> > producing a lot, so once I wean the kids there will be plenty.  I've
> >> > gotten
> >> > enough milk to make some cheese and ice cream.  Once I wean the kids I
> >> > will
> >> > make a lot more cheese.
> >> >
> >> > If any of you have goat questions please ask, I will answer to the best
> >> > of
> >> > my
> >> > ability.
> >> >
> >> > Nella
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Quoting Fred's ol' XP <regenerative at earthlink.net>:
> >> >
> >> >> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >> >> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >> >> gardens.
> >> >> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all
> >> >> goes well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >> >>
> >> >> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >> >> keep squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >> >> Good luck!
> >> >> Fred
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 8
> >> > Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:23:27 -0400
> >> > From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> > To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> > Message-ID: <32838A9B936745179093C880F0A093E9 at ISC.local>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >> >
> >> > Hello all,
> >> >
> >> > Oh thank you all for all the advice.  I am so glad I am on this list
> >> > now.
> >> >
> >> > What is a permaculturalist?
> >> >
> >> > We will be living about 2 miles from two convenience stores but about
> >> > 12
> >> > miles from Sebring which is a nice sized town with lots of stores.  I
> >> > will
> >> > be shopping with my husband Tom.  Transportation there is non existant
> >> > but
> >> > the same is true for where I live now.  Then there is the hhorse I will
> >> > ride
> >> > to the conventience stores.  <GRIN>
> >> >
> >> > JODY
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 9
> >> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:37:47 -0600
> >> > From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> >> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> > Message-ID: <002b01cd134a$70d223e0$72341b3f at SuesComputer>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> >> > reply-type=original
> >> >
> >> > LOL, the brown/white egg debate will go on until there are no chickens
> >> > on
> >> > earth.  Personally, the only difference I can tell is between store
> >> > baught
> >> > and farm raised.  Give me farm raised any day!
> >> >
> >> > Susan
> >> > dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >> > To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:59 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Susan,
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh thank you.  That is exactly the kind of advice I need.  No, brown
> >> >> or
> >> >> white doesn't matter to me.  It is funny, in New York the white are
> >> >> more
> >> >> expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
> >> >> brown
> >> >> ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
> >> >>
> >> >> JODY
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Message: 10
> >> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:56:22 -0600
> >> > From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> >> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Subject: [Ag-eq] Gardening for your chickens
> >> > Message-ID: <005001cd134d$08ed9590$72341b3f at SuesComputer>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> >> > reply-type=response
> >> >
> >> > Don't forget to feed some of your garden to your future chickens.  I
> >> > have
> >> > not found one vegetable, fruit or natural organic material that my hens
> >> > won't eat with gusto.  Also, they will go after any small living
> >> > creature
> >> > that doesn't out run them.  Bugs, crickets, grasshoppers, mice, frogs,
> >> > lizards and snakes.  We laugh about the hens in coop 2 that are Bard
> >> > Rocks
> >> > and Buff Orphingtons that do not have a rooster.  They are a bit pushy
> >> > without a rooster, so they can get a bit impatient at feeding time.  My
> >> > husband tells me to never fall down in the run before I feed them or I
> >> > just
> >> > might find myself on their dinner minue!
> >> >
> >> > Susan
> >> > dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> >> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:08 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >> >> I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >> >> gardens.
> >> >> If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all goes
> >> >> well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >> >>
> >> >> I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >> >> keep
> >> >> squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >> >> Good luck!
> >> >> Fred
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Ag-eq mailing list
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > End of Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 2
> >> > ************************************
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:49:06 -0600
> > From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: [Ag-eq] Straight from the Home Coop, with recipes
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> > New York Times
> > Straight From the Home Coop. By JULIA MOSKIN.
> > FOR newly hatched chicken enthusiasts, the first egg from your own hens is
> > a small miracle. You want to dip
> > it in gold,' said the writer Susan Orlean, who keeps nine hens at her home
> > in Columbia County, N.Y. Then comes the second egg: enough for a
> > triumphant
> > breakfast. But when the whole coop starts laying, she said, the supply of
> > eggs quickly turns into an 'I Love Lucy'-style conveyor belt scene,
> > bringing
> > absurd, unmanageable excess. Ms. Orlean scrambles them into a pile for
> > brunch or dinner, sprinkled with Indian spices, slivered almonds and
> > unsweetened
> > coconut. People will eat three and four eggs at a time that way, without
> > blinking,' she said. It's not unusual for food lovers to toy with the
> > notion of
> > adding chickens to a thriving garden or building a rooftop coop. Now the
> > novelty has become reality: despite coyotes, foxes and the occasional
> > cage-break,
> > many urbanites and suburbanites are raising their own eggs. And many small
> > farmers who supply restaurants with produce have been expanding into
> > poultry,
> > making farm eggs ubiquitous on restaurant menus. The eggs that were once
> > scrubbed from the standard American breakfast over concerns about
> > cholesterol
> > have made a triumphant return as high-end appetizers, served atop anything
> > and everything. At the North End Grill, an ambitious new restaurant in
> > Battery
> > Park City, eggs rate their own section on the dinner menu. There are no
> > hard numbers on how many people keep chickens, but hatcheries report a
> > boom in
> > business in the last five years. The recession has helped, the local food
> > movement has helped and the green movement has helped,' said Paul
> > Bradshaw, the
> > owner of Greenfire Farms in Havana, Fla., who specializes in rare breeds
> > like Swedish flower and French Marans, which lay lustrous chocolate-brown
> > eggs
> > that the writer Ian Fleming designated as the preferred breakfast of James
> > Bond. Martha Stewart made chickens fashionable in the 1990s, showcasing
> > pale
> > blue and green eggs from her South American Araucanas in her magazine.
> > Although egg color does not affect taste, it is an attraction; among Mr.
> > Bradshaw's
> > most desirable hens are British cream legbars, which lay bright, smooth
> > blue eggs that sell in London's chic food markets for 1 euro each, or
> > about $1.30.
> > (A female legbar chick costs $99, compared with about $2 for a standard
> > leghorn.) Internet commerce has made it easy to order hatching eggs and
> > day-old
> > chicks; Web sites, like those of Greenfire Farms and Murray McMurray
> > Hatchery in Iowa, have live video and gorgeous photos of birds, plumage
> > and vividly
> > colored eggs. It's my new J. Crew catalog,' said Jana Martin, a writer who
> > lives outside Woodstock, N.Y., and started raising Buff Orpington hens
> > last
> > year. Keeping chickens is legal in many cities and has taken off as part
> > of the urban farming movement. JustFood, a nonprofit group that encourages
> > sustainable
> > and local agriculture, has an educational program called City Chicken,
> > which teaches the basics to New Yorkers: since 2007, the classes have
> > routinely
> > filled up and the schedule is constantly expanding. In the spring, you can
> > watch the color of the yolks deepen from week to week, and the taste
> > changes,
> > too,' said Cathy Erway, a graduate of the program who keeps hens on a
> > rooftop in Red Hook, Brooklyn. (For those who want to keep hens inside an
> > apartment,
> > Mr. Bradshaw recommends the Olandsk dwarf hen, about the size of a
> > grapefruit, which lays eggs that fry up to the size of a silver-dollar
> > pancake.) In
> > the last month, backyard chickens across the country have begun laying
> > again. Left to their own rhythms, hens slow down or stop laying eggs
> > altogether
> > in the winter, because their reproductive cycle is linked to daylight. For
> > centuries, the simultaneous return of eggs and the sun was seen as a
> > quasi-magical
> > coincidence; it is no wonder eggs are central to ancient spring
> > celebrations like Easter, Passover and Nowruz, the Persian New Year, which
> > begins on the
> > spring equinox. At this time of year, the difficulty becomes not so much
> > keeping the hens, but keeping up with them. In high season, a good layer
> > like
> > a Rhode Island red or leghorn can lay an egg every day. Ms. Erway uses up
> > the eggs by making lunch for the staff at Sixpoint Brewery, where she
> > works.
> > I put sliced hard-boiled eggs in banh mi,' she said, referring to the
> > French-Vietnamese baguette sandwiches, stuffed with pickled vegetables and
> > red chile
> > sauce. And I'm Chinese-American, so it's second nature for me to add an
> > egg or two if I'm stir-frying rice or noodles. You have to get creative,'
> > said
> > Ian Knauer, a food writer who had 18 laying hens last year on his family's
> > farm in Pennsylvania. For Mr. Knauer, who lives alone in Brooklyn and
> > tends
> > the farm on weekends with his family, that meant almost eight dozen eggs a
> > week. When they start piling up, I get out the big jar,' he said. Beets
> > and
> > eggs, pickled together in a hot-pink brine, are a standard Pennsylvania
> > Dutch recipe Mr. Knauer has adapted into a watercress and egg salad, using
> > a spoonful
> > of shallot-scented brine in the vinaigrette. In a new book, 'The Farm,' he
> > chronicles a year of cooking with mostly farm-grown ingredients, including
> > a
> > simple dinner of soft-boiled eggs with peppery greens, ricotta and black
> > walnuts from trees around the farmhouse. The Knauers have farmed in
> > Knauertown
> > since the 18th century and, like most farmers, have always kept a flock of
> > chickens. But from the 1920s to the 1950s, egg farming became specialized.
> > Electric
> > lighting meant that lights could be kept on day and night, so hens never
> > stopped laying; refrigeration meant that eggs could be kept fresh for
> > weeks and
> > transported around the country. By the 1970s, eggs had become a standard
> > supermarket item with no particular season, region or source attached.
> > Enter the
> > real-food revolution, and the notion that raising your own food brought
> > ethical, nutritional and culinary advantages. Knowing you can raise your
> > own eggs
> > quite easily makes factory farms seem even more unnecessary,' Ms. Martin
> > said. For cooks like her, eggs are particularly helpful in the effort to
> > nudge
> > meat away from the center of the plate. This is the time of year when I
> > start looking through old cookbooks to see what the farm wives would do,'
> > said
> > Kristin Hernandez, who keeps a dozen hens in her backyard in Austin, Tex.
> > Her roommates are all vegetarian or vegan, she said, but even the vegans
> > eat
> > the house-raised eggs because they know that the birds are healthy and
> > well cared for. They are like pets who happen to bring us breakfast,' she
> > said.
> > Although organic and free-range eggs are now widely available, they do not
> > always taste different from the standard commercial product; home-raised
> > eggs
> > have noticeably better flavor and texture. The yolks of eggs from
> > well-fed, well-exercised hens are as orange-yellow as a New York taxi.
> > They have what
> > Mr. Bradshaw calls 'muscle tone': thick walls and a rich, intense taste.
> > The whites are never runny, and they stand up immediately when you whip
> > them,'
> > Ms. Martin said. Even plain scrambled eggs are different: they have a
> > sweetness, a freshness and a richness to them. Then there is the question
> > of age.
> > Eggs can be sold commercially for up to 45 days after they are packed, so
> > long as they are kept refrigerated, according to Agriculture Department
> > regulations.
> > (Eggs keep well until washed for market, because they have a natural
> > coating that is sterile and waterproof.) But those who raise chickens say
> > that the
> > flavor -- with nuances of grass, earth, nuts and of course, chicken -- is
> > at its peak when the egg is first laid, before it is refrigerated.
> > Jennifer Trainer
> > Thompson, who works at the Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art, has
> > just published 'The Fresh Egg Cookbook,' an outgrowth of keeping a dozen
> > hens
> > at her home in Williamstown. I wasn't thinking of the culinary
> > opportunities at first,' she said. She saw the chickens more as an outdoor
> > activity and
> > teaching tool for her kids. But as the eggs mounted up, she began trolling
> > through cookbooks and consulting family and friends for recipes using
> > multiple
> > eggs. An ideal post-Easter recipe, from her Midwestern mother-in-law, is a
> > breakfast casserole that calls for 18 hard-boiled eggs, baked with cheese
> > sauce
> > and topped with crumbled bacon. (For the best results when peeling
> > hard-boiled eggs, start with eggs that are not freshly laid, but have been
> > refrigerated
> > for a week or more.) Her Mediterranean take on a weeknight dinner is
> > poached eggs, served over thick yogurt with toasted pita bread and a
> > trickle of hot,
> > herb-infused butter. For Joe Dizney, a Web designer in the Hudson Valley,
> > living with a flock of Australorp hens has left a different imprint. He'll
> > break
> > an egg into simmering beef stews and bean soups, fry a couple in butter to
> > top sauteed spring greens like the red-veined sorrel he bought at a recent
> > farmers'
> > market, and coddle them to serve with the wild mushrooms he gathers in the
> > woods near his house. 'Put an egg on it,' ' he said. That's become my
> > mantra.
> > Recipe: Poached Eggs With Mint and Yogurt Adapted from 'The Fresh Egg
> > Cookbook' by Jennifer Trainer Thompson (Storey Publishing) Time: About 1
> > hour 1 cup
> > plain Greek yogurt, 2 percent milk fat or whole 1 small garlic clove,
> > finely minced Salt and freshly ground black pepper 4 tablespoons butter 6
> > fresh mint
> > leaves 1/2 teaspoon smoked paprika 1/2 teaspoon hot red-pepper flakes 1
> > tablespoon white vinegar 8 eggs Toasted pita bread or another flatbread,
> > for serving.
> > 1. In a small bowl, stir the yogurt and garlic together. Season to taste
> > with salt and pepper and set aside for 30 minutes to 1 hour. 2. When ready
> > to
> > cook, use a large spoon to divide the yogurt on four serving plates,
> > making large dollops. Use the back of a spoon to spread each dollop into a
> > large oval,
> > big enough to hold two eggs. 3. In a saucepan, melt the butter over medium
> > heat until it foams. Add mint, paprika and red pepper flakes and stir
> > until
> > fragrant. Turn off the heat and keep warm. 4. In a large, deep skillet,
> > combine two inches of water and the vinegar. Bring to a simmer. Crack the
> > eggs
> > gently into the water. Simmer until softly cooked, about 3 minutes. Using
> > a slotted spoon, lift eggs out one at a time, holding a paper towel under
> > the
> > spoon to avoid dripping water onto the yogurt. Place two eggs on each
> > plateful of yogurt. Remove mint leaves from the warm spiced butter, then
> > use a spoon
> > to drizzle butter over the eggs. Grind black pepper onto each egg, and
> > serve immediately with hot toasted pita bread. Yield: 4 servings Recipe:
> > Lemon Pudding
> > Cake Adapted from 'The Farm,' by Ian Knauer (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt)
> > Time: 1 hour 4 large eggs, separated 1 teaspoon finely grated lemon zest
> > 1/3 cup
> > lemon juice 1 tablespoon unsalted butter, melted 1 cup sugar 1/2 cup
> > all-purpose flour 1/2 teaspoon kosher salt 1 1/2 cups whole milk. 1. Place
> > a large
> > roasting pan on a rack in the center of the oven. Fill the pan halfway
> > with water. With the pan inside, heat the oven to 350 degrees. Butter an
> > 8-inch
> > square or round baking dish. 2. In a large bowl, whisk together the egg
> > yolks, lemon zest, lemon juice and butter. In another bowl, stir together
> > the sugar,
> > flour and salt. Whisk half the flour mixture into the egg yolks, then half
> > the milk. Whisk in remaining flour mixture, then remaining milk. 3. Whip
> > the
> > egg whites until soft peaks form, then gently fold them into the batter.
> > 4. Pour batter into the buttered dish. Place the dish in the pan of water
> > in the
> > oven. Bake until the cake is set, about 45 minutes. Yield: 6 to 8
> > servings. Recipe: Soft-Boiled Eggs With Watercress and Walnut-Ricotta
> > Crostini 3 tablespoons
> > unsalted butter 4 slices sourdough or other chewy bread 1/2 cup walnut
> > pieces 1/2 cup fresh ricotta or farmer cheese 2 tablespoons lemon juice
> > Salt and
> > freshly ground black pepper 4 cold eggs 2 cups watercress Extra-virgin
> > olive oil or walnut oil, for serving. 1. In a large heavy skillet, melt
> > two tablespoons
> > of the butter over medium heat. Add the bread slices and toast, turning
> > occasionally, until both sides are well browned, 3 to 4 minutes. (Reduce
> > heat as
> > needed to prevent scorching.) 2. Remove the bread and add the remaining
> > tablespoon butter to the skillet. Add the walnuts and toast them,
> > stirring, until
> > lightly browned, about 3 minutes. Transfer walnuts to a food processor and
> > let cool. Add ricotta, 1 tablespoon lemon juice and 1/2 teaspoon each salt
> > and
> > pepper. Pulse just until well combined. 3. Place the eggs in a small
> > saucepan and cover with lukewarm water. (Hot water on cold eggs will crack
> > the shells.)
> > Over high heat, bring the water just to a boil. Immediately turn off the
> > heat, cover the pan and let stand for 2 minutes. Transfer the pot to the
> > sink
> > and run cold water over the eggs for about 30 seconds. Peel the eggs under
> > cold running water. 4. In a bowl, toss watercress with the remaining
> > tablespoon
> > lemon juice and salt and pepper to taste. Spread walnut ricotta evenly
> > over the toasts, then top with watercress. Place 1 egg on each toast and
> > grind pepper
> > on top. Using a small, sharp knife, gently cut each egg open to break the
> > yolk, letting it run down to dress the watercress. Drizzle with oil, if
> > using,
> > and serve. Yield: 2 servings. Recipe: MJ's Egg Casserole 4 tablespoons
> > butter, plus extra for buttering pan 1/4 cup unbleached all-purpose flour
> > 1 cup
> > cream 1 cup milk 2 cups shredded sharp Cheddar, lightly packed 1/4 cup
> > chopped fresh flat-leaf parsley 1/4 teaspoon dried marjoram 1/4 teaspoon
> > dried thyme
> > 1/8 teaspoon garlic powder Pinch cayenne 18 hard boiled eggs, peeled and
> > thinly sliced 1 pound bacon, cooked, drained of fat and crumbled Toast,
> > for serving.
> > 1. Heat the oven to 350 degrees and butter a 9-by-13-inch baking dish. 2.
> > In a saucepan, melt the butter over medium heat until it foams. Whisk in
> > the
> > flour until smooth. Lower the heat and slowly pour in the cream and milk.
> > Heat until steaming, whisking often. Add the cheese and whisk until
> > melted. Add
> > the parsley, marjoram, thyme, garlic powder and cayenne. 3. In the
> > prepared dish, make layers of egg slices, bacon and sauce, ending with
> > sauce. Cover
> > and bake 40 minutes. (To make ahead, refrigerate covered casserole
> > overnight. Remove from the refrigerator 1 hour before baking, and add 20
> > minutes to
> > baking time.) Let rest 5 to 10 minutes before serving with hot toast.
> > Yield: 8 to 10 servings. PHOTOS: NESTED: Soft-boiled eggs, with watercress
> > on crostini,
> > show off the brilliant color of yolks from well-fed hens. (PHOTOGRAPH BY
> > RACHEL BARRETT FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES)(D1); HEN FRUIT: Jennifer Trainer
> > Thompson
> > prepares thick yogurt to accompany poached eggs; Paul Bradshaw, the owner
> > of Greenfire Farms in Havana, Fla., with a Bielefelder chicken; once eggs
> > start
> > piling up, Ian Knauer pickles them in a hot-pink brine with beets. Another
> > recipe is soft-boiled eggs on crostini. (PHOTOGRAPHS BY NATHANIEL BROOKS
> > FOR
> > THE NEW YORK TIMES; MARK WALLHEISER FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES; RACHEL BARRETT
> > FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES)(D7) .
> >
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> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:38:47 -0600
> > From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
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> >
> > Why not green eggs?  Then you can have green eggs and ham!  LOL
> > I was thinking about getting a few Americanas or Aracanas just to have the
> > novelty of pastel colored eggs and putting one in each dozen carton for a
> > surprise to my customers.  I haven't talked Matt into that yet.
> >
> > Susan
> > dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >
> >
> >> Susan:
> >>
> >> I'm with you; I don't think the brown or white taste different.  I do
> >> like
> >> my
> >> howm grown eggs much better.  I'm told that the yoke of farm fresh eggs
> >> is
> >> brighter than store eggs.
> >>
> >> Have you ever had any of the chickens that lay eggs with green shells?
> >>
> >> I know it's just in my mind, but I don't want to eat green eggs!
> >>
> >> Nella
> >>
> >> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
> >>
> >>> LOL, the brown/white egg debate will go on until there are no chickens
> >>> on
> >>> earth.  Personally, the only difference I can tell is between store
> >>> baught
> >>> and farm raised.  Give me farm raised any day!
> >>>
> >>> Susan
> >>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <jody at thewhitehats.com>
> >>> To: "'Agricultural and Equestrean Division List'" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:59 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Dream come true
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Hi Susan,
> >>> >
> >>> > Oh thank you.  That is exactly the kind of advice I need.  No, brown
> >>> > or
> >>> > white doesn't matter to me.  It is funny, in New York the white are
> >>> > more
> >>> > expensive because they are consider ed better and in New Hampshire the
> >>> > brown
> >>> > ones are more expensive because they are considered more natual.
> >>> >
> >>> > JODY
> >>> >
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> > Message: 10
> > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:49:03 -0600
> > From: "Susan Roe" <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>
> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Gardening for your chickens
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> > A good treet for your hens is a head of cabbage and watermellon rines.
> > Mine
> > can strip a half of watermelon rine down to the thinnest skin in a day.
> > We
> > were told to give them a head of cabbage about once a month or so to keep
> > them from being board.  If they are not occupied, they tend to pick on the
> > weekest among themselves and will actually peck a hen to death.  They also
> > like young corn stalks about 3 feet tall.  Always give your hens corn
> > shucks, they go after them like potato chips.
> >
> > Susan
> > dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <nfoster at extremezone.com>
> > To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Gardening for your chickens
> >
> >
> >> Susan:
> >>
> >> My chickens will not eat any part of citrus fruit.  They will eat
> >> everything
> >> else.  The goats and mules love citrus fruit, so nothing ever goes to
> >> waste.
> >>
> >> Most people around here including myself, have some type of citrus tree,
> >> so
> >> there's always lots of oranges and grape fruits available.  A couple of
> >> neighbors give me fruit for the animals.  My old mule Jack loves to chase
> >> grape
> >> fruits around!
> >>
> >> Nella
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Quoting Susan Roe <dogwoodfarm at verizon.net>:
> >>
> >>> Don't forget to feed some of your garden to your future chickens.  I
> >>> have
> >>> not found one vegetable, fruit or natural organic material that my hens
> >>> won't eat with gusto.  Also, they will go after any small living
> >>> creature
> >>> that doesn't out run them.  Bugs, crickets, grasshoppers, mice, frogs,
> >>> lizards and snakes.  We laugh about the hens in coop 2 that are Bard
> >>> Rocks
> >>> and Buff Orphingtons that do not have a rooster.  They are a bit pushy
> >>> without a rooster, so they can get a bit impatient at feeding time.  My
> >>> husband tells me to never fall down in the run before I feed them or I
> >>> just
> >>> might find myself on their dinner minue!
> >>>
> >>> Susan
> >>> dogwoodfarm at verizon.net
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Fred's ol' XP" <regenerative at earthlink.net>
> >>> To: "Agricultural and Equestrean Division List" <ag-eq at nfbnet.org>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:08 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ag-eq] Ag-eq Digest, Vol 73, Issue 1
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Ya, Kendra has good advice.
> >>> > I am a Permaculturist, and incorporate a lot of verticality in my
> >>> > gardens.
> >>> > If you're feeling industrious, plant a bunch of pumpkins!  If all goes
> >>> > well, you'll sell or trade most of them in October and November.
> >>> >
> >>> > I like to grow popping corn, peanuts, and pumpkins.  If your dogs can
> >>> > keep
> >>> > squirrels from eating everything, that'll help.
> >>> > Good luck!
> >>> > Fred
> >>> >
> >>> >
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